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City win APT case

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comment by #4zA (U22472)

posted on 8/10/24

Maybee Man Cs* can putt 2 gether there own indypendant body too make decisiuns regardin em?

posted on 8/10/24

You should bring your kindergarten group to run the PL.
We would avoid this palaver altogether.

posted on 8/10/24

Ralph Wiggum here seems to know the score.

posted on 8/10/24

comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 32 minutes ago
Maybee Man Cs* can putt 2 gether there own indypendant body too make decisiuns regardin em?
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Well the PL have screwed up in the cases against Leicester, Everton and now this one so you’d hope everyone would be thinking there needs to be a new regulator!

posted on 8/10/24

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 32 minutes ago
Maybee Man Cs* can putt 2 gether there own indypendant body too make decisiuns regardin em?
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Well the PL have screwed up in the cases against Leicester, Everton and now this one so you’d hope everyone would be thinking there needs to be a new regulator!
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I certainly am.

posted on 9/10/24

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
As it's been discussed today on radio...... surely this is anti competitive in itself. Who stands to benefit most by these associated sponsorship deals? City and Newcastle.

So it's only a problem when the odds are stacked against these nation owned clubs but now the opposite is true it's fine?

Football has made a real mess of itself hasn't it? 😂
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Was it football expert, John Bishop again on Talksport?
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So you don't see this ruling as slightly hypocritical? The very argument they are trying to make is that it was anti competitive against smaller clubs but City and Newcastle are fine if they can take advantage of something nobody else really can do?

You do see it Boris. You just choose to ignore it. The whole thing is a massive sham just like your entire club.
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This is still making absolutely no sense! What do you think they’ve actually ruled is anti competitive and for what reason?

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It makes a lot of sense melts. It's going to make it easier for City and Newcastle to funnel in money which has absolutely nothing to do with your club to keep you at the top.

What am I missing here? City fans are absolutely buzzing with this news over the last 24 hours. It's got sweet FA to do with helping out other non elite clubs. It's because it's going to benefit them.

Or have I got that wrong?
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What’s going to help city or Newcastle? The changes they need to make to the APT rules to make them lawful won’t change anything for those clubs really.

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You had 2 deals blocked didn't you that let's say were questionable at best. I imagine they will be back on the agenda now.

How is it not anti competitive to allow Nation state backed clubs to funnel in money through shady sponsorship deals. This new ruling sure sounds like that's going to be more plausible now to me.

But again you're only ever going to see this from your own clubs point of view.
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The judgment is out there, you don’t need to do it, you’re not that thick!


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Oh i think he is melts
As thick as mince this particular filthy rag baastard

posted on 9/10/24

‘“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC's position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void," the letter states.

"The decision does not contain an 'endorsement' of the APT rules, nor does it state that the APT rules, as enacted, were 'necessary' in order to ensure the efficacy of the League’s financial controls."’



Just go fack yourselves, seriously.

So what happens when one piece of statutory legislation of the common law legal system of England and Wales is struck down because it is ruled to interfere with primary legislation?

We abandon all criminal and civil law do we? Just bin it all off? Because the rest of the canon, despite not being condemned, wasn’t explicitly endorsed line by line, law by law in the judgment?

Honestly, City’s behaviour throughout their legal battles has been really exceptionally facking offensively odious.

Cannot wait for the disagreeable cants to get exactly what’s coming to them.

posted on 9/10/24

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 43 minutes ago
‘“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC's position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void," the letter states.

"The decision does not contain an 'endorsement' of the APT rules, nor does it state that the APT rules, as enacted, were 'necessary' in order to ensure the efficacy of the League’s financial controls."’



Just go fack yourselves, seriously.

So what happens when one piece of statutory legislation of the common law legal system of England and Wales is struck down because it is ruled to interfere with primary legislation?

We abandon all criminal and civil law do we? Just bin it all off? Because the rest of the canon, despite not being condemned, wasn’t explicitly endorsed line by line, law by law in the judgment?

Honestly, City’s behaviour throughout their legal battles has been really exceptionally facking offensively odious.

Cannot wait for the disagreeable cants to get exactly what’s coming to them.
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The best action is to boot them out of the league. They don't want to play by the same rules as everyone else and haven't done for over a decade now.

comment by Carter (U18826)

posted on 9/10/24

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 43 minutes ago
‘“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC's position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void," the letter states.

"The decision does not contain an 'endorsement' of the APT rules, nor does it state that the APT rules, as enacted, were 'necessary' in order to ensure the efficacy of the League’s financial controls."’



Just go fack yourselves, seriously.

So what happens when one piece of statutory legislation of the common law legal system of England and Wales is struck down because it is ruled to interfere with primary legislation?

We abandon all criminal and civil law do we? Just bin it all off? Because the rest of the canon, despite not being condemned, wasn’t explicitly endorsed line by line, law by law in the judgment?

Honestly, City’s behaviour throughout their legal battles has been really exceptionally facking offensively odious.

Cannot wait for the disagreeable cants to get exactly what’s coming to them.
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The best action is to boot them out of the league. They don't want to play by the same rules as everyone else and haven't done for over a decade now.
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Lets just abandon law then and go with whatever suits the cartel, you arrogant pr!cks

posted on 9/10/24

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 6 hours, 7 minutes ago
‘“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC's position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void," the letter states.

"The decision does not contain an 'endorsement' of the APT rules, nor does it state that the APT rules, as enacted, were 'necessary' in order to ensure the efficacy of the League’s financial controls."’



Just go fack yourselves, seriously.

So what happens when one piece of statutory legislation of the common law legal system of England and Wales is struck down because it is ruled to interfere with primary legislation?

We abandon all criminal and civil law do we? Just bin it all off? Because the rest of the canon, despite not being condemned, wasn’t explicitly endorsed line by line, law by law in the judgment?

Honestly, City’s behaviour throughout their legal battles has been really exceptionally facking offensively odious.

Cannot wait for the disagreeable cants to get exactly what’s coming to them.
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So you think it's ok as long as United and Liverpool set the rules.

posted on 9/10/24

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 43 minutes ago
‘“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC's position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void," the letter states.

"The decision does not contain an 'endorsement' of the APT rules, nor does it state that the APT rules, as enacted, were 'necessary' in order to ensure the efficacy of the League’s financial controls."’



Just go fack yourselves, seriously.

So what happens when one piece of statutory legislation of the common law legal system of England and Wales is struck down because it is ruled to interfere with primary legislation?

We abandon all criminal and civil law do we? Just bin it all off? Because the rest of the canon, despite not being condemned, wasn’t explicitly endorsed line by line, law by law in the judgment?

Honestly, City’s behaviour throughout their legal battles has been really exceptionally facking offensively odious.

Cannot wait for the disagreeable cants to get exactly what’s coming to them.
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The best action is to boot them out of the league. They don't want to play by the same rules as everyone else and haven't done for over a decade now.
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Is that the ghost of Henry Norris speaking?

posted on 9/10/24

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 6 hours, 7 minutes ago
‘“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC's position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void," the letter states.

"The decision does not contain an 'endorsement' of the APT rules, nor does it state that the APT rules, as enacted, were 'necessary' in order to ensure the efficacy of the League’s financial controls."’



Just go fack yourselves, seriously.

So what happens when one piece of statutory legislation of the common law legal system of England and Wales is struck down because it is ruled to interfere with primary legislation?

We abandon all criminal and civil law do we? Just bin it all off? Because the rest of the canon, despite not being condemned, wasn’t explicitly endorsed line by line, law by law in the judgment?

Honestly, City’s behaviour throughout their legal battles has been really exceptionally facking offensively odious.

Cannot wait for the disagreeable cants to get exactly what’s coming to them.
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So you think it's ok as long as United and Liverpool set the rules.
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Managed to straw man me with a false binary which also includes a false premise there. Three logical fallacies for the price of one. Pretty good going.

posted on 9/10/24

comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 4 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 43 minutes ago
‘“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC's position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void," the letter states.

"The decision does not contain an 'endorsement' of the APT rules, nor does it state that the APT rules, as enacted, were 'necessary' in order to ensure the efficacy of the League’s financial controls."’



Just go fack yourselves, seriously.

So what happens when one piece of statutory legislation of the common law legal system of England and Wales is struck down because it is ruled to interfere with primary legislation?

We abandon all criminal and civil law do we? Just bin it all off? Because the rest of the canon, despite not being condemned, wasn’t explicitly endorsed line by line, law by law in the judgment?

Honestly, City’s behaviour throughout their legal battles has been really exceptionally facking offensively odious.

Cannot wait for the disagreeable cants to get exactly what’s coming to them.
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The best action is to boot them out of the league. They don't want to play by the same rules as everyone else and haven't done for over a decade now.
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Lets just abandon law then and go with whatever suits the cartel, you arrogant pr!cks
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When City fans come out with this without a hint of irony it makes me laugh.

Who are your owners again?

posted on 9/10/24

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 8 hours, 1 minute ago
‘“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC's position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void," the letter states.

"The decision does not contain an 'endorsement' of the APT rules, nor does it state that the APT rules, as enacted, were 'necessary' in order to ensure the efficacy of the League’s financial controls."’



Just go fack yourselves, seriously.

So what happens when one piece of statutory legislation of the common law legal system of England and Wales is struck down because it is ruled to interfere with primary legislation?

We abandon all criminal and civil law do we? Just bin it all off? Because the rest of the canon, despite not being condemned, wasn’t explicitly endorsed line by line, law by law in the judgment?

Honestly, City’s behaviour throughout their legal battles has been really exceptionally facking offensively odious.

Cannot wait for the disagreeable cants to get exactly what’s coming to them.
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Don’t agree with this, how can what’s deemed an apt vs not not be applicable across the board? Hence the plurality in the judges decision.

posted on 9/10/24

Rossi seems to think the PL should operate outside laws that are actually on the Statute Book and continue with a set of rules designed to protect the business interests of a couple of football clubs

posted on 9/10/24

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rossi seems to think the PL should operate outside laws that are actually on the Statute Book and continue with a set of rules designed to protect the business interests of a couple of football clubs
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Another straw man

posted on 9/10/24

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 8 hours, 34 minutes ago
‘“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC's position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void," the letter states.

"The decision does not contain an 'endorsement' of the APT rules, nor does it state that the APT rules, as enacted, were 'necessary' in order to ensure the efficacy of the League’s financial controls."’



Just go fack yourselves, seriously.

So what happens when one piece of statutory legislation of the common law legal system of England and Wales is struck down because it is ruled to interfere with primary legislation?

We abandon all criminal and civil law do we? Just bin it all off? Because the rest of the canon, despite not being condemned, wasn’t explicitly endorsed line by line, law by law in the judgment?

Honestly, City’s behaviour throughout their legal battles has been really exceptionally facking offensively odious.

Cannot wait for the disagreeable cants to get exactly what’s coming to them.
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With all due respect Rosso, your ire should be directed at the Premier League, especially towards Richard Masters who oversee (or should be overseeing) the construction and implementation of regulations and compliance.

If I recall correctly, this is the second case that they have lost due to poorly constructed and rushed in sets of rules which proved to be weak when scrutinised in hearings.

Why only MCFC is the only club who wants an independent football regulator (again I'm open to be educated if I am wrong), rather than the current closed shop of internal battles and who was last at Masters' ear, should be something to think about.

posted on 9/10/24

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rossi seems to think the PL should operate outside laws that are actually on the Statute Book and continue with a set of rules designed to protect the business interests of a couple of football clubs
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Another straw man
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posted on 9/10/24

It’s always funny when fans of a club who registered in the Cayman Islands to avoid tax and are half a Billion in debt try to take the moral high ground over football finance

posted on 9/10/24

comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 8 hours, 34 minutes ago
‘“The tribunal has declared the APT rules to be unlawful. MCFC's position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void," the letter states.

"The decision does not contain an 'endorsement' of the APT rules, nor does it state that the APT rules, as enacted, were 'necessary' in order to ensure the efficacy of the League’s financial controls."’



Just go fack yourselves, seriously.

So what happens when one piece of statutory legislation of the common law legal system of England and Wales is struck down because it is ruled to interfere with primary legislation?

We abandon all criminal and civil law do we? Just bin it all off? Because the rest of the canon, despite not being condemned, wasn’t explicitly endorsed line by line, law by law in the judgment?

Honestly, City’s behaviour throughout their legal battles has been really exceptionally facking offensively odious.

Cannot wait for the disagreeable cants to get exactly what’s coming to them.
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With all due respect Rosso, your ire should be directed at the Premier League, especially towards Richard Masters who oversee (or should be overseeing) the construction and implementation of regulations and compliance.

If I recall correctly, this is the second case that they have lost due to poorly constructed and rushed in sets of rules which proved to be weak when scrutinised in hearings.

Why only MCFC is the only club who wants an independent football regulator (again I'm open to be educated if I am wrong), rather than the current closed shop of internal battles and who was last at Masters' ear, should be something to think about.
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They’ve made mistakes, obviously, not only in the drafting of the regulations, but also in the scope and approach, IMO. I’m certainly not arguing in defence of the wording or the current scope of the regs. (FWIW, I wouldn’t have any businesses related to owners sponsoring clubs or loaning them money, full stop.)

I’m also for an independent football regulator operating under a scope defined by government. But both of those things are by the by.

My issue is with how City have comported themselves throughout all of their recent legal battles with the various bodies governing the competitions they still seemingly want to play in. Refusing to provide information; claiming exceptional treatment; repeatedly playing the man; aggressively working to exploit loopholes; interrogating regulations looking for technical failures, which, when identified and (rightly) confirmed, they argue should see the entire rule book struck down.

It has been - seemingly purposefully - antagonistic, divisive, overtly self-serving, and wholly unconstructive.

(And before the whataboutery resumes, I am not here to defend United’s behaviour, or that of any other club for that matter. I’ve denounced the Glazers’ actions on here relentlessly for 15 years, so don’t need to hear it.)

posted on 9/10/24

^ Undermining authority can be added to that list.

posted on 9/10/24

From an emotive perspective, the opposite could be said too though. City have ultimately won the cases about their own conduct so far once it’s gone past the regulators, so there’s clearly justification for their actions.

I’m not sure it’s relevant to this particular case though. City said before the ruling change they thought the original rules were unlawful and so were the amended rules. The pl decided to put them in. City have challenged and they’ve been deemed unlawful.

The alternative is advocating for a regulator to be able to implement unlawful rules and surely no one wants that.

posted on 9/10/24

FFP was brought in to specifically stifle City and any other club that might dare to challenge the ‘Established Elite’ as they call themselves. Only the most gullible would think it was introduced to protect the league in general.

It must have been annoying to find that City were no longer the biggest spenders, didn’t have the highest wage bill.

To then discover City are making a modest profit every season whilst not having Millions pumped in every season with soft loans must have been a killer.

The PL, under the puppet who is Richard Masters, devised a whole range of charges based on obscure technicalities and now we have people complaining when we fight fire with fire with top lawyers to dispute them.

comment by #4zA (U22472)

posted on 9/10/24

posted on 9/10/24

"FFP was brought in to specifically stifle City and any other club that might dare to challenge the ‘Established Elite’ as they call themselves. Only the most gullible would think it was introduced to protect the league in general."

It was actually Portsmouth going into administration and dropping down the leagues due to spending beyond their means.

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