comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
Besides all of RRs, critique, it must also be remembered,
He is, a, proven liar,
A criminal,
A, molester of women, at best.
A, multiple bankrupt, driving, many, small business to the wall.
He, was, a draft Dodger.
Hes not fit to hold any public office.
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Those are some pretty harsh accusations to level at RR. Can't even begin to imagine what people might say if he does run.
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comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
Besides all of RRs, critique, it must also be remembered,
He is, a, proven liar,
A criminal,
A, molester of women, at best.
A, multiple bankrupt, driving, many, small business to the wall.
He, was, a draft Dodger.
Hes not fit to hold any public office.
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Those are some pretty harsh accusations to level at RR.
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RR is a filter monkey
Steady on 52. I have one or two good qualities as well.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
Besides all of RRs, critique, it must also be remembered,
He is, a, proven liar,
A criminal,
A, molester of women, at best.
A, multiple bankrupt, driving, many, small business to the wall.
He, was, a draft Dodger.
Hes not fit to hold any public office.
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Those are some pretty harsh accusations to level at RR. Can't even begin to imagine what people might say if he does run.
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https://x.com/strandjunker/status/1846272393725264250?s=61&t=ncpdEcJLIN1zPASIYpgYDA
This is the plan ^^
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 19 minutes ago
https://x.com/strandjunker/status/1846272393725264250?s=61&t=ncpdEcJLIN1zPASIYpgYDA
This is the plan ^^
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No idea who that woman is, but she's got some pretty usable quotes.
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
RR - I'm not defending Trump, I see issues with both Republican and Democratic policies, the truth is that the end result should be somewhere in the middle.
As for your claim for fascism, I don't think we are close. Trump fits the bill though.
The truth is, the state of the average persons quality of life (in the UK too) makes for easy pickings for the right.
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I know you are not actively defending Trump. The point I am making is that effectively equating the two candidates as 'both flawed' is an essential condition for Trump to win. There has never been a bigger moral or political contrast between US presidential candidates. Certainly in the last 100 years there has never been as openly racist, obviously corrupt or authoritarian candidate. The more our discourse underplays that, the more it gives licence to people who are a bit fed up with things to vote for him.
Whether we are close to fascism or not (which is debatable, I agree) if we don't react aggressively against political speech and movements that borrow its ideas, then those ideas start to become more mainstream - and I don't think there is any debate that that has already happened.
As for the legitimate concerns of the average person's quality of life - yeah, sure, we need political forces that urgently address that. Which means it's imperative that the principal challenge to liberal capitalism doesn't come from authoritarian nativism, cloaking economic policies designed to support the billionaire class.
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Can't argue with any of that
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
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This. There's plenty of damning and dangerous stuff that's backed by very solid evidence. We know that Trump is a lawless, vengeful, authoritarian who will cosy up to domestic billionaires and foreign dictators. We don't need to believe in a shadowy cabal behind Vance to make the whole thing sinister.
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.
Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
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This. There's plenty of damning and dangerous stuff that's backed by very solid evidence. We know that Trump is a lawless, vengeful, authoritarian who will cosy up to domestic billionaires and foreign dictators. We don't need to believe in a shadowy cabal behind Vance to make the whole thing sinister.
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Trumps talent for self promotion knows no bounds...hes Putin and Kim Jong levels of genuinely scary...its astounding that there are so many free living stupid Americans running abound to actually vote in order for this farcical creature to flourish
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
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This. There's plenty of damning and dangerous stuff that's backed by very solid evidence. We know that Trump is a lawless, vengeful, authoritarian who will cosy up to domestic billionaires and foreign dictators. We don't need to believe in a shadowy cabal behind Vance to make the whole thing sinister.
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Trumps talent for self promotion knows no bounds...hes Putin and Kim Jong levels of genuinely scary...its astounding that there are so many free living stupid Americans running abound to actually vote in order for this farcical creature to flourish
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Boris Johnson x10 with no filter
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.
Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
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Vance is more extreme than Trump.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.
Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
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As was widely documented, Vance showed a far more moderate and reasonable face than usual in the VP debate, though he lied a lot in the process, e.g. claiming that Trump had saved Obamacare as President, when he had actively tried to repeal it and only failed because McCain defied him in the Senate. He was also evasive about his extreme views about abortion. Nor did he reprise his suggestion that childless people should have less political representation than voters with kids. Nor did he voice the lies he had told repeatedly about Haitian migrants in Ohio and the fact that when it had been pointed out to him that the stories he was spreading were fake, he said it was up to the media to fact check, not for him to tell the truth.
He certainly a more fluent and slick communicator than Trump, but he has embraced the extremist ideology of MAGA wholeheartedly (just a few years after denouncing Trump in clear-eyed terms as America's HitlŠµr, which should bother you if you are troubled by Harris changing her mind about fracking).
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
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This. There's plenty of damning and dangerous stuff that's backed by very solid evidence. We know that Trump is a lawless, vengeful, authoritarian who will cosy up to domestic billionaires and foreign dictators. We don't need to believe in a shadowy cabal behind Vance to make the whole thing sinister.
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Trumps talent for self promotion knows no bounds...hes Putin and Kim Jong levels of genuinely scary...its astounding that there are so many free living stupid Americans running abound to actually vote in order for this farcical creature to flourish
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See I've never understood how he does it myself. I unfortunately get the entrancing appeal of what he represents to the angry, jaded & confused, same way cult leaders obtain power, what I don't get is him being a convincing figurehead for any of it.
Look at Trump on a superficial level - he's stupid, slurs his speech, looks like a tangerine, he's not funny (Boris' stealth weapon), maybe a little charismatic when he was young but certainly not now.
What is it about him I'm not seeing here?
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 minutes ago
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.
Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
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Vance, on repeating the lies about immigrants abducting and eating household pets:
“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.”
Like Trump, he has no interest in the truth.
Skybet have a special with Kamala winning the popular vote and Trump winning the election at 11/8, which seems like a bargain when Trump’s outright odds are 8/13. No chance he wins the popular vote.
Trump, like I said since the day Biden was elected, will win a 2nd term.
Biden is the worst president in history. You just can’t argue with it, if the Dems put any other candidate forward then Trump would have been finished. The Dems and all of Genocide Joe’s apologists should be embarrassed.
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Trump, like I said since the day Biden was elected, will win a 2nd term.
Biden is the worst president in history. You just can’t argue with it, if the Dems put any other candidate forward then Trump would have been finished. The Dems and all of Genocide Joe’s apologists should be embarrassed.
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Why do you think that Biden is the worst president in US history?
Because he has sent people back to vote for the previous worst president in history.
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because he has sent people back to vote for the previous worst president in history.
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But he beat Trump in 2020 so surely by your logic he’s better ?
How does that make sense? He wasn’t POTUS in 2020. I think 3.5 years into his term a reasonable time to judge him.
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 minutes ago
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.
Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
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Vance, on repeating the lies about immigrants abducting and eating household pets:
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That one was pure comedy. It’s embarrassingly bad.
The US and UK politicians are all self serving hypocrites who lie through their teeth to force their opinions on the public.
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 56 seconds ago
Because he has sent people back to vote for the previous worst president in history.
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We don’t know that yet. He might not have swung any significant number of Dems to the Reps. I haven’t seen any polling or even anecdotal evidence to say that Dems have switched sides in large numbers due to Biden.
Even at the point at which he announced he wasn’t going to run, which was, I think we can all agree (as does the data) a pretty low ebb, Trump was only leading him by a few points.
I wouldn’t say that’s a very strong argument for him being the worst president in history, or even worse than Trump.
There is nothing likable about Trump or Vance. They are both lying sack of sh!ts on a scale I have never seen before and are both disgusting, gross and utterly vile human beings.
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posted on 16/10/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
Besides all of RRs, critique, it must also be remembered,
He is, a, proven liar,
A criminal,
A, molester of women, at best.
A, multiple bankrupt, driving, many, small business to the wall.
He, was, a draft Dodger.
Hes not fit to hold any public office.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are some pretty harsh accusations to level at RR. Can't even begin to imagine what people might say if he does run.
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posted on 16/10/24
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
Besides all of RRs, critique, it must also be remembered,
He is, a, proven liar,
A criminal,
A, molester of women, at best.
A, multiple bankrupt, driving, many, small business to the wall.
He, was, a draft Dodger.
Hes not fit to hold any public office.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are some pretty harsh accusations to level at RR.
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RR is a filter monkey
posted on 16/10/24
Steady on 52. I have one or two good qualities as well.
posted on 16/10/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
Besides all of RRs, critique, it must also be remembered,
He is, a, proven liar,
A criminal,
A, molester of women, at best.
A, multiple bankrupt, driving, many, small business to the wall.
He, was, a draft Dodger.
Hes not fit to hold any public office.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are some pretty harsh accusations to level at RR. Can't even begin to imagine what people might say if he does run.
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posted on 16/10/24
https://x.com/strandjunker/status/1846272393725264250?s=61&t=ncpdEcJLIN1zPASIYpgYDA
This is the plan ^^
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 19 minutes ago
https://x.com/strandjunker/status/1846272393725264250?s=61&t=ncpdEcJLIN1zPASIYpgYDA
This is the plan ^^
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No idea who that woman is, but she's got some pretty usable quotes.
posted on 16/10/24
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
RR - I'm not defending Trump, I see issues with both Republican and Democratic policies, the truth is that the end result should be somewhere in the middle.
As for your claim for fascism, I don't think we are close. Trump fits the bill though.
The truth is, the state of the average persons quality of life (in the UK too) makes for easy pickings for the right.
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I know you are not actively defending Trump. The point I am making is that effectively equating the two candidates as 'both flawed' is an essential condition for Trump to win. There has never been a bigger moral or political contrast between US presidential candidates. Certainly in the last 100 years there has never been as openly racist, obviously corrupt or authoritarian candidate. The more our discourse underplays that, the more it gives licence to people who are a bit fed up with things to vote for him.
Whether we are close to fascism or not (which is debatable, I agree) if we don't react aggressively against political speech and movements that borrow its ideas, then those ideas start to become more mainstream - and I don't think there is any debate that that has already happened.
As for the legitimate concerns of the average person's quality of life - yeah, sure, we need political forces that urgently address that. Which means it's imperative that the principal challenge to liberal capitalism doesn't come from authoritarian nativism, cloaking economic policies designed to support the billionaire class.
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Can't argue with any of that
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. There's plenty of damning and dangerous stuff that's backed by very solid evidence. We know that Trump is a lawless, vengeful, authoritarian who will cosy up to domestic billionaires and foreign dictators. We don't need to believe in a shadowy cabal behind Vance to make the whole thing sinister.
posted on 16/10/24
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.
Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. There's plenty of damning and dangerous stuff that's backed by very solid evidence. We know that Trump is a lawless, vengeful, authoritarian who will cosy up to domestic billionaires and foreign dictators. We don't need to believe in a shadowy cabal behind Vance to make the whole thing sinister.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trumps talent for self promotion knows no bounds...hes Putin and Kim Jong levels of genuinely scary...its astounding that there are so many free living stupid Americans running abound to actually vote in order for this farcical creature to flourish
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. There's plenty of damning and dangerous stuff that's backed by very solid evidence. We know that Trump is a lawless, vengeful, authoritarian who will cosy up to domestic billionaires and foreign dictators. We don't need to believe in a shadowy cabal behind Vance to make the whole thing sinister.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trumps talent for self promotion knows no bounds...hes Putin and Kim Jong levels of genuinely scary...its astounding that there are so many free living stupid Americans running abound to actually vote in order for this farcical creature to flourish
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Boris Johnson x10 with no filter
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.
Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
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Vance is more extreme than Trump.
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.
Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
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As was widely documented, Vance showed a far more moderate and reasonable face than usual in the VP debate, though he lied a lot in the process, e.g. claiming that Trump had saved Obamacare as President, when he had actively tried to repeal it and only failed because McCain defied him in the Senate. He was also evasive about his extreme views about abortion. Nor did he reprise his suggestion that childless people should have less political representation than voters with kids. Nor did he voice the lies he had told repeatedly about Haitian migrants in Ohio and the fact that when it had been pointed out to him that the stories he was spreading were fake, he said it was up to the media to fact check, not for him to tell the truth.
He certainly a more fluent and slick communicator than Trump, but he has embraced the extremist ideology of MAGA wholeheartedly (just a few years after denouncing Trump in clear-eyed terms as America's HitlŠµr, which should bother you if you are troubled by Harris changing her mind about fracking).
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. There's plenty of damning and dangerous stuff that's backed by very solid evidence. We know that Trump is a lawless, vengeful, authoritarian who will cosy up to domestic billionaires and foreign dictators. We don't need to believe in a shadowy cabal behind Vance to make the whole thing sinister.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Trumps talent for self promotion knows no bounds...hes Putin and Kim Jong levels of genuinely scary...its astounding that there are so many free living stupid Americans running abound to actually vote in order for this farcical creature to flourish
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See I've never understood how he does it myself. I unfortunately get the entrancing appeal of what he represents to the angry, jaded & confused, same way cult leaders obtain power, what I don't get is him being a convincing figurehead for any of it.
Look at Trump on a superficial level - he's stupid, slurs his speech, looks like a tangerine, he's not funny (Boris' stealth weapon), maybe a little charismatic when he was young but certainly not now.
What is it about him I'm not seeing here?
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 minutes ago
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.
Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Vance, on repeating the lies about immigrants abducting and eating household pets:
“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.”
Like Trump, he has no interest in the truth.
posted on 16/10/24
Skybet have a special with Kamala winning the popular vote and Trump winning the election at 11/8, which seems like a bargain when Trump’s outright odds are 8/13. No chance he wins the popular vote.
posted on 16/10/24
Trump, like I said since the day Biden was elected, will win a 2nd term.
Biden is the worst president in history. You just can’t argue with it, if the Dems put any other candidate forward then Trump would have been finished. The Dems and all of Genocide Joe’s apologists should be embarrassed.
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Trump, like I said since the day Biden was elected, will win a 2nd term.
Biden is the worst president in history. You just can’t argue with it, if the Dems put any other candidate forward then Trump would have been finished. The Dems and all of Genocide Joe’s apologists should be embarrassed.
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Why do you think that Biden is the worst president in US history?
posted on 16/10/24
Because he has sent people back to vote for the previous worst president in history.
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because he has sent people back to vote for the previous worst president in history.
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But he beat Trump in 2020 so surely by your logic he’s better ?
posted on 16/10/24
How does that make sense? He wasn’t POTUS in 2020. I think 3.5 years into his term a reasonable time to judge him.
posted on 16/10/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 minutes ago
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.
Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
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Vance, on repeating the lies about immigrants abducting and eating household pets:
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That one was pure comedy. It’s embarrassingly bad.
The US and UK politicians are all self serving hypocrites who lie through their teeth to force their opinions on the public.
posted on 16/10/24
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 56 seconds ago
Because he has sent people back to vote for the previous worst president in history.
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We don’t know that yet. He might not have swung any significant number of Dems to the Reps. I haven’t seen any polling or even anecdotal evidence to say that Dems have switched sides in large numbers due to Biden.
Even at the point at which he announced he wasn’t going to run, which was, I think we can all agree (as does the data) a pretty low ebb, Trump was only leading him by a few points.
I wouldn’t say that’s a very strong argument for him being the worst president in history, or even worse than Trump.
posted on 16/10/24
There is nothing likable about Trump or Vance. They are both lying sack of sh!ts on a scale I have never seen before and are both disgusting, gross and utterly vile human beings.
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