Wum
I am away to watch England beat Oz at cricket now,so we will no doubt meet again here.
Take it easy,and enjoy your weekend.
You appear very sensitive for one giving out on virtually every post.Believe it or choose not to,but the term "boy" here is not offensive or insulting,and I was calling you bud,and mate elsewhere,I assume,on another occasion.
I do not hate or dislike you,as this is a forum,and life is too short,believe me on that score.
If you are going to debate,do ot take everything to heart,or personally.
I am used to bantering on the Scottish boards,so there may be some misunderstandings,about how I express myself.
I do not try to be a saint,and simply say what is on my mind,or how I feel,and at times play devil's advocate,to tease out views.
I do regard myself as a proud Ulsterman,and British,and am thankful I live where I do,as it is one of the best places to do so,as is the western world,so called.
Now.you say that is imperialism,because you are from Kenya,and have a different political outlook,and that is your opinion.
I mean we fought for our freedom,against the natzis and communism,for example,and we did colonize in the past,which all people treid to do,and just look at Africa today,and in the past,or Greece,Rome,Turkey,India etc.
I do not carry guilt around on my shoulder and never will,as I did nothing wrong.
Now,those who hate us,and blame us for global evils,now see no irony in people coming here from all over the world,to a nation some see as racist imperialist crusaders.
Go on and point out western error and wrong doing all night,but give the rest of mankind a wee touch too,to be fair.
I never claimed we were perfect,or that I was a saint.
I bumble along,and so does the world............even you Wum,who thinks you have it all worked out.
Wum
Are you a proud Kenyan,even though you said they abused Somali migrants,and helped boko haram grow?
You think China,France,Russia became large strong nation's without violence,land grab,dirty politics,dodgy business dealings?
You think tribes live peacefully at all times,and do not seek to expand.
You reckon the Vikings were tourists,who got drunk and went mental?
Man is brutal,and as I said before,the western liberal world has progressed,to an extent,and other places are resorting to babrariism and imperialist land grab,mixed with holy jihad gibberish.
iIlamist agenda using,but also free standing and separate from western intervention,imo.See Saudi wahibbism.See Turkey with Armenia genocide 1945/46.See ottoman empire.See those fighting alongside Bosnian muslim's.See Turkey attacking kurds,and isis............complex and messy.
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Whatever, I'm not buying it. Doesn't matter how many times you say it. You repeated the same again in an offensive manner. No one has it figured out but when in a debate you act defensive from the get go, call people providing evidence anti-Western conspiracy theorists base your whole argument on things no one has said like you should blame the West for Africa when we are not talking about that, try to make stupid comments about how we are letting the Islamists off the hook, it just shows you were never interested in a debate from the start and have just wasted everyone's time. Not the first time either, I have had you blurt out the "yes the West is making ISIS behead people, the West is making Boko Haram kidnap girls blah blag blah" when no one has said any of those things when you are provided with evidence how Western foreign policy created the environment for those psychopathic groups to flourish and even put some of them in place. Like I said, you were not interested in debate at all.
I have already explained my view on nationalism here and why it is stupid at best so asking me whether I am proud () is pointless really. And no ttliv, if I am alive I would be up in arms protesting as another persons life isn't worth less than mine just because they hold a different passport. It is such thinking that is quite disturbing really.
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Wum
That was incoherent rambling on your part,and I am letting it go.
Best way.
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/05/tony-blair-could-face-trial-illegal-iraq-war-jeremy-corbyn?CMP=fb_gu
MUDD check this out!
Blair and corbyn............both have blood on their hands.
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posted on 31/7/15
Wum
I am away to watch England beat Oz at cricket now,so we will no doubt meet again here.
Take it easy,and enjoy your weekend.
posted on 31/7/15
You appear very sensitive for one giving out on virtually every post.Believe it or choose not to,but the term "boy" here is not offensive or insulting,and I was calling you bud,and mate elsewhere,I assume,on another occasion.
I do not hate or dislike you,as this is a forum,and life is too short,believe me on that score.
If you are going to debate,do ot take everything to heart,or personally.
I am used to bantering on the Scottish boards,so there may be some misunderstandings,about how I express myself.
I do not try to be a saint,and simply say what is on my mind,or how I feel,and at times play devil's advocate,to tease out views.
I do regard myself as a proud Ulsterman,and British,and am thankful I live where I do,as it is one of the best places to do so,as is the western world,so called.
Now.you say that is imperialism,because you are from Kenya,and have a different political outlook,and that is your opinion.
I mean we fought for our freedom,against the natzis and communism,for example,and we did colonize in the past,which all people treid to do,and just look at Africa today,and in the past,or Greece,Rome,Turkey,India etc.
I do not carry guilt around on my shoulder and never will,as I did nothing wrong.
Now,those who hate us,and blame us for global evils,now see no irony in people coming here from all over the world,to a nation some see as racist imperialist crusaders.
Go on and point out western error and wrong doing all night,but give the rest of mankind a wee touch too,to be fair.
I never claimed we were perfect,or that I was a saint.
I bumble along,and so does the world............even you Wum,who thinks you have it all worked out.
posted on 31/7/15
Wum
Are you a proud Kenyan,even though you said they abused Somali migrants,and helped boko haram grow?
You think China,France,Russia became large strong nation's without violence,land grab,dirty politics,dodgy business dealings?
You think tribes live peacefully at all times,and do not seek to expand.
You reckon the Vikings were tourists,who got drunk and went mental?
Man is brutal,and as I said before,the western liberal world has progressed,to an extent,and other places are resorting to babrariism and imperialist land grab,mixed with holy jihad gibberish.
iIlamist agenda using,but also free standing and separate from western intervention,imo.See Saudi wahibbism.See Turkey with Armenia genocide 1945/46.See ottoman empire.See those fighting alongside Bosnian muslim's.See Turkey attacking kurds,and isis............complex and messy.
posted on 31/7/15
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posted on 31/7/15
Whatever, I'm not buying it. Doesn't matter how many times you say it. You repeated the same again in an offensive manner. No one has it figured out but when in a debate you act defensive from the get go, call people providing evidence anti-Western conspiracy theorists base your whole argument on things no one has said like you should blame the West for Africa when we are not talking about that, try to make stupid comments about how we are letting the Islamists off the hook, it just shows you were never interested in a debate from the start and have just wasted everyone's time. Not the first time either, I have had you blurt out the "yes the West is making ISIS behead people, the West is making Boko Haram kidnap girls blah blag blah" when no one has said any of those things when you are provided with evidence how Western foreign policy created the environment for those psychopathic groups to flourish and even put some of them in place. Like I said, you were not interested in debate at all.
posted on 31/7/15
I have already explained my view on nationalism here and why it is stupid at best so asking me whether I am proud () is pointless really. And no ttliv, if I am alive I would be up in arms protesting as another persons life isn't worth less than mine just because they hold a different passport. It is such thinking that is quite disturbing really.
posted on 31/7/15
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posted on 31/7/15
Wum
That was incoherent rambling on your part,and I am letting it go.
Best way.
posted on 5/8/15
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/05/tony-blair-could-face-trial-illegal-iraq-war-jeremy-corbyn?CMP=fb_gu
MUDD check this out!
posted on 5/8/15
Blair and corbyn............both have blood on their hands.
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