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comment by #4zA (U22472)

posted on 8/10/24

Man Cs* simply tryna make shore they r the only ones who can selvefth finance with bogus funds via ‘sponsorships” etc

Disgustin

N makes Man Cs* even moore of a Pariah than b4

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
As it's been discussed today on radio...... surely this is anti competitive in itself. Who stands to benefit most by these associated sponsorship deals? City and Newcastle.

So it's only a problem when the odds are stacked against these nation owned clubs but now the opposite is true it's fine?

Football has made a real mess of itself hasn't it? 😂
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Was it football expert, John Bishop again on Talksport?
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It makes sense that SE85 regularly comes up with tripe like this.

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Forgot to ask Stretty how's the transition going.
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11 years; -3GD; #now14th

nearly a billion in debt.


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👍🏼
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20 times

13 times

3 times

OG Treble winners

Not the biggest cheats in English football history

Not Sports washers FC


I think we win this battle quite easily. 😂

posted on 8/10/24

Seems like I've hit a nerve

posted on 8/10/24

I see Txiki is stepping down in May. Another one conveniently jumping ship just in time for the Verdict.

Makes you wonder why Omar came to United doesn't it when he must have known his best mate was thinking of packing it all in next summer. Surely he was destined to take the reigns at City?

Everyone is leaving because nobody wants to be associated with being the biggest cheats in the game.

😂

posted on 8/10/24

comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
Seems like I've hit a nerve


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Bit of a slam dunk that though wasn't it tbf? 😉

Not a great deal you can argue there. We are just the bigger and more successful club who aren't being charged with being dirty filthy cheats.

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
As it's been discussed today on radio...... surely this is anti competitive in itself. Who stands to benefit most by these associated sponsorship deals? City and Newcastle.

So it's only a problem when the odds are stacked against these nation owned clubs but now the opposite is true it's fine?

Football has made a real mess of itself hasn't it? 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was it football expert, John Bishop again on Talksport?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

So you don't see this ruling as slightly hypocritical? The very argument they are trying to make is that it was anti competitive against smaller clubs but City and Newcastle are fine if they can take advantage of something nobody else really can do?

You do see it Boris. You just choose to ignore it. The whole thing is a massive sham just like your entire club.
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This is still making absolutely no sense! What do you think they’ve actually ruled is anti competitive and for what reason?

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It makes a lot of sense melts. It's going to make it easier for City and Newcastle to funnel in money which has absolutely nothing to do with your club to keep you at the top.

What am I missing here? City fans are absolutely buzzing with this news over the last 24 hours. It's got sweet FA to do with helping out other non elite clubs. It's because it's going to benefit them.

Or have I got that wrong?
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What’s going to help city or Newcastle? The changes they need to make to the APT rules to make them lawful won’t change anything for those clubs really.

posted on 8/10/24

Yeah, strange since Omar was one of those instrumental in the commercial side of things whilst he was at City. Wouldn't he be implicated with the 115 charges?

You don't know anything at all, do you SE85?

posted on 8/10/24

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
As it's been discussed today on radio...... surely this is anti competitive in itself. Who stands to benefit most by these associated sponsorship deals? City and Newcastle.

So it's only a problem when the odds are stacked against these nation owned clubs but now the opposite is true it's fine?

Football has made a real mess of itself hasn't it? 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was it football expert, John Bishop again on Talksport?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

So you don't see this ruling as slightly hypocritical? The very argument they are trying to make is that it was anti competitive against smaller clubs but City and Newcastle are fine if they can take advantage of something nobody else really can do?

You do see it Boris. You just choose to ignore it. The whole thing is a massive sham just like your entire club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is still making absolutely no sense! What do you think they’ve actually ruled is anti competitive and for what reason?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

It makes a lot of sense melts. It's going to make it easier for City and Newcastle to funnel in money which has absolutely nothing to do with your club to keep you at the top.

What am I missing here? City fans are absolutely buzzing with this news over the last 24 hours. It's got sweet FA to do with helping out other non elite clubs. It's because it's going to benefit them.

Or have I got that wrong?
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What’s going to help city or Newcastle? The changes they need to make to the APT rules to make them lawful won’t change anything for those clubs really.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You had 2 deals blocked didn't you that let's say were questionable at best. I imagine they will be back on the agenda now.

How is it not anti competitive to allow Nation state backed clubs to funnel in money through shady sponsorship deals. This new ruling sure sounds like that's going to be more plausible now to me.

But again you're only ever going to see this from your own clubs point of view.

posted on 8/10/24

comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeah, strange since Omar was one of those instrumental in the commercial side of things whilst he was at City. Wouldn't he be implicated with the 115 charges?

You don't know anything at all, do you SE85?
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I didn't trust him tbh. Think it's very weird the whole situation and I'd prefer someone from another club.

He's worked with Txiki for 15 years, he goes with him to City and tweets about how happy he is when United lose and now he's our CEO? Yeah I don't trust the guy one bit.

If you're found guilty and he gets his name dragged through the mud I genuinely couldn't care less if we have to get rid. I'd hope that we would.

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
As it's been discussed today on radio...... surely this is anti competitive in itself. Who stands to benefit most by these associated sponsorship deals? City and Newcastle.

So it's only a problem when the odds are stacked against these nation owned clubs but now the opposite is true it's fine?

Football has made a real mess of itself hasn't it? 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was it football expert, John Bishop again on Talksport?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It makes sense that SE85 regularly comes up with tripe like this.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Forgot to ask Stretty how's the transition going.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

11 years; -3GD; #now14th

nearly a billion in debt.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
👍🏼
----------------------------------------------------------------------

20 times

13 times

3 times

OG Treble winners

Not the biggest cheats in English football history

Not Sports washers FC


I think we win this battle quite easily. 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
United trophies after FFP was introduced:-


League Titles - 2

Champions League - 0

posted on 8/10/24

You don't half talkshite.

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
As it's been discussed today on radio...... surely this is anti competitive in itself. Who stands to benefit most by these associated sponsorship deals? City and Newcastle.

So it's only a problem when the odds are stacked against these nation owned clubs but now the opposite is true it's fine?

Football has made a real mess of itself hasn't it? 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was it football expert, John Bishop again on Talksport?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It makes sense that SE85 regularly comes up with tripe like this.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Forgot to ask Stretty how's the transition going.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

11 years; -3GD; #now14th

nearly a billion in debt.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
👍🏼
----------------------------------------------------------------------

20 times

13 times

3 times

OG Treble winners

Not the biggest cheats in English football history

Not Sports washers FC


I think we win this battle quite easily. 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
United trophies after FFP was introduced:-


League Titles - 2

Champions League - 0
----------------------------------------------------------------------

City without the Sheikh.

Middlesbrough 8 - 1 City

Playing Gillingham and Scunthorpe

Winning nothing 😂

posted on 8/10/24

comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 40 seconds ago
You don't half talkshite.
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I reckon he's actually John Bishop

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
As it's been discussed today on radio...... surely this is anti competitive in itself. Who stands to benefit most by these associated sponsorship deals? City and Newcastle.

So it's only a problem when the odds are stacked against these nation owned clubs but now the opposite is true it's fine?

Football has made a real mess of itself hasn't it? 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was it football expert, John Bishop again on Talksport?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It makes sense that SE85 regularly comes up with tripe like this.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Forgot to ask Stretty how's the transition going.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

11 years; -3GD; #now14th

nearly a billion in debt.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
👍🏼
----------------------------------------------------------------------

20 times

13 times

3 times

OG Treble winners

Not the biggest cheats in English football history

Not Sports washers FC


I think we win this battle quite easily. 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
United trophies after FFP was introduced:-


League Titles - 2

Champions League - 0
----------------------------------------------------------------------

City without the Sheikh.

Middlesbrough 8 - 1 City

Playing Gillingham and Scunthorpe

Winning nothing 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Since FFP was introduced

United 1-6 City

Liverpool 7-1 United

posted on 8/10/24

I don't know who's taken this the hardest.

Definate toss up between Stretty and Mamba.

comment by T-BAD (U11806)

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
As it's been discussed today on radio...... surely this is anti competitive in itself. Who stands to benefit most by these associated sponsorship deals? City and Newcastle.

So it's only a problem when the odds are stacked against these nation owned clubs but now the opposite is true it's fine?

Football has made a real mess of itself hasn't it? 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was it football expert, John Bishop again on Talksport?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

So you don't see this ruling as slightly hypocritical? The very argument they are trying to make is that it was anti competitive against smaller clubs but City and Newcastle are fine if they can take advantage of something nobody else really can do?

You do see it Boris. You just choose to ignore it. The whole thing is a massive sham just like your entire club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is still making absolutely no sense! What do you think they’ve actually ruled is anti competitive and for what reason?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

It makes a lot of sense melts. It's going to make it easier for City and Newcastle to funnel in money which has absolutely nothing to do with your club to keep you at the top.

What am I missing here? City fans are absolutely buzzing with this news over the last 24 hours. It's got sweet FA to do with helping out other non elite clubs. It's because it's going to benefit them.

Or have I got that wrong?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What’s going to help city or Newcastle? The changes they need to make to the APT rules to make them lawful won’t change anything for those clubs really.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You had 2 deals blocked didn't you that let's say were questionable at best. I imagine they will be back on the agenda now.

How is it not anti competitive to allow Nation state backed clubs to funnel in money through shady sponsorship deals. This new ruling sure sounds like that's going to be more plausible now to me.

But again you're only ever going to see this from your own clubs point of view.
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It's a tough situation for lifelong fans to be put into to be fair. It's not reasonable to expect those fans to stop supporting their club, so at best they become slightly hypocritical while acknowledging the ownership situation isn't ideal. Then, at the worst end of the scale you have people like Boris.

posted on 8/10/24

Polystrettelene has always been on a downward spiral since his "Are you concerned" article, which is still active today. Even his board disrespects him on a near daily basis.

Mamba always face plants on off-field football topics so I don't think he cares.

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't know who's taken this the hardest.

Definate toss up between Stretty and Mamba.
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Your CEO is stepping down. His number 2 already jumped ship. Your manager hasn't committed. Your best midfielder is out for the season. KDB looks like hes going too. You're facing 130 charges of being filthy cheats.

I'd say you've had better times than this yourselves 😂

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't know who's taken this the hardest.

Definate toss up between Stretty and Mamba.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Your CEO is stepping down. His number 2 already jumped ship. Your manager hasn't committed. Your best midfielder is out for the season. KDB looks like hes going too. You're facing 130 charges of being filthy cheats.

I'd say you've had better times than this yourselves 😂
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Our CEO?

Do you actually know anything?!

posted on 8/10/24

Oh I know. You got it from Talkshite.

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't know who's taken this the hardest.

Definate toss up between Stretty and Mamba.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Your CEO is stepping down. His number 2 already jumped ship. Your manager hasn't committed. Your best midfielder is out for the season. KDB looks like hes going too. You're facing 130 charges of being filthy cheats.

I'd say you've had better times than this yourselves 😂
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Omar wasn't his No 2 you dimwitted nobsock.

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't know who's taken this the hardest.

Definate toss up between Stretty and Mamba.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Your CEO is stepping down. His number 2 already jumped ship. Your manager hasn't committed. Your best midfielder is out for the season. KDB looks like hes going too. You're facing 130 charges of being filthy cheats.

I'd say you've had better times than this yourselves 😂
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Omar wasn't his No 2 you dimwitted nobsock.
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Did I miss Ferran Soriano's memo?

posted on 8/10/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
As it's been discussed today on radio...... surely this is anti competitive in itself. Who stands to benefit most by these associated sponsorship deals? City and Newcastle.

So it's only a problem when the odds are stacked against these nation owned clubs but now the opposite is true it's fine?

Football has made a real mess of itself hasn't it? 😂
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was it football expert, John Bishop again on Talksport?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

So you don't see this ruling as slightly hypocritical? The very argument they are trying to make is that it was anti competitive against smaller clubs but City and Newcastle are fine if they can take advantage of something nobody else really can do?

You do see it Boris. You just choose to ignore it. The whole thing is a massive sham just like your entire club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is still making absolutely no sense! What do you think they’ve actually ruled is anti competitive and for what reason?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

It makes a lot of sense melts. It's going to make it easier for City and Newcastle to funnel in money which has absolutely nothing to do with your club to keep you at the top.

What am I missing here? City fans are absolutely buzzing with this news over the last 24 hours. It's got sweet FA to do with helping out other non elite clubs. It's because it's going to benefit them.

Or have I got that wrong?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What’s going to help city or Newcastle? The changes they need to make to the APT rules to make them lawful won’t change anything for those clubs really.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You had 2 deals blocked didn't you that let's say were questionable at best. I imagine they will be back on the agenda now.

How is it not anti competitive to allow Nation state backed clubs to funnel in money through shady sponsorship deals. This new ruling sure sounds like that's going to be more plausible now to me.

But again you're only ever going to see this from your own clubs point of view.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The irony here being you clearly haven’t read the judgment or my first comment on this thread where I said both sides will be pleased with the outcome and you interpreting the whole thing (wrongly) due to your own point of view of what you want to see.

The judgment is out there, you don’t need to do it, you’re not that thick!

Both the deals that were challenged were set aside due to procedural issues. They will still need to be ratified and no challenge succeeded on FMV for them so it’s not as if suddenly City, Newcastle or any other club can start inflating APTs. The only way that will happen is if clubs now don’t agree on a new set of rules that include interest free loans from owners being counted as an APT. I personally don’t think they’ll agree that quickly, but the core components of APTs being assessed for fair market value is not going to away at all. In fact, City explicitly said they agreed with the principles of FMV.

The changes to the rules to make them lawful won’t particularly help clubs with APTs, aside from giving them possibly slightly more flexibility with what’s assessed as fair market value. What they will do is impact clubs that have been benefitting from interest free loans from their owner, like Arsenal, Liverpool or Brighton.

As I’m sure you’re aware, your own club isn’t in that bracket.

posted on 8/10/24

Sorry, meant to add and roll back on the amended rules they put in place this year, the pricing changes in there was also deemed to be unlawful.

posted on 8/10/24

I don't recall City ever baulking against FMV

Who makes the decisions anyway? It's got to be a totally independent body that works with solid data, not a panel made up of figures from the cartel.

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