I meant specifically like the are in the FA rile boof

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I should really proof read my stuff. Appalling isn't a strong enough word to describe my typing skills

I meant FA rule book obviously

Just to add Suarez did not call Evra ' a negro' - there is a Spanish word for negro and he didn't use that word. The Spanish word negro means black.

I think the problem for Suarez if it had gone to court would have been all the inconsistencies in his and his witnesses stories combined with the fact he even changed his statements on the issue. Courts tend to take a very dim view of people who change their stories, branding them unreliable witnesses and generally discounting their testimony.

MUDD - Anton could have reported him to the law as any offence ont he football filed be it violence or racial abuse is covered by the law of the country. There have been several cases referred to the law from events that took place on the football field.

comment by johnsonsbaby (U10461) posted 2 minutes ago

You said the laws of the country don't include racial abuse on the football field - and they clearly do.


"The Race Relations Act 1976

If a claim were to be brought before a court of England and Wales then the appropriate sections of the Race Relations Act would be cited. The Race Relations Act applies to racial abuse suffered throughout England and Wales and applies directly to all industries including football.

What are the problems with bringing such a case before the court?

In order for the player to be convicted of using the racist language it must be proven that he did in fact make these racist remarks during the match.

This looks like a difficult task as it is one players word against another’s as the other players on the pitch as well as the referee may not have heard the comments being uttered and considering the high profile nature of the match it is likely to assume that the other players would have been too focused on the task in hand to hear the comments.

However, given the nature of the high profile which football currently occupies it is likely that the incident was in fact captured by one of the many cameras used to televise the match. If this is the case then it could be used as evidence. "


Given the above - if the case had of been dealt with in a law court it is more than likely that Suarez would have been cleared as there was no direct evidence to prove his guilt.

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Apart from the fact Suarez admiited to it

Anyway we will disagree

I think there are mitigating circumstabces that may mean he wouldn't be found guilty on a court of law however the FA had no choice given the fact Suarez admiting to using a term deemed unnacceptable on the field of play.

No one is worried about the allocation now then?

Captain_7_The_Best - But he only changed his story 10 times, I mean 7 times, err hang on, 5 times.

comment by johnsonsbaby (U10461) posted 3 minutes ago

Just to add Suarez did not call Evra ' a negro' - there is a Spanish word for negro and he didn't use that word. The Spanish word negro means black.
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You are not allowed to reference another players skin colour

That is what Suarez did

This is not ambiguous

Just to add Suarez did not call Evra ' a negro'

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Yes he did.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)

posted 17 seconds ago

Just to add Suarez did not call Evra ' a negro'

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Yes he did.
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Unfortunately in scouseland, a player admitting he used a term is irrelevant.

Suarez is innocent until proven innocent... anything else is just plain bias

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)

posted 7 minutes ago

Just to add Suarez did not call Evra ' a negro'

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Yes he did.
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To be pedantic, he didn't, he called him negro, which means black in spanish, he didn't call him *a* negro.

I have never said that Suarez is innocent or guilty!

I'm saying he didn't call him 'a negro' - that's like saying in Spanish a black table is called a negro table!!

Anyway I'm not getting into this again I only jumped in to say that the law of the land covers the football pitch as well as every other work area in the country. Any player who has a leg broken etc can bring an action against the player who inflicted the injury.

From Wiki

In Spain, Mexico and almost all of Latin-America, negro (note that ethnonyms, names of nationalities, etc. are generally not capitalized in Romance languages) means "black person" in colloquial situations, but it can be considered to be derogatory in other situations

Why didn't Suarez use another insult. If he had called Evra hijo de punta for instance.

None of this would have happened.

I'm still a bit confused as to the term he heard Evra's team mates call him. That was his story at first, then we heard the negrito, then the negro, then the stories he told Kuyt and Comoli, then Kuyt and Comoli changing their stories, then Suarez accepting he used the term, and accepting the charge.

It appears Suarez and LFCs lawyer were happy to accept the charge but not the punishment.

So just because Suarez comes from another country that allows racial words to be said, it gives him the right to say racial words in England? What a poor excuse from a desperate scouser. If you say Negro here to a black person, here you'd either end up in court or in hospital bed after being beaten black and blue.

If Suarez was innocent then he would have appealed it is that simple. I suspect that the club's lawyers have had the final say in this and that Kenny and everyone else at Liverpool must feel a bit stupid that they believed Suarez and backed him in such a fashion.

Becuase England is so anally backwards and overly PC, anything that is said about someone skin colour is completely shunned upon. This is because England has treated black people so abhorrently in the past that they're having to go completely over the top in trying to remedy this.

I'd have thought this would even out over time and eventually reach some kind of happy medium. Unfortunately for now the pendulum seems to be at an absolute extreme.

Let's hope it doesn't take too long to find it's proper place.

comment by Bobby (U4765)

posted 3 minutes ago
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Bobby, Americans are a lot more intolerant of such behaviour and truth be told we should all be intolerant of such behaviour, except it's a liverpool player of course.

Bobby, aren't you the person who hates Pele and has a problem with South Africans?

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Err, my word

Bobby, nobody should racially abuse another human being. People that do so are scu(m). The lowest of the low and should be demonised wherever they are found. Such behaviour is unacceptable.

On the other point, I remember you now Bobby, you used to call yourself Bobby Heenan or some such thing and you got banned multiple times from 606 because of your fondness for Pele and generally people of his colour.

What are the odds of the same thing happening to you here again?

Oh of course you must be right, for there can only be one Bobby in the world, and that Bobby must be me.

I'm also Robert Downing Junior and Bob Marley.

Downey*

Bit confused there.

Daredevil,
What is it, does he hate Pele or love him,? Your last 2 posts have said both! I'm confused!