We have these cycles under Rodgers of static football. When it flows quickly and smoothly it is great to watch but I often feel we have weeks on end where the players can't get out of a slow passive game which ends up costing us. We have seen it every single season at some point and we are in it right now.

Burning team away in the last 15-20 minutes with fitness and strength off the bench doesn't mask the turgidness of the majority of the game

I love international week because unlike some I actually love going to watch Scotland. CS Jnr 2 doesn't bother too much with Celtic - he flits between Celtic and St Mirren depending on what mates are going to what games but he loves watching Scotland so we have the Scotland package. Hopefully over a few years build up some points to get major tournament tickets

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted about 2 hours ago
the more i think about rodgers football, the more it annoys me.

the players movement is shocking, see if you are going to play it out from the back you need to keep your opponent guessing, we just stand there.

The movement under ange was brilliant, it was enjoyable to watch, exciting fast paced football.

both win trophies, doubles or trebles.

Ange 2 seasons

1st - lost 6, drew, 3 won 29 - scored 92, conceded 22

2nd season - lost 3, drew 3, won 32, scored 114 conceded 34 (9 in the last 5 games when league was over).

Rodgers
1st season - 1st - lost 6, drew, 3 won 29 - scored 95, conceded 30

second thus far - lost 3, drawn 3, won 24, scored 89, conceded 20.

not a lot in that, and when you consider rodgers spending this season cant be far off ange total spend its even more baffling.

ange didnt get 11 million on a midfielder, 9 million on a striker, he didn't need them to be entertaining.

all that money to pass it back to the keeper, minging tbh.
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Think you’re being a bit harsh on Rodgers. Last season was poor up until the last few months of the season, Ange came into a mess and got it sorted.

I think this season the football we’ve played has been decent. We’ve had more control in most games, but I’m not sure we’d have done as well in Europe under Ange.

According to transfer market ( and I know it’s not that reliable), they’ve both spent fairly similar sums-but that includes the sell on fee for Jota when we sold him. Rodgers’ 1st transfer window was a disaster and I don’t really blame him for that.

We had poor games under Ange as well which seems to be forgotten.

Think last Sunday has skewed a lot of people’s perception on things. We need better squad depth.

Last sunday shows the gap was never as big as we thought it was.

We could still walk away with another treble this season and have had our best performance in europe in 20 years.

Plus the football has been very entertaining this season and someone is going to get a thrashing sooner or later.

Last sunday was complacency and even that happened with big anges team.

comment by Izzy... The Rat returns....fvck off back to Spain (U3410)
posted about an hour ago
"I think this narrow victory has got to the heads of a few"

Not me.....long since forgotten about it especially when the sun is shining and it's international week which I couldn't give a fvck about.
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You and me both

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 50 minutes ago

Think last Sunday has skewed a lot of people’s perception on things. We need better squad depth.
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https://www.celticfc.com/teams

We list only 6 midfielders and one of them is Forrest! With two out we were down to our only 3 remaining and they all had to play 90.

Very under-resourced with a squad of 23 and why I suggested yesterday that we could have utilised our spare defenders in midfield.

When was the last game we only made 2 subs far less an energy sapping derby?

No doubt it will be because Rodgers has now spunked so much on wages.

i dont think i am being too harsh pov, i think they way they have spent money is very different. I also wonder if ange would have got more from the players that flopped under ange.

europe could be a difference i think, but domestically i think we need more than to just keep possession, because when pressed we dont do it very well.

in the last 3 games rangers have got in our faces and we have folded in the first half under an intense press.

if we cant cope with that against rangers then it wont get better in europe.

We had 85% passing accuracy compared to rangers 65%. We played 41 long balls compared to rangers 52. 101 successful final third passes compared to rangers 29.

But rangers scored 3 and we only scored 2.

I agree sometimes it looks like we struggle when a team presses us, but like Silver shows above, we couldn’t make decent subs when we needed to. McCowan was dead on his feet well before the end of the game.

I think we were overly confident before the game in January and weren’t as determined as rangers at the weekend.

I was massively impressed by what Ange did for us and enjoyed some great games when he was here, but he’s limited when the level of opposition goes up. Rodgers has at least shown he’s got some ability to compete at a higher level.

I agree sometimes it looks like we struggle when a team presses us, but like Silver shows above, we couldn’t make decent subs when we needed to. McCowan was dead on his feet well before the end of the game.
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i think we crumbled a few times when pressed, not jsut by rangers, by brugge and other teams, not even top teams.

i get we couldnt make decent subs but i'm more concerned about the how flustered we looked at the beginning not the end.

too often the ball gets played back to the keeper to deal with, its lazy and it shirks responsibility.

if we want to play that way every player needs to take control, not just fvck it he can deal with it.

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 50 minutes ago

Think last Sunday has skewed a lot of people’s perception on things. We need better squad depth.
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https://www.celticfc.com/teams

We list only 6 midfielders and one of them is Forrest!With two out we were down to our only 3 remaining and they all had to play 90.

Very under-resourced with a squad of 23 and why I suggested yesterday that we could have utilised our spare defenders in midfield.

When was the last game we only made 2 subs far less an energy sapping derby?

No doubt it will be because Rodgers has now spunked so much on wages.
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Noticed that prior to the game starting , we had nobody that was ready to come into that midfield if one of them got injured . I suspect the plan was schlupp could cover that if it came to it but we looked really short on variation

We had a really poor bench for the most part , definitely need a striker ...preferably a good one !

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 7 minutes ago
I agree sometimes it looks like we struggle when a team presses us, but like Silver shows above, we couldn’t make decent subs when we needed to. McCowan was dead on his feet well before the end of the game.
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i think we crumbled a few times when pressed, not jsut by rangers, by brugge and other teams, not even top teams.

i get we couldnt make decent subs but i'm more concerned about the how flustered we looked at the beginning not the end.

too often the ball gets played back to the keeper to deal with, its lazy and it shirks responsibility.

if we want to play that way every player needs to take control, not just fvck it he can deal with it.
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We’ve lost 6 or 7 games all season? Hibs we were denied an equaliser that should have stood.

I agree we should deal better when a team presses us, but that will probably need better players. A lot of teams even domestically try it, and I just don’t think it’s as bad as made out.

We’re not a top team full of top players. We handle most teams fine domestically overall. Agreed earlier on with a comment about £25 million in the current climate isn’t a lot of money-compare what we spend to teams all over Europe and plenty struggle when pressed. Brugge are the team this season that I’ve been impressed with most. They’ve done well in Europe against good teams.

I just think sometimes folk go overboard. I’m not a Rodgers fan, but I know you absolutely hate him. This latest result is maybe been your best chance to have a go at him.

Btw-if Fan is looking in-any news on your Dad?

I’m not a Rodgers fan, but I know you absolutely hate him
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Hate is a strong word, i think he's an egotistical pwrick that demands top quality but has a team that spends most of the game passing it about the back 4.

I dont much care for it as u cunningly noticed

To the people saying we crumble when pressed how do you explain the second half on sunday?

Cause we dominated the second half and a bad slip cost us but we deserved at least a draw

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 10 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 3 minutes ago

I’d take Shankland on a free. Cheap low risk, home grown, proven in league and can play behind striker or up top. Save money for elsewhere.
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Oh, please do!

However, if your new owners really do have some stat based tool to identify players then the only categories Shankland is popping out in are slow and avoid. He's a scheite Kris Boyd.
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100 %

Shankland was offered to Rangers on numerous occasions and we have never bid.

I think it would never be a conversation if he wasn’t a prod.

Hes unfit, he’s good when a team is built around him but… he’s certainly not the answer against European sides and Celtic.

Age is at the wrong end too. I hope that ship has sailed. He picks up positions for hearts just behind the striker that a Rangers player will not get.


Calling him an attacking midfielder is miles off the mark too. Allowing a mobile footballer to run in behind when you cannot move does not constitute a number 10.

Shankland is exactly where he belongs - at a big diddy team. He'll be remembered in time as a good SPFL player, but he's not even as good as Dessers.

comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 1 minute ago
Shankland is exactly where he belongs - at a big diddy team. He'll be remembered in time as a good SPFL player, but he's not even as good as Dessers.
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Daft take, typical old firm snobbery that’s seen us miss out on good Scottish players in recent years. Used to be standard that we’d pick up the best Scottish players from other teams in league, and that contributed to a lot of winning teams.

Neither should be starting for us as first choice. Shankland is a better player in majority of games in Scotland, why he was players player of season last year. Dessers will be on at least three times what Shankland would, you’d also get a few million for Dessers, Shankland would be free. Shankland counts as homegrown, and is good enough as a player to play as an attacking midfielder. As a squad player would far rather have Shankland and spend any money on someone that improves our first xi.

It’s idiotic to have guys like Dessers, who aren’t good enough to start for us and are only going to decline, on big money as backup.

Steaming

Must be if you don’t want to sell Dessers in summer

I wouldnt be selling dessers to replace him with shankland.

I’d be punting both Danilo and Dessers, getting a new first choice and Shankland

See Eddie Jordan died. Didn’t know he had shares in Celtic.

Seemingly his last words were ‘I hope rangers sign that diddy Shankland.’

Looking at the Australia result and line up today

Like an SPFL select :
Lewis miller , scored
martin Boyle , Scored
jackson Irvine , scored x 2

add to that they had , kye Rowles playing
Adam taggart

and Daniel Arzani made an appearance !!

comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 19 minutes ago
Looking at the Australia result and line up today

Like an SPFL select :
Lewis miller , scored
martin Boyle , Scored
jackson Irvine , scored x 2

add to that they had , kye Rowles playing
Adam taggart

and Daniel Arzani made an appearance !!

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Maeda and Hatate didn’t play for Japan as they qualified for the World Cup this morning. Kyogo wasn’t even in the squad.