comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
How does that make sense? He wasn’t POTUS in 2020. I think 3.5 years into his term a reasonable time to judge him.
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You surely must understand that it’s very much a trend that republicans ruin the economy and the dems fix it? Trump inherited a good economy from Obama and left a terrible one for Biden. Even with that Biden and Kamala have done a good job of fixing Trumps mess and now the dumbass MAGA supporters are saying they’ll vote for Trump because things were cheaper in 2020 during a pandemic when of course things were cheaper.

The election would be a very easy win for the dems if everyone who was eligible to vote went out and did so.

What Bats doesn’t understand is that Kamala is fighting against a whole host of misinformation from an entire social media site bought by Musk backed by nation states to get Trump back in power. For it to be so close is really damning for Trump considering what he’s been allowed to get away with up to this point.

comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 5 hours, 33 minutes ago
He’s buffoon but he’s been president before and the world didn’t end. In fact the world is far closer to global conflict than it ever was with Trump in charge.

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How many pandemics started under Biden, Bush, Clinton etc?

That’s just as silly a point made as the ‘global conflict’ arguments with Trump.

And besides… he inherited sensible (by US standards) military people which he proceeded to fire and he’s promising to install his own insane people around him when in charge second time around. That will be far more dangerous for everyone.
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How TF do you blame him for the pandemic? I'm no fan, but it was his reaction to it that was terrible.

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 5 hours, 33 minutes ago
He’s buffoon but he’s been president before and the world didn’t end. In fact the world is far closer to global conflict than it ever was with Trump in charge.

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How many pandemics started under Biden, Bush, Clinton etc?

That’s just as silly a point made as the ‘global conflict’ arguments with Trump.

And besides… he inherited sensible (by US standards) military people which he proceeded to fire and he’s promising to install his own insane people around him when in charge second time around. That will be far more dangerous for everyone.
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How TF do you blame him for the pandemic? I'm no fan, but it was his reaction to it that was terrible.
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Im not blaming him for it

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 minutes ago
I actually quite like what I've seen of both Vance and Walz.

Their debate was far ore interesting than Trump vs Harris.
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Vance, on repeating the lies about immigrants abducting and eating household pets:
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That one was pure comedy. It’s embarrassingly bad.

The US and UK politicians are all self serving hypocrites who lie through their teeth to force their opinions on the public.
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There you go again, trying to equate all politicians as the same.

There you go again, trying to equate all politicians as the same.

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Ask for specifics to justify these kinds of 'both sides are awful' statements and he has nothing. Well, apart from something about Harris being confused about electric vehicles.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 29 minutes ago
There is nothing likable about Trump or Vance. They are both lying sack of sh!ts on a scale I have never seen before and are both disgusting, gross and utterly vile human beings.

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Always had you down as a Republican tbh

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 6 minutes ago
All these things are possible, similar with the Project 2025 stuff... but it is just conspiracy theory, right now.
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This. There's plenty of damning and dangerous stuff that's backed by very solid evidence. We know that Trump is a lawless, vengeful, authoritarian who will cosy up to domestic billionaires and foreign dictators. We don't need to believe in a shadowy cabal behind Vance to make the whole thing sinister.
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Trumps talent for self promotion knows no bounds...hes Putin and Kim Jong levels of genuinely scary...its astounding that there are so many free living stupid Americans running abound to actually vote in order for this farcical creature to flourish
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See I've never understood how he does it myself. I unfortunately get the entrancing appeal of what he represents to the angry, jaded & confused, same way cult leaders obtain power, what I don't get is him being a convincing figurehead for any of it.

Look at Trump on a superficial level - he's stupid, slurs his speech, looks like a tangerine, he's not funny (Boris' stealth weapon), maybe a little charismatic when he was young but certainly not now.

What is it about him I'm not seeing here?
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Bang on... He's like the best con artist ever

Two more polls have just dropped, Trump seems to be stuck at 46/47%

https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1846518935266447776?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1846520105166946323?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
There you go again, trying to equate all politicians as the same.

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Ask for specifics to justify these kinds of 'both sides are awful' statements and he has nothing. Well, apart from something about Harris being confused about electric vehicles.
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“Can’t argue with that.”

One hour later, suffers amnesia and goes back to doing the exact same thing he said he can’t argue with.

comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
Because he has sent people back to vote for the previous worst president in history.
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But he beat Trump in 2020 so surely by your logic he’s better ?
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Trump will still tell you he didn't mind...

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago

Nor did he reprise his suggestion that childless people should have less political representation than voters with kids.
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You know, as a father of two that's actually an idea I can get on board with.

I would actually only get 1.5 votes right now, as my eldest is already of voting age, and my youngest's vote would have to be split between my partner and myself. But yeah, why should the interests of that younger person not be represented at the polling booth?

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
There you go again, trying to equate all politicians as the same.

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Ask for specifics to justify these kinds of 'both sides are awful' statements and he has nothing. Well, apart from something about Harris being confused about electric vehicles.
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“Can’t argue with that.”

One hour later, suffers amnesia and goes back to doing the exact same thing he said he can’t argue with.
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Can’t argue with that

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
There you go again, trying to equate all politicians as the same.

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Ask for specifics to justify these kinds of 'both sides are awful' statements and he has nothing. Well, apart from something about Harris being confused about electric vehicles.
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Harris claimed unemployment was at it's lowest in history.

CLAIM: “We now have historic low unemployment in America.”

VERDICT: The current rate of unemployment is not at its lowest level in US history and it was lower at one point under Donald Trump.

CLAIM: “In terms of manufacturing… creating almost 800,000 new jobs.”

VERDICT: This claim is somewhat exaggerated. From May to September 2024, the sector lost 44,000 jobs.

As of September 2024, just over 12.9 million people were working in manufacturing - 90,000 more than at the peak under Trump.

CLAIM: ‘Lowest Black unemployment rate in generations’

The Black unemployment rate in August, the most recent month available, was 6.1 percent.

Black unemployment was also low under Trump, which was not “generations” ago. Trump set a record low of 5.3 percent in September 2019 which was later eclipsed by the record low under Biden.
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All politicians lie.

Starmers lied and made excuses, Boris lied and made excuses, Trump and Harris also lie.

Cynical, maybe, but they're all in it for themselves one way or another. Bernie Sanders is the exemption to the rule imo.

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 29 minutes ago
There is nothing likable about Trump or Vance. They are both lying sack of sh!ts on a scale I have never seen before and are both disgusting, gross and utterly vile human beings.

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Always had you down as a Republican tbh
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Which should actually tell you a lot.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago

Nor did he reprise his suggestion that childless people should have less political representation than voters with kids.
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You know, as a father of two that's actually an idea I can get on board with.

I would actually only get 1.5 votes right now, as my eldest is already of voting age, and my youngest's vote would have to be split between my partner and myself. But yeah, why should the interests of that younger person not be represented at the polling booth?


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Because a lot of people would be using that voting power to represent themselves, not the child.

Gen Z / Gen Alpha are very liberal... You think that would show at the polls?

It's been an odd hundred or so years.

I think we're due a mass extinction event soon. We're actually in the middle of one already in a broader sense, but here I mean more in terms of human extinction than of life in general.

From a selfish point of view, I'm not sorry I had kids because they've given me a lot of enjoyment (along with some not so much fun stuff), and I suppose that if I asked them they'd sooner exist than not exist - but I think they're in for some really horrible times. I definitely won't be encouraging them to make me a grandparent.

"I think we're due a mass extinction event soon."

Isn't that what they told us Covid would be?

but I think they're in for some really horrible times. I definitely won't be encouraging them to make me a grandparent.


Exactly how I feel about my little girl, she’s gonna have a horrible future especially if climate change accelerates as fast as it has the last 30 years.

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago

Nor did he reprise his suggestion that childless people should have less political representation than voters with kids.
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You know, as a father of two that's actually an idea I can get on board with.

I would actually only get 1.5 votes right now, as my eldest is already of voting age, and my youngest's vote would have to be split between my partner and myself. But yeah, why should the interests of that younger person not be represented at the polling booth?


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Because a lot of people would be using that voting power to represent themselves, not the child.

Gen Z / Gen Alpha are very liberal... You think that would show at the polls?
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You see, I think that's the wrong approach.

You're looking at it (as is Vance, undoubtably) purely from the perspective of which side would benefit more from such a policy.

I'm looking at it from the perspective of children being human beings who are also in this world and who stand to win or lose as much as adults from the outcome of an election.

The only reason they're not allowed to vote is that they're not considered mature enough to make such important decisions. But that doesn't imply in any way that their interests are less important than those of anyone who's of a voting age.

Who knows, perhaps the responsibility of having to proportionally represent children who are not old enough to vote would make some parents think more carefully about the longer-term repercussions of their vote. (Yeah, that's not happening, I know).

Sorry, just to add to the above, I'd also bring down the voting age to 16, maybe even 14. After all, millions and millions of adults already approach voting with about as much thought and common sense as a kid would put into it anyway.

Another reason why America is absolutely bonkers

https://x.com/endwokeness/status/1846250438250684589?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 10 minutes ago
"I think we're due a mass extinction event soon."

Isn't that what they told us Covid would be?
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I'm thinking more catastrophic climate collapse, potentially exacerbated by nuclear fallout.

On your "all politicians lie", of course they do, merely as a matter of course. A bit like in the haggling scene in Life of Brian.

But again, that's just like equating ingrowing toenails and ebola. Not all lies are the same. There are malicious lies (and even half-truths for what it's worth) that are clearly intended to stoke hatred and discrimination against minorities.

I don't know what it is with people who their entire lives have based a lot of the rules by which they live on notions of 'common decency' but for whom any such red lines have simply ceased to exist just because it's someone from 'their team' who's overstepped all those limits.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 minutes ago
Sorry, just to add to the above, I'd also bring down the voting age to 16, maybe even 14. After all, millions and millions of adults already approach voting with about as much thought and common sense as a kid would put into it anyway.
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If JD Vance has his ways all kids will be allowed a vote, with parents being allowed to control their votes.

comment by Jake Moon (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
Another reason why America is absolutely bonkers

https://x.com/endwokeness/status/1846250438250684589?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
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Call me a conspiracy nut, but I am not convinced the guy in the green shirt is his son.