Hang on Elvis, I'm just trying to establish something here... Please afford me some time... Vidic chin, back with you... Are you debating whether it actually happened or wondering which time frame I am referring to as you know of more than one instance where away fans weren't allowed into Old Trafford....
comment by Redinthehead -at least we didn't finish 13th (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
So you are not debating whether or not it actually happened ? But willingly state that there may be more than one period of time when man utd didn't allow any away fans to old trafford?
..........................
I can't debate something until you tell me exactly what you want.
Once you tell me exactly what time period you are on about, then I will either counter your argument or agree with you or offer up some explanation.
I am not phsycic though. Help me out here lad.
We all know where this is going?
comment by BillyBobTaunton (U4886)
posted 4 minutes ago
VC
"So much so that some racist supporter at Anfield assumed that it was OK to shout vile racist abuse at an Oldham player."
How do you know he was a racist?
How do you know he shouted 'racist abuse'?
..............
Billy, don't lower yourself.
urm
"Are you really going to argue that it is far worse at one ground than the other because there may be one more case of it happening at that particular ground?"
Yep! What else can we go on? Suggestion? Possibility? You tell me!
This report from July - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-14256327
Okay vidic chin... Let me ask a simple question... As it has to be this way..
Do you know about any instances where man utd have not allowed away supporters to old Trafford?
(this is a yes or no answer)
How do you know he was a racist?
How do you know he shouted 'racist abuse'?
***
BB
Liverpool and its fans have been down this Cul de Sac already.
Need to show a bit more class over this one. The boy was visibly upset ffs.
VC
Seriously, answer the questions! If you don't or cannot then your response(s) are invalid really!
Do you know he was a racist? Do you know he shouted racial abuse?
Simply, yes or no will suffice...you will actually debase yourself if you try to get round these simple yes or no responses!
Then by your previous post (see below)... Man utd are a small club!
You've Devonshire yourself
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comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
My whole point is highlighting the fact that if fans misbehave then what is the alternative?
..............
You have no evidence of fans misbehaving Billy. We just covered this.
What we do have evidence of is Liverpool acting like a small club. If they can not control away supporters at their ground, then they really should not allow them in.
Yet again, this seems to look very poor on behalf of what was once considered a great club.
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335) posted 11 minutes ago
anything to do with construction work?
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I think that may be what VC is waiting to respond to
RBW
I accept that the guy was upset, do you know what happened? Are you 100% sure about it?
If man utd can't control away fans then that is small club mentality (according to vidicchin)
Taken from Spurs website -
Spurs v Manchester United, Premier League - Saturday, March 3
One Hotspur Members are advised there will be limited availability for fans in the Lower Tier of the South Stand for the Manchester United match at White Hart Lane as the away allocation has again been altered for this fixture.
As per the previous two seasons, Manchester United supporters will receive a reduced allocation - all of which are located in the Lower Tier of the South Stand.
As a result there are a larger number of tickets available for home supporters, with the entire Upper Tier of the South Stand being available."
comment by Redinthehead -at least we didn't finish 13th (U1860)
posted 24 seconds ago
If man utd can't control away fans then that is small club mentality (according to vidicchin)
.............
What are you on about?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
My whole point is highlighting the fact that if fans misbehave then what is the alternative?
..............
You have no evidence of fans misbehaving Billy. We just covered this.
What we do have evidence of is Liverpool acting like a small club. If they can not control away supporters at their ground, then they really should not allow them in.
Yet again, this seems to look very poor on behalf of what was once considered a great club.
comment by Redinthehead -at least we didn't finish 13th (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
If man utd can't control away fans then that is small club mentality (according to vidicchin)
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All away fans stand up. Do all away fans smash up seats, destroy toilets and scrawl graffiti about a tragedy?
Do you know he was a racist? Do you know he shouted racial abuse?
................
Do you know he isn't and didn't? Or do you think the Oldam player was upset over nothing?
Man united didn't allow any away fans in in the past... Which you know about, thereby it's an admission they couldn't control away fans... Accordig to your thiughts that's small club mentality.
You truly have done a Devonshire
If United's away support is so 'good', then why are clubs reducing their allocation? United fans will say 'jealousy'...I suggest it is more to do with the fact that they cannot abide by the rules! Safety first and all that...
No I wasnt there, but the Oldham captain was. LFC and the Police are both investigating an alleged, racist attack.
You can defend the racists all you want BB (simply because they wear Liverpool badges). But you will come to the end of the road eventually.
Read below.
Oldham captain Dean Furman urged authorities to take "heavy action" against fans found to be abusive.
"He was abused and I'll leave it to Tom and the police to investigate that," said Furman. "What happened should not happen in the game.
"It has been highlighted over the last few months and it is an absolute disgrace."
Redinthehead
I am still waiting lad.
What time period are you on about?
Come on son, shout out the answers when you know them.
^according to your thoughts
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9000190/Fan-arrested-as-Liverpool-probe-racist-abuse-of-Oldhams-Tom-Adeyemi.html
This shows you scousers that a man that was accused of racially abusing the Oldham player.
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posted on 20/1/12
Hang on Elvis, I'm just trying to establish something here... Please afford me some time... Vidic chin, back with you... Are you debating whether it actually happened or wondering which time frame I am referring to as you know of more than one instance where away fans weren't allowed into Old Trafford....
posted on 20/1/12
comment by Redinthehead -at least we didn't finish 13th (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
So you are not debating whether or not it actually happened ? But willingly state that there may be more than one period of time when man utd didn't allow any away fans to old trafford?
..........................
I can't debate something until you tell me exactly what you want.
Once you tell me exactly what time period you are on about, then I will either counter your argument or agree with you or offer up some explanation.
I am not phsycic though. Help me out here lad.
posted on 20/1/12
We all know where this is going?
posted on 20/1/12
comment by BillyBobTaunton (U4886)
posted 4 minutes ago
VC
"So much so that some racist supporter at Anfield assumed that it was OK to shout vile racist abuse at an Oldham player."
How do you know he was a racist?
How do you know he shouted 'racist abuse'?
..............
Billy, don't lower yourself.
posted on 20/1/12
urm
"Are you really going to argue that it is far worse at one ground than the other because there may be one more case of it happening at that particular ground?"
Yep! What else can we go on? Suggestion? Possibility? You tell me!
posted on 20/1/12
This report from July - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-14256327
posted on 20/1/12
Okay vidic chin... Let me ask a simple question... As it has to be this way..
Do you know about any instances where man utd have not allowed away supporters to old Trafford?
(this is a yes or no answer)
posted on 20/1/12
How do you know he was a racist?
How do you know he shouted 'racist abuse'?
***
BB
Liverpool and its fans have been down this Cul de Sac already.
Need to show a bit more class over this one. The boy was visibly upset ffs.
posted on 20/1/12
Yes.
posted on 20/1/12
VC
Seriously, answer the questions! If you don't or cannot then your response(s) are invalid really!
Do you know he was a racist? Do you know he shouted racial abuse?
Simply, yes or no will suffice...you will actually debase yourself if you try to get round these simple yes or no responses!
posted on 20/1/12
Then by your previous post (see below)... Man utd are a small club!
You've Devonshire yourself
-----------------
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
My whole point is highlighting the fact that if fans misbehave then what is the alternative?
..............
You have no evidence of fans misbehaving Billy. We just covered this.
What we do have evidence of is Liverpool acting like a small club. If they can not control away supporters at their ground, then they really should not allow them in.
Yet again, this seems to look very poor on behalf of what was once considered a great club.
posted on 20/1/12
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335) posted 11 minutes ago
anything to do with construction work?
--------------------
I think that may be what VC is waiting to respond to
posted on 20/1/12
RBW
I accept that the guy was upset, do you know what happened? Are you 100% sure about it?
posted on 20/1/12
If man utd can't control away fans then that is small club mentality (according to vidicchin)
posted on 20/1/12
Taken from Spurs website -
Spurs v Manchester United, Premier League - Saturday, March 3
One Hotspur Members are advised there will be limited availability for fans in the Lower Tier of the South Stand for the Manchester United match at White Hart Lane as the away allocation has again been altered for this fixture.
As per the previous two seasons, Manchester United supporters will receive a reduced allocation - all of which are located in the Lower Tier of the South Stand.
As a result there are a larger number of tickets available for home supporters, with the entire Upper Tier of the South Stand being available."
posted on 20/1/12
comment by Redinthehead -at least we didn't finish 13th (U1860)
posted 24 seconds ago
If man utd can't control away fans then that is small club mentality (according to vidicchin)
.............
What are you on about?
posted on 20/1/12
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
My whole point is highlighting the fact that if fans misbehave then what is the alternative?
..............
You have no evidence of fans misbehaving Billy. We just covered this.
What we do have evidence of is Liverpool acting like a small club. If they can not control away supporters at their ground, then they really should not allow them in.
Yet again, this seems to look very poor on behalf of what was once considered a great club.
posted on 20/1/12
comment by Redinthehead -at least we didn't finish 13th (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
If man utd can't control away fans then that is small club mentality (according to vidicchin)
-------------------------------------
All away fans stand up. Do all away fans smash up seats, destroy toilets and scrawl graffiti about a tragedy?
posted on 20/1/12
Do you know he was a racist? Do you know he shouted racial abuse?
................
Do you know he isn't and didn't? Or do you think the Oldam player was upset over nothing?
posted on 20/1/12
Man united didn't allow any away fans in in the past... Which you know about, thereby it's an admission they couldn't control away fans... Accordig to your thiughts that's small club mentality.
You truly have done a Devonshire
posted on 20/1/12
If United's away support is so 'good', then why are clubs reducing their allocation? United fans will say 'jealousy'...I suggest it is more to do with the fact that they cannot abide by the rules! Safety first and all that...
posted on 20/1/12
No I wasnt there, but the Oldham captain was. LFC and the Police are both investigating an alleged, racist attack.
You can defend the racists all you want BB (simply because they wear Liverpool badges). But you will come to the end of the road eventually.
Read below.
Oldham captain Dean Furman urged authorities to take "heavy action" against fans found to be abusive.
"He was abused and I'll leave it to Tom and the police to investigate that," said Furman. "What happened should not happen in the game.
"It has been highlighted over the last few months and it is an absolute disgrace."
posted on 20/1/12
Redinthehead
I am still waiting lad.
What time period are you on about?
Come on son, shout out the answers when you know them.
posted on 20/1/12
^according to your thoughts
posted on 20/1/12
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9000190/Fan-arrested-as-Liverpool-probe-racist-abuse-of-Oldhams-Tom-Adeyemi.html
This shows you scousers that a man that was accused of racially abusing the Oldham player.
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