comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
From what I can see, City have down well out of this in so far as they won the 2 major sponsorship cases, proved the PL were actively being biased against clubs with owners from the Gulf and have enforced a rule change that could hinder our rivals.
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Mamba all for a bit of discrimination against clubs with Middle Eastern owners
The battle continues.
Apparently, City is claiming that the PL is trying to mislead other clubs with their interpretation of the tribunal judgement.
https://archive.ph/Qp8lE
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Mamba all for a bit of discrimination against clubs with Middle Eastern owners
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Despite the tribunal finding no evidence of this
comment by Fifty Years of Hurt (U12953)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
It will be like the SPL writ large. With all the top players just getting hoovered up by the side that can literally pay whatever is needed. Why stay with a team paying £150k when the big two offer £300k?
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Except it's not because, believe it or not, players work in a global marketplace so the big 2 in the SPFL are minnows in the wider pool whereas EPL teams pretty much make up the top 20 richest + RM, Barca & BM - that's the big picture how ridiculous the market has been distorted.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 50 seconds ago
The battle continues.
Apparently, City is claiming that the PL is trying to mislead other clubs with their interpretation of the tribunal judgement.
https://archive.ph/Qp8lE
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City now left to turn to the clubs to pander and beg.
It's obviously not going to happen but the best step would just be to boot City out of the league at this point.
Their defense isn't that they didn't break the rules (that other clubs all abided by as part of the competition or were punished if they didn't).
City are doing everything to rewrite the rule book in their favour, how about go and set up your own league if you don't want to participate within the rules of the one you're in at the moment.
Many sports, including top level football aren't going to function without their own tailored rules and laws.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's obviously not going to happen but the best step would just be to boot City out of the league at this point.
Their defense isn't that they didn't break the rules (that other clubs all abided by as part of the competition or were punished if they didn't).
City are doing everything to rewrite the rule book in their favour, how about go and set up your own league if you don't want to participate within the rules of the one you're in at the moment.
Many sports, including top level football aren't going to function without their own tailored rules and laws.
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That’s conflating both cases together and not understanding the judgment or aim in this particular one.
The pl just have to put in rules that are lawful and don’t distort competition. I’m not sure why anyone wouldn’t want that.
It’s the way they’ve gone about it that bothers me.
I’ve said before but City never really bothered me, but to go and sue the league you’re playing in whilst pleading poverty and saying they’ll no longer be able to invest in the community or their women’s teams is quite plainly manipulative bollox.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 6 minutes ago
It's obviously not going to happen but the best step would just be to boot City out of the league at this point.
Their defense isn't that they didn't break the rules (that other clubs all abided by as part of the competition or were punished if they didn't).
City are doing everything to rewrite the rule book in their favour, how about go and set up your own league if you don't want to participate within the rules of the one you're in at the moment.
Many sports, including top level football aren't going to function without their own tailored rules and laws.
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You write just like the owners of your football club.
The tribunal has exposed the corrupt practices sponsored by the Red cartel. Now they are angry and kicking off.
City wants a rule that treats every club equally.
You can't discriminate against one group of clubs by using the dodgy APT rule while ignoring the blatant abuse of APT with owner loans to their respective clubs.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
It’s the way they’ve gone about it that bothers me.
I’ve said before but City never really bothered me, but to go and sue the league you’re playing in whilst pleading poverty and saying they’ll no longer be able to invest in the community or their women’s teams is quite plainly manipulative bollox.
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That doesn’t really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, which is why it didn’t make it into any of the impact statements in the judgment itself. That shouldn’t even be public knowledge.
There’s no avenue for them to do anything but challenge it the way they did and it’s been proven the rules are currently unlawful, so them doing it has clearly been justified.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Mamba all for a bit of discrimination against clubs with Middle Eastern owners
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Despite the tribunal finding no evidence of this
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It was one of the major findings of the tribunal
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
It’s the way they’ve gone about it that bothers me.
I’ve said before but City never really bothered me, but to go and sue the league you’re playing in whilst pleading poverty and saying they’ll no longer be able to invest in the community or their women’s teams is quite plainly manipulative bollox.
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That doesn’t really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, which is why it didn’t make it into any of the impact statements in the judgment itself. That shouldn’t even be public knowledge.
There’s no avenue for them to do anything but challenge it the way they did and it’s been proven the rules are currently unlawful, so them doing it has clearly been justified.
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It means something to me Melts, and imo shows them up for the absolute ball bags that they are.
We can’t invest in youth and community projects unless you change your rules? Sure, we believe you. What nice people.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Mamba all for a bit of discrimination against clubs with Middle Eastern owners
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Despite the tribunal finding no evidence of this
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It was one of the major findings of the tribunal
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"The league also said the tribunal had "rejected Manchester City's argument that the object of the APT rules was to discriminate against clubs with ownership from the Gulf region".
What now?
I’ve said before but City never really bothered me, but to go and sue the league you’re playing in whilst pleading poverty and saying they’ll no longer be able to invest in the community or their women’s teams is quite plainly manipulative bollox.
———————————-
Why do you persist with this tripe?
City never said anything of the sort, a newspaper hypothesised that we may use it as a line of mitigation
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
It’s the way they’ve gone about it that bothers me.
I’ve said before but City never really bothered me, but to go and sue the league you’re playing in whilst pleading poverty and saying they’ll no longer be able to invest in the community or their women’s teams is quite plainly manipulative bollox.
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That doesn’t really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, which is why it didn’t make it into any of the impact statements in the judgment itself. That shouldn’t even be public knowledge.
There’s no avenue for them to do anything but challenge it the way they did and it’s been proven the rules are currently unlawful, so them doing it has clearly been justified.
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It means something to me Melts, and imo shows them up for the absolute ball bags that they are.
We can’t invest in youth and community projects unless you change your rules? Sure, we believe you. What nice people.
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If you take it as a genuine position absolutely. It clearly isn’t though really, if it’s in the submission it would have just been part of them maximising the impact statement, which is what happens every time. Bear in mind no one’s seen the full submission (rightly), I imagine there’ll be a lot of highly dubious potential impacts in there.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 44 minutes ago
It's obviously not going to happen but the best step would just be to boot City out of the league at this point.
========
City are doing a great job if convincing the league that his needs to happen. They're proving themselves an existential threat to the entire Premier league and at this point it will be less problematical to just get rid of them and the grounds to do that are there.
We said they'd ruin football and here we are. We can't allow it to happen.
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 44 minutes ago
It's obviously not going to happen but the best step would just be to boot City out of the league at this point.
========
City are doing a great job if convincing the league that his needs to happen. They're proving themselves an existential threat to the entire Premier league and at this point it will be less problematical to just get rid of them and the grounds to do that are there.
We said they'd ruin football and here we are. We can't allow it to happen.
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lol!
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
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It’s literally in the first sentence of the decision!
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
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It’s literally in the first sentence of the decision!
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https://www.mancity.com/meta/media/wzmfdwtn/partial-final-award-p-164-redacted.pdf
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
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It’s literally in the first sentence of the decision!
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Welcome to the Post-Truth world. Make it up, stick it on social media and the muppets will believe it.
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
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It’s literally in the first sentence of the decision!
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Welcome to the Post-Truth world. Make it up, stick it on social media and the muppets will believe it.
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"comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Mamba all for a bit of discrimination against clubs with Middle Eastern owners
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Despite the tribunal finding no evidence of this
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It was one of the major findings of the tribunal
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"The league also said the tribunal had "rejected Manchester City's argument that the object of the APT rules was to discriminate against clubs with ownership from the Gulf region".
Yep, I give you Boris as an example of this.
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
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It’s literally in the first sentence of the decision!
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Welcome to the Post-Truth world. Make it up, stick it on social media and the muppets will believe it.
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The guy face plants every time.
My final word on this is that the The tribunal found -
1. that it was only right and proper that the PL should implement rules regarding the financial governance of the clubs to ensure fair competition within the PL.
2. the rules that the PL came up with and implemented were unlawful.
End of.
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posted on 8/10/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
From what I can see, City have down well out of this in so far as they won the 2 major sponsorship cases, proved the PL were actively being biased against clubs with owners from the Gulf and have enforced a rule change that could hinder our rivals.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 8/10/24
Mamba all for a bit of discrimination against clubs with Middle Eastern owners
posted on 8/10/24
The battle continues.
Apparently, City is claiming that the PL is trying to mislead other clubs with their interpretation of the tribunal judgement.
https://archive.ph/Qp8lE
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Mamba all for a bit of discrimination against clubs with Middle Eastern owners
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Despite the tribunal finding no evidence of this
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Fifty Years of Hurt (U12953)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
It will be like the SPL writ large. With all the top players just getting hoovered up by the side that can literally pay whatever is needed. Why stay with a team paying £150k when the big two offer £300k?
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Except it's not because, believe it or not, players work in a global marketplace so the big 2 in the SPFL are minnows in the wider pool whereas EPL teams pretty much make up the top 20 richest + RM, Barca & BM - that's the big picture how ridiculous the market has been distorted.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 50 seconds ago
The battle continues.
Apparently, City is claiming that the PL is trying to mislead other clubs with their interpretation of the tribunal judgement.
https://archive.ph/Qp8lE
----------------------------------------------------------------------
City now left to turn to the clubs to pander and beg.
posted on 8/10/24
It's obviously not going to happen but the best step would just be to boot City out of the league at this point.
Their defense isn't that they didn't break the rules (that other clubs all abided by as part of the competition or were punished if they didn't).
City are doing everything to rewrite the rule book in their favour, how about go and set up your own league if you don't want to participate within the rules of the one you're in at the moment.
Many sports, including top level football aren't going to function without their own tailored rules and laws.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's obviously not going to happen but the best step would just be to boot City out of the league at this point.
Their defense isn't that they didn't break the rules (that other clubs all abided by as part of the competition or were punished if they didn't).
City are doing everything to rewrite the rule book in their favour, how about go and set up your own league if you don't want to participate within the rules of the one you're in at the moment.
Many sports, including top level football aren't going to function without their own tailored rules and laws.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s conflating both cases together and not understanding the judgment or aim in this particular one.
The pl just have to put in rules that are lawful and don’t distort competition. I’m not sure why anyone wouldn’t want that.
posted on 8/10/24
It’s the way they’ve gone about it that bothers me.
I’ve said before but City never really bothered me, but to go and sue the league you’re playing in whilst pleading poverty and saying they’ll no longer be able to invest in the community or their women’s teams is quite plainly manipulative bollox.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 6 minutes ago
It's obviously not going to happen but the best step would just be to boot City out of the league at this point.
Their defense isn't that they didn't break the rules (that other clubs all abided by as part of the competition or were punished if they didn't).
City are doing everything to rewrite the rule book in their favour, how about go and set up your own league if you don't want to participate within the rules of the one you're in at the moment.
Many sports, including top level football aren't going to function without their own tailored rules and laws.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You write just like the owners of your football club.
The tribunal has exposed the corrupt practices sponsored by the Red cartel. Now they are angry and kicking off.
City wants a rule that treats every club equally.
You can't discriminate against one group of clubs by using the dodgy APT rule while ignoring the blatant abuse of APT with owner loans to their respective clubs.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
It’s the way they’ve gone about it that bothers me.
I’ve said before but City never really bothered me, but to go and sue the league you’re playing in whilst pleading poverty and saying they’ll no longer be able to invest in the community or their women’s teams is quite plainly manipulative bollox.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That doesn’t really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, which is why it didn’t make it into any of the impact statements in the judgment itself. That shouldn’t even be public knowledge.
There’s no avenue for them to do anything but challenge it the way they did and it’s been proven the rules are currently unlawful, so them doing it has clearly been justified.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Mamba all for a bit of discrimination against clubs with Middle Eastern owners
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Despite the tribunal finding no evidence of this
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was one of the major findings of the tribunal
posted on 8/10/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
It’s the way they’ve gone about it that bothers me.
I’ve said before but City never really bothered me, but to go and sue the league you’re playing in whilst pleading poverty and saying they’ll no longer be able to invest in the community or their women’s teams is quite plainly manipulative bollox.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That doesn’t really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, which is why it didn’t make it into any of the impact statements in the judgment itself. That shouldn’t even be public knowledge.
There’s no avenue for them to do anything but challenge it the way they did and it’s been proven the rules are currently unlawful, so them doing it has clearly been justified.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It means something to me Melts, and imo shows them up for the absolute ball bags that they are.
We can’t invest in youth and community projects unless you change your rules? Sure, we believe you. What nice people.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Mamba all for a bit of discrimination against clubs with Middle Eastern owners
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Despite the tribunal finding no evidence of this
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was one of the major findings of the tribunal
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"The league also said the tribunal had "rejected Manchester City's argument that the object of the APT rules was to discriminate against clubs with ownership from the Gulf region".
What now?
posted on 8/10/24
I’ve said before but City never really bothered me, but to go and sue the league you’re playing in whilst pleading poverty and saying they’ll no longer be able to invest in the community or their women’s teams is quite plainly manipulative bollox.
———————————-
Why do you persist with this tripe?
City never said anything of the sort, a newspaper hypothesised that we may use it as a line of mitigation
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
It’s the way they’ve gone about it that bothers me.
I’ve said before but City never really bothered me, but to go and sue the league you’re playing in whilst pleading poverty and saying they’ll no longer be able to invest in the community or their women’s teams is quite plainly manipulative bollox.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That doesn’t really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, which is why it didn’t make it into any of the impact statements in the judgment itself. That shouldn’t even be public knowledge.
There’s no avenue for them to do anything but challenge it the way they did and it’s been proven the rules are currently unlawful, so them doing it has clearly been justified.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It means something to me Melts, and imo shows them up for the absolute ball bags that they are.
We can’t invest in youth and community projects unless you change your rules? Sure, we believe you. What nice people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you take it as a genuine position absolutely. It clearly isn’t though really, if it’s in the submission it would have just been part of them maximising the impact statement, which is what happens every time. Bear in mind no one’s seen the full submission (rightly), I imagine there’ll be a lot of highly dubious potential impacts in there.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 44 minutes ago
It's obviously not going to happen but the best step would just be to boot City out of the league at this point.
========
City are doing a great job if convincing the league that his needs to happen. They're proving themselves an existential threat to the entire Premier league and at this point it will be less problematical to just get rid of them and the grounds to do that are there.
We said they'd ruin football and here we are. We can't allow it to happen.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 44 minutes ago
It's obviously not going to happen but the best step would just be to boot City out of the league at this point.
========
City are doing a great job if convincing the league that his needs to happen. They're proving themselves an existential threat to the entire Premier league and at this point it will be less problematical to just get rid of them and the grounds to do that are there.
We said they'd ruin football and here we are. We can't allow it to happen.
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lol!
posted on 8/10/24
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
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It’s literally in the first sentence of the decision!
posted on 8/10/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
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It’s literally in the first sentence of the decision!
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https://www.mancity.com/meta/media/wzmfdwtn/partial-final-award-p-164-redacted.pdf
posted on 8/10/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s literally in the first sentence of the decision!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the Post-Truth world. Make it up, stick it on social media and the muppets will believe it.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s literally in the first sentence of the decision!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the Post-Truth world. Make it up, stick it on social media and the muppets will believe it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Mamba all for a bit of discrimination against clubs with Middle Eastern owners
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Despite the tribunal finding no evidence of this
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was one of the major findings of the tribunal
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"The league also said the tribunal had "rejected Manchester City's argument that the object of the APT rules was to discriminate against clubs with ownership from the Gulf region".
Yep, I give you Boris as an example of this.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
If the rules were unlawful, they would have said that in their decision without hesitation. The fact that they didn't should tell you everything you need to know.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s literally in the first sentence of the decision!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the Post-Truth world. Make it up, stick it on social media and the muppets will believe it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The guy face plants every time.
posted on 8/10/24
My final word on this is that the The tribunal found -
1. that it was only right and proper that the PL should implement rules regarding the financial governance of the clubs to ensure fair competition within the PL.
2. the rules that the PL came up with and implemented were unlawful.
End of.
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