where did i say he was a mate
he was a season ticket holder of many yrs and worked in finance
Sounded like he knew more about things than you do and a genuine concern for how his club is being run
If your happy then good on you, time will tell
City
United
Newcastle
Tottenham
No i don't think that but i just wanted to put that acronym up.
city
chelsea
united
arsenal.
United has always run very fine with the debt and nothing will change that.
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It would seem you posses the gift of seeing into the future also, with that ridiculously naive comment.
United's IPO will flop unless the Glazers use on of their other companies to prop up the issue.
Goldman Sachs - A highlly respected global institution, value United at $1.5bn.
Forbes - The financial equivilent of Heat Magazine, value United at $2.2bn.
The Glazers - Everyone knows who they are, value United at $3bn.
Someone's either got their figures wrong or they're telling porkies.
Boris
It will flop. I'm almost certain of it. But like I said it MIGHT not be the worst thing to happen to us.
It leaves the Glazers with one less get out clause and they are fast running out of options.
I honestly think they will sell up soon.
Here's my two pence worth.
1. City
Easily the best team last year, and are trying to strengthen. Despite all the 'they're a collection of good individuals, not a good team' criticisms, they were actually the opposite. Will win comfortably, and probably for years to come.
2. United
Poorest utd side for a long time, but Fergie's management and know how counts for 20 points a season. Won't win it, but won't be beaten to second.
3. Chelsea
Their form post-AVB was good enough to suggest they will be amongst it this year, and they have strengthened more than arsenal and spurs. Could go wrong, but I don't think so... think this is their comeback year.
4. Arsenal
Unfortunately, they have strengthened, and like I said above with fergie, their stability with Wenger will get them fourth. A lot depends on RVP though, they could really struggle without him.
Spurs, as much as I'd love them to finish 4th, have a new manager that will take a season to settle his team. Success doesn't come quick. As it stands, we have only JD as a striker, and are losing arguably our best player. We can't expect fourth to come when in fact we are weaker than last year (Harry had his problems, but it was a stable situation).
Liverpool.....
Boris
Only a fool would be stupid not to see that the glazers are milking utd and once they have taken what they wnat they will sell the club
They are not in it for the glory, they are in it to line their own pockets
I dont like what Chelsea or City have done but at least the owners are putting their money into the club , not taking it out
The Glazers - Everyone knows who they are, value United at $3bn.
Where in god's name have they valued the club at that?
1. City
Easily the best team last year, and are trying to strengthen. Despite all the 'they're a collection of good individuals, not a good team' criticisms, they were actually the opposite. Will win comfortably, and probably for years to come.
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We may as well all save ourselves a lot of time and money then and do something else.
Cricket anyone?
City won't dominate anything. They are clearly now in a position to compete and win trophies but their team isn't a dominating one. They won the title on GD and with 6 games to go, all their fans were in tears at the Emirates. A monumental collapse from United allowed them back in.
City are a very good team and favourites for the title and rightly so. But they won't dominate this league.
The Glazers - Everyone knows who they are, value United at $3bn.
Where in god's name have they valued the club at that?
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VRF
He's right.
$3b is roughly about £2.2b.
They'll never get that. I think 1.6-1.8b is probably about right.
Arab, as much as i hate to agree with uber-wum Boris, the Glazers have overvalued the club.
Here it says as much:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19061040
They value it ABOVE 3 Billion dollars. Ridiculous.
Wow really? I always thought they value it at like 2-2.5b or something, that's a ridiculous figure to be honest. Apologies for doubting your original comment Boris.
>>A monumental collapse from United allowed them back in.
A monumental collapse from City allowed United back in a month earlier.
A huge collapse from Tottenham before that let you both in ,
Stretford - I know it's an assumption to say that, and anything could happen (never write off United, golden rule of the PL!).
But... everything is in place. Good young squad. Good young manager. Investors still investing. New training ground with focus on the future.... it all adds up mate.
Not saying it won't be competitive (Utd have won so many league titles in the last decade, but it's still remained competitive), but it my opinion they'll add a few more league titles in the next few years.
Massive collapse from Chelsea that let 5 other teams in.
Yes they really are that daft.
$ 3 Billion (or £2.2 Billion).....as if anybody would be mad enough to pay that.
When we are eventually sold it will be much closer to the £1.5 - £1.6 Billion mark I reckon.
No idea where they got their valuation from. Forbes and Goldman Sachs are usually close to the money. Some where between their two valuations is about right.
The only way we would ever be worth $3 Billion or more is if the club got to sell their own TV rights, but that will never be allowed to happen because nobody would be able to live with us.
I
I can't believe Stoke p7ssed away the title
Stoke deserved to win the treble
A monumental collapse from City allowed United back in a month earlier.
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Not strictly true.
United were always within touching distance of City and City's 'collapse' was far more gradual than ours was.
We lost to Wigan, Drew to Everton and lost the derby within about 14 days of each other.
Do you really consider losing to a side better than you on paper (who won the title) and drawing to a top7 side part of a 'collapse'?
Wigan is definitely an upset but of the other two, one was the expected result and the other not great but not entirely bad result.
You could just say that the scedule was tough and you had one off day.
Superb
If you´d watched our 5-1 demolition of Spurs in the FA Cup Final
First of all it was a semi, secondly the referee demolished Spurs not Chelsea. The ref gave you one goal that was not over the line and failed to send off Cech, Spurs were cheated out of a fair contest.
Spurs were cheated out of a fair contest
comment by sandy_brown the elder statesman of the Spurs board (U13619)
You are so bitter, just admit you was crap and deserved to lose.
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posted on 1/8/12
where did i say he was a mate
he was a season ticket holder of many yrs and worked in finance
Sounded like he knew more about things than you do and a genuine concern for how his club is being run
If your happy then good on you, time will tell
posted on 1/8/12
City
United
Newcastle
Tottenham
No i don't think that but i just wanted to put that acronym up.
city
chelsea
united
arsenal.
posted on 1/8/12
United has always run very fine with the debt and nothing will change that.
======================================
It would seem you posses the gift of seeing into the future also, with that ridiculously naive comment.
posted on 1/8/12
United's IPO will flop unless the Glazers use on of their other companies to prop up the issue.
Goldman Sachs - A highlly respected global institution, value United at $1.5bn.
Forbes - The financial equivilent of Heat Magazine, value United at $2.2bn.
The Glazers - Everyone knows who they are, value United at $3bn.
Someone's either got their figures wrong or they're telling porkies.
posted on 1/8/12
Boris
It will flop. I'm almost certain of it. But like I said it MIGHT not be the worst thing to happen to us.
It leaves the Glazers with one less get out clause and they are fast running out of options.
I honestly think they will sell up soon.
posted on 1/8/12
Here's my two pence worth.
1. City
Easily the best team last year, and are trying to strengthen. Despite all the 'they're a collection of good individuals, not a good team' criticisms, they were actually the opposite. Will win comfortably, and probably for years to come.
2. United
Poorest utd side for a long time, but Fergie's management and know how counts for 20 points a season. Won't win it, but won't be beaten to second.
3. Chelsea
Their form post-AVB was good enough to suggest they will be amongst it this year, and they have strengthened more than arsenal and spurs. Could go wrong, but I don't think so... think this is their comeback year.
4. Arsenal
Unfortunately, they have strengthened, and like I said above with fergie, their stability with Wenger will get them fourth. A lot depends on RVP though, they could really struggle without him.
Spurs, as much as I'd love them to finish 4th, have a new manager that will take a season to settle his team. Success doesn't come quick. As it stands, we have only JD as a striker, and are losing arguably our best player. We can't expect fourth to come when in fact we are weaker than last year (Harry had his problems, but it was a stable situation).
Liverpool.....
posted on 1/8/12
Boris
Only a fool would be stupid not to see that the glazers are milking utd and once they have taken what they wnat they will sell the club
They are not in it for the glory, they are in it to line their own pockets
I dont like what Chelsea or City have done but at least the owners are putting their money into the club , not taking it out
posted on 1/8/12
The Glazers - Everyone knows who they are, value United at $3bn.
Where in god's name have they valued the club at that?
posted on 1/8/12
1. City
Easily the best team last year, and are trying to strengthen. Despite all the 'they're a collection of good individuals, not a good team' criticisms, they were actually the opposite. Will win comfortably, and probably for years to come.
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We may as well all save ourselves a lot of time and money then and do something else.
Cricket anyone?
City won't dominate anything. They are clearly now in a position to compete and win trophies but their team isn't a dominating one. They won the title on GD and with 6 games to go, all their fans were in tears at the Emirates. A monumental collapse from United allowed them back in.
City are a very good team and favourites for the title and rightly so. But they won't dominate this league.
posted on 1/8/12
The Glazers - Everyone knows who they are, value United at $3bn.
Where in god's name have they valued the club at that?
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VRF
He's right.
$3b is roughly about £2.2b.
They'll never get that. I think 1.6-1.8b is probably about right.
posted on 1/8/12
Arab, as much as i hate to agree with uber-wum Boris, the Glazers have overvalued the club.
Here it says as much:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19061040
posted on 1/8/12
They value it ABOVE 3 Billion dollars. Ridiculous.
posted on 1/8/12
Wow really? I always thought they value it at like 2-2.5b or something, that's a ridiculous figure to be honest. Apologies for doubting your original comment Boris.
posted on 1/8/12
>>A monumental collapse from United allowed them back in.
A monumental collapse from City allowed United back in a month earlier.
posted on 1/8/12
A huge collapse from Tottenham before that let you both in ,
posted on 1/8/12
Stretford - I know it's an assumption to say that, and anything could happen (never write off United, golden rule of the PL!).
But... everything is in place. Good young squad. Good young manager. Investors still investing. New training ground with focus on the future.... it all adds up mate.
Not saying it won't be competitive (Utd have won so many league titles in the last decade, but it's still remained competitive), but it my opinion they'll add a few more league titles in the next few years.
posted on 1/8/12
Massive collapse from Chelsea that let 5 other teams in.
posted on 1/8/12
Yes they really are that daft.
$ 3 Billion (or £2.2 Billion).....as if anybody would be mad enough to pay that.
When we are eventually sold it will be much closer to the £1.5 - £1.6 Billion mark I reckon.
No idea where they got their valuation from. Forbes and Goldman Sachs are usually close to the money. Some where between their two valuations is about right.
The only way we would ever be worth $3 Billion or more is if the club got to sell their own TV rights, but that will never be allowed to happen because nobody would be able to live with us.
I
posted on 1/8/12
I can't believe Stoke p7ssed away the title
posted on 1/8/12
Stoke deserved to win the treble
posted on 1/8/12
A monumental collapse from City allowed United back in a month earlier.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Not strictly true.
United were always within touching distance of City and City's 'collapse' was far more gradual than ours was.
We lost to Wigan, Drew to Everton and lost the derby within about 14 days of each other.
posted on 1/8/12
Do you really consider losing to a side better than you on paper (who won the title) and drawing to a top7 side part of a 'collapse'?
Wigan is definitely an upset but of the other two, one was the expected result and the other not great but not entirely bad result.
You could just say that the scedule was tough and you had one off day.
posted on 1/8/12
Superb
If you´d watched our 5-1 demolition of Spurs in the FA Cup Final
First of all it was a semi, secondly the referee demolished Spurs not Chelsea. The ref gave you one goal that was not over the line and failed to send off Cech, Spurs were cheated out of a fair contest.
posted on 1/8/12
Spurs were cheated out of a fair contest
posted on 1/8/12
comment by sandy_brown the elder statesman of the Spurs board (U13619)
You are so bitter, just admit you was crap and deserved to lose.
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