Will leave attempt to leave all hearsay and speculation off the forum especially if it is insensitive to a man that many hold in very high regard.

Bit harsh admin!! Speculation is rife all over the country, on forums and media as to why he took his life.

Was it really insensitive what i wrote, or merely an opinion like all the others on here....anyway, no hard feelings!

Admin 1 for doing a great job here and booting those that have been insensitive or tried to stir things up on this thread.

It is harsh, but we attempt to moderate with a degree of morality in such real-life events that move beyond football, hence why we don't like having the topics on the site. I would moderate it with the view that if he was a friend of mine would I let the comment stand. It is probably unfair to an extent.

Long day for ya's admins, well done team admin 1-2.

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It is harsh, but we attempt to moderate with a degree of morality in such real-life events that move beyond football, hence why we don't like having the topics on the site. I would moderate it with the view that if he was a friend of mine would I let the comment stand. It is probably unfair to an extent.
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Not at all unfair. In this instance, with the topic about life, not sport - it is completely fair.

Yes its a good stance to take admins, as it is the stance which is most defensive in serving to protect the honour of mr speed, thus eliminating any offence.

The media does get too much of a free-reign in this country. But its because there are so many people who for reasons beyond me are willing to sacrifice their money, time and ultimately intellect by reading such non stories. theres some deadly serious issues going on across the world, yet people are more than happy to indulge in reading non stories in tabloids, read nonsense magazines like ok!, hello, goodbye, etc and watch nonsense on tv such as the only way is essex etc. simple economics: remove the demand and there will be no supply.

Depression is a sensitive topic, and my take on it is: judge not lest you be judged first. We dont know what was going through his head in the build up to, and during the moments he made his decision and followed through with it. What I will say is, this is very humbling for it demonstrates that despite our 'I can run through a brick wall/ Im bullet proof'' macho attitudes, we are in fact incredibly weak and this could happen to anybody.

Finally, its no coincidence as another poster alluded to, that whilst religion (monotheism) has been mocked and ridiculed to the extent that it has now been pretty much abandoned, suicide rates across the world, particularly in the West have shot up.

As we as a species, have made advancements in technology and other such spheres of our lives, we have seen our society and morals decay at a similar velocity. For all our advancements, are we as a people any HAPPIER?

This story illustrates starkly that money does not buy you happiness.

I would say apologies for 'bashing my bible' but I am a Muslim and a proud one at that. I appreciate that my post has gone on somewhat of a tangent, but everyday I wake up to stories written by our media which mock, vilify and ridicule Muslims with the sole intention of causing Islamophobia. Also, depression is a subject I have knowledge of, hence I can read between some of the lines that others may or may not have picked upon.

Well said elBarto

elBarto , especially "As we as a species, have made advancements in technology and other such spheres of our lives, we have seen our society and morals decay at a similar velocity. For all our advancements, are we as a people any HAPPIER?"

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cheers modders, the swift action is appreciated.

I wish I have as Much money as he had

No problem.

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and I can probably accurately predict that the wife and kids of mr speed would give up every penny to their name to have him back.

Finally, its no coincidence as another poster alluded to, that whilst religion (monotheism) has been mocked and ridiculed to the extent that it has now been pretty much abandoned, suicide rates across the world, particularly in the West have shot up.
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It's NO coincidence, REALLY? Where is your proof for this ridiculous statement??

Religion was invented to control the masses, just as the OK magazines were, keeping the majority of the population down, where those in power want them.

its my opinion, whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant to me.

do your own research on it, the stats, studies, number of shrinks, patients and society in general testifies to it.

nWo whilst some people might believe religion is a load of nonsense, myself included that is not to say that it doesn't have a lot of good. Maybe people use the rules of religion and these rules are never bad one's. Stealing, murder, adultery etc. So whilst you nor I might not agree with religion, it does no harm to us when others do. So his statement is not ridiculous as he takes from religion a lot of good, as he abides by the laws of it.

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TOOR im far from being a model muslim but I try my best.

but i dont want to derail the thread to make it a 'religion: fact or fiction' thread. probably the best thread ive read on here with some very constructive and insightful stuff. keep up the good work.

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Many good threads following this tragedy.

Here is one you may wish to read also:

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/60497

Finally, its no coincidence as another poster alluded to, that whilst religion (monotheism) has been mocked and ridiculed to the extent that it has now been pretty much abandoned,
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What an absolutely ridiculous, uninformed, misleading claim to make. Religion is very much alive and kicking in all corners of the world today.

An inquest into the death of Leeds United legend Gary Speed will be opened today.


The 42-year-old father-of-two was found hanged at his home in Cheshire on Sunday morning.

Speaking on behalf of the footballer’s widow Louise and his family, Speed’s agent and best man at his wedding Hayden Evans said they had been “overwhelmed” with messages of support and condolence.

He also said the sportsman did not suffer from depression and was happily married.

When asked if Speed had any marital problems prior to his tragic death, Mr Evans told The Sun: “Louise is saying that’s not the case. She just doesn’t understand it. They were happily married and anyone who knows them will tell you that. This is why it’s a mystery.”

And when asked if the former Leeds United, Everton and Newcastle United midfielder had experienced bouts of depression, he added: “None whatsoever. The one thing the family and me as one of his closest friends would totally refute is that. There was no indication of problems and never has been.”


http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/central-leeds/inquest_into_death_of_leeds_united_legend_gary_speed_to_begin_latest_1_4009491


WOW!!!!!!

The mystery deepens!

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Having depression and showing signs of it are two very different things. People can bottle things up, not feel they're able to talk about it, or maybe have always been like that and think it's just normal.

That he hung himself would suggest that he DID have some sort of mental illness and all signs would point to depression.

The mystery deepens!
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I think we should wait for the inquest findings before anybody speculates any more about this tragedy. Its obviously not as straight forward as it has seemed.