Don,

I think you’re missing the point slightly. In an attempt to prove YOU were right about N’Jie, YOU used the fact the Spurs website has him down as a midfielder proves YOUR point. This meaning YOU believe the Spurs website to be accurate. Comprende?

However, regardless of whether you think there is a conspiracy by the 'THFC website admin' to undermine you on JA606, the platform YOU have used to claim you are right about N’Jie says you are wrong about Son. You can’t have it both ways. Either you believe it is right for both or it isn’t a reliable source for information. Which is it?

Son played up front v Qarabag and scored 2.

Just saying

HRH, Chadli played upfront against Arsenal last season and scored. Don't mean he can do a job there permanently if Kane gets injured does it

Chicken, I just think your just diverting from my original argument. I believe spurs need a striker of some sort this Jan and daniel levy is that man to make this happen don't we agree? So if he leaves us short which we know full well we are in need of someone in that position then who else do you blame? If Harry Kane gets an injury and we have no other proper option then he is totally to blame. I love Son as a player but I don't trust him or especially Njie to lead that line upfront sorry

HRH , believe it or not I actually was meant to put a at the end of my comment to you and not a ......

Don,

Chicken, I just think your just diverting from my original argument. I believe spurs need a striker of some sort this Jan and daniel levy is that man to make this happen don't we agree? So if he leaves us short which we know full well we are in need of someone in that position then who else do you blame?

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Your original argument was that we don’t have cover for Kane. I disagree with this as I believe N’Jie and Son were bought with the knowing they can cover this position. You do not believe Son or N’Jie are forwards or were bought as cover – this is your opinion and this is fine .

My issue with your posting was simply that you referred to the Spurs website to “prove” N’Jie isn’t a striker – yet the same source proved you were wrong about Son – but you’re insisting the site is now unreliable. Surely you can see my point and why I have brought this to your attention.

Furthermore, the January TW is often the hardest to attract players as lower teams won’t want to lose their players because the price of relegation is too high, and the better sides have European competitions to consider. Plus, I don’t want us spending needless funds just to get a player who has the position “striker” next to their name, when in reality Son (or N’Jie) can probably cover there as good as “unproven player”.

Lastly, at the moment I think Levy (& Poch) deserve a lot of praise – and there is no need to be digging either out for what might or might not happen in January. Without Levy we wouldn’t have got (what now look to be) bargain buys like Dier, Alli, and we wouldn’t have other influential players like Alderweireld and Son. We do alright in the transfer market. I think some fans have been a bit spoilt over the years.

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Sorry I can't agree guys. No top team has just 1 recognised striker. We are the only team in the league who is in this position and we are just lucky that Harry Kane barely gets injured. This won't go on forever though and Harry Kane will pick up an injury sooner or later meaning we got to play players that "can" play striker rather than a player that "is" a striker. This is my point and I really don't want all our hard work this season to be ruined when the inevitable happens and Kane gets injured. Clinton Njie and Son have never consistently played as strikers on any point of their career so how are we supposed to trust them if Harry gets injured? This is no bash on the players itself. I just don't think these 2 are the answer to replace Kane if he gets an injury for a month or so. We need a striker in Jan it's that simple.

We need a striker in Jan it's that simple.

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But that’s just it - it isn't simple at all.

If we put aside the point that Son is actually listed as a striker - so he must (in the Spurs coaches eyes at least) be considered one, you have totally ignored my 3rd paragraph above which reads:

"Furthermore, the January TW is often the hardest to attract players as lower teams won’t want to lose their players because the price of relegation is too high, and the better sides have European competitions to consider. Plus, I don’t want us spending needless funds just to get a player who has the position “striker” next to their name, when in reality Son (or N’Jie) can probably cover there as good as “unproven player”."

I don't want Levy splashing any more cash than he needs to. We do not have an empty pit of money and neither does THFC Plc have a secret money tree.

If there was a player out there who would adapt instantly to the Premiership, cost peanuts, would score lots of goals, and was happy to play second fiddle to Kane 99% of the time (bar injuries), then I agree it is simple - but the fact is it will be difficult to fit any of this criteria - it is definitely not simple.

I'm with Don here, we definitely need to invest this January on a dedicated striker. It doesn't have to be a fancy Dan signing, just somebody happy to play 2nd fiddle to Kane to enable us to take Kane off every once in a while and chop and change in less significant games. As things stand - Kane has to play every single game for the full 90 minutes in order to stick to our natural style - it's less than ideal and tbf, the club recognises this what with their pursuit of Berahino over the summer.

I don't have massive knowledge of European football, but somebody like Kramaric from Leicester would be a welcome addition for me. I reckon Levy would be able to get him for less than the 9 million odd Leicester paid for him a couple of season ago.

Thing is, like Chicken says, it isn't so simple. Levy will no doubt want to invest wisely or not at all, so that means somebody with potential to improve who is still relatively young. Kramaric fits the bill from my knowledge of the player in the Croatian league, saying that i am talking 2 or so years ago which is a long time in football.

Daniel hasn't got a JA606 account Don

He's doing a fine job

don thinks its football manager

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posted 4 days, 22 hours ago



Sorry I can't agree guys. No top team has just 1 recognised striker.

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Yeh arsenal are a good example but even they (the fans) have been crying out for another striker for years

Yet they finish in the top 4 season after season by having an excellent midfield, which we have now

Levy

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comment by Wearethefamous THFC .. (U19211)
posted 28 minutes ago
Chronic will be first one to spit his dummy out if we don't get another striker and Kane gets injured long term
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I already criticised levy for not getting another out and out striker - I think its naïve and a mistake, same way poch's squad on Thursday was silly. that said, overall I am very pro levy and poch

The Guardian reported that Poch turned down Austin, and said he'd rather stick with what he had if he couldn't get Berahino.

If true, you can't wholly blame Levy for it.

I can't see Austin fitting in too well at Spurs tbh, he's a bit of a battering ram and would demand crosses into the box which we don't really do too often what with Son, Eriksen, Lamela all cutting in.

You could argue it would give us another dimension i suppose, but i think Poch firmly knows the style he wants us to play, and it requires a someone with a bit more panache about them outside the box

Austin is no more of a battering ram than Lambert, and he was integral for Poch at Saints.

Rather than us change style completely if Austin played instead of Kane, and tailor it towards getting crosses in, I'd see it more as him being the focal point, the player the ball sticks in to and gives other forwards a chance to join in.

Let's be honest, Berahino isn't going to offer us anything like what Kane does if he had to play instead. Totally different player altogether

Berahino and Kane have showed they can play together at U21s, and anyhow, i'm sure we could tweak our style to suit another striker if Kane did get injured - there is no point just trying to sign a replica Harry Kane just in case Harry Kane gets injured.

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Chicken

25m seems a lot of dough for a striker we wouldn't actually play as a striker.

Who'd be dropped to shoehorn him in to the side and muddle through? Eriksen? Son?

If Kane is out, is he the type of forward who can drop in and try and replicate what he does? Is there even enough goals there? His record isn't exactly prolific.

Everything about it screams no.

What is wrong with buying a similar player in case another gets injured, or they can step in for other games, anyway?

That's what we do in other positions. We have Vorm, Davies, Trippier, NJie that do exactly this

HRH,

You're right in saying Berahino's goal record at WBA isn't prolific, but it isn't that bad either.

His goal scoring record in general is actually pretty good though. I have just looked up his stats on Wiki (yeah i know its only Wiki but it was just quick and easy ) and they are as follows:

WBA 22 in 80 (1 in just over 3)
Northampton (loan) 6 in 14 (1 in just over 2)
Brentford (loan) 4 in 8 (1 in every 2)
Peterborough (loan) 2 in 10 (agreed, this is poor )

England U16: 3 in 4 (nearly 1 in 1 )
England U17: 6 in 12 (1 in every 2)
England U18: 2 in 2 (1 in every game)
England U19: 3 in 11 (nearly 1 in 3ish)
England U20: 0 in 7
England U21: 10 in 11 (nearly 1 in every game) Playing with Harry, remember

So all in all, i think its a pretty good goal record for a young upcoming striker and £25m would be quite good business IMO.

Chicken, those stats are also distorted as berahino spent a lot of games on the bench last season and this season to. In all the record is actually pretty good when you consider that plus the fact he plays for a lesser team in westbrom

Don,

I couldnt agree more.