comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 21 minutes ago
depends when your comparing him too, rooney for a long period had alternate seasons(30 goals one year,10 the next) torres was devestating for atletico when they were not as good as they are now.
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No he wasnt. He was ok, some seasons mediocre. Youre talking to someone who knows his record here.
his second season for liverpool he scored 17 and third 22. thats not earth shattering or ground breaking.
hes never scored as many as rooney has in his best season, something rooney has achieved twice and rooney has never scored 10 goals in a season i dont know where you got that from.
torres in his time at liverpool scored 81 in 142, rooney scored 88 in 140 despite spending a huge chunk of that on the left wing to accomodate ronaldo.
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A huge chunk? I'd love to see them stats and besides torres was up front alone with just gerrard in the team really, rooney played for the best team in the country and I would wager had a great deal more penalties.
Torres was a fantastic striker, someone said Rooney was easily better, which was a scandalous thing to say. and BTW im a rooney fan.
rooney has never scored 10 goals in a season i dont know where you got that from.
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Sorry 12 in 08 in the league
12 in 09 in the league
11 in 2011 in the league
12 in 2013
12 in 2015
So near enough 10
No it isn't. Two strikers with over 40 goals between them, lots of players having had good seasons. Tell me how it's the worst England side for ages? What are you basing that on?
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40 goals in the worst pl for years.
because there good seasons arent as good as previous players seasons. we use to have a few world clas s players, we now have none. Our defence is chit our midfield is chit.
It's better than the last 3 England squads.
comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
rooney has never scored 10 goals in a season i dont know where you got that from.
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Sorry 12 in 08 in the league
12 in 09 in the league
11 in 2011 in the league
12 in 2013
12 in 2015
So near enough 10
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Since when were we only talking about league goals?
A huge chunk?
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yes he spent pretty much three seasons between 06/09 on the left of a front three.
I'd love to see them stats and besides torres was up front alone with just gerrard in the team really, rooney played for the best team in the country and I would wager had a great deal more penalties.
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during the time torres was at liverpool? Not that many, ronaldo was our penalty taker for torres 3 full years at liverpool.
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
rooney has never scored 10 goals in a season i dont know where you got that from.
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Sorry 12 in 08 in the league
12 in 09 in the league
11 in 2011 in the league
12 in 2013
12 in 2015
So near enough 10
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Since when were we only talking about league goals?
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Easiest to go by and to keep at a standard level. When I said he fluctuates between scoring nearly 30 one season and 10 the next I meant league.
TBH Rooney's record is even more impressive when you consider for large parts of it he wasn't really playing as the no.9
The one season he did play quite a bit as a 9 is one of his best returns, struggling to remember the exact season but I think he was competing with Drogba for the golden boot towards the end.
torres liverpool side came second. they were hardly bad.
youre talking full on rot lad and dont seem to have a scooby what youre on about. thats fine.
But rooney has a better record, at club and int level, and apart from one season has been far the better striker. even in torres best years he came second to rooney overall.
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 1 minute ago
A huge chunk?
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yes he spent pretty much three seasons between 06/09 on the left of a front three.
I'd love to see them stats and besides torres was up front alone with just gerrard in the team really, rooney played for the best team in the country and I would wager had a great deal more penalties.
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during the time torres was at liverpool? Not that many, ronaldo was our penalty taker for torres 3 full years at liverpool.
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your moving goal posts, I never said when torres was at liverpool.
Listen you said Rooney was easily better than torres and it wasnt worth debating, which was ridiculous.
Rooney in his time for united including probably a fair few pens, has scored at a rate of 0.48. torres at liverpool scored at a rate of nearly 0.64.
Easiest to go by and to keep at a standard level. When I said he fluctuates between scoring nearly 30 one season and 10 the next I meant league.
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ok but its a load of nonsense because the best way to judge a player is by what they have scored overall. Due to the fact, the goals they have scored overall are apart of their record
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 25 seconds ago
torres liverpool side came second. they were hardly bad.
youre talking full on rot lad and dont seem to have a scooby what youre on about. thats fine.
But rooney has a better record, at club and int level, and apart from one season has been far the better striker. even in torres best years he came second to rooney overall.
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second because of gerrard and torres near enough singlehendedly.
you said it wasnt worth debating but torres' 4 years at liverpool if broken down and much better than rooneys over 10 or so years.
0.48 to 0.63.
Worth debating, i'd still have rooney ahead of him no doubt but boy your talking rubbish.
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 11 seconds ago
Easiest to go by and to keep at a standard level. When I said he fluctuates between scoring nearly 30 one season and 10 the next I meant league.
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ok but its a load of nonsense because the best way to judge a player is by what they have scored overall. Due to the fact, the goals they have scored overall are apart of their record
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yes and no, peter crouch has a great record for england against minnows etc. A similar reason to what someone said earlier about the dutch league. League is a good basis but obviously rooney overall has had a longer and higher sustained level at one of the top clubs in the world.
your moving goal posts, I never said when torres was at liverpool.
Listen you said Rooney was easily better than torres and it wasnt worth debating, which was ridiculous.
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rooney was easily better in all but one season, and he didnt start taking pens till torres left liverpool
Rooney in his time for united including probably a fair few pens, has scored at a rate of 0.48. torres at liverpool scored at a rate of nearly 0.64.
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cosnidering in that period rooney scored more goals in less games his average will be better.
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 24 seconds ago
your moving goal posts, I never said when torres was at liverpool.
Listen you said Rooney was easily better than torres and it wasnt worth debating, which was ridiculous.
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rooney was easily better in all but one season, and he didnt start taking pens till torres left liverpool
Rooney in his time for united including probably a fair few pens, has scored at a rate of 0.48. torres at liverpool scored at a rate of nearly 0.64.
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cosnidering in that period rooney scored more goals in less games his average will be better.
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That doesnt make sense. Torres scored in 63% of his games, Rooney scored in 48% of his for utd.
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 39 seconds ago
No it isn't. Two strikers with over 40 goals between them, lots of players having had good seasons. Tell me how it's the worst England side for ages? What are you basing that on?
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40 goals in the worst pl for years.
because there good seasons arent as good as previous players seasons. we use to have a few world clas s players, we now have none. Our defence is chit our midfield is chit.
It's better than the last 3 England squads.
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It's weak but not so weak that their individual quality for this season hasn't come through. I mean, why wouldn't there be more strikers scoring closer or over 20 goals if it was just about the state of the league?
2010 - We had Green in goal, Upson in defence, Johnson as a full back, Heskey up front, an injured Barry in midfield. The Gerrard/Lamps combination. How is that any stronger than what we're bringing to the Euros?
2012 - Welbeck and Carroll as our strikers. Johnson again as full back, Ashley Young and Milner starting.
2014 - The less said about an aging Gerrard and Hendo combo in midfield the better. Johnson as full back for a third time.
2016 has the most in form players easily.
you said it wasnt worth debating but torres' 4 years at liverpool if broken down and much better than rooneys over 10 or so years.
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LOL either do rooneys over the same 4 year peroiod or do torres over the last 10.
comparing records from 4 years and ten years is ridiculous.
because whether you want to do it over 4 years or ten years, rooney has the better return.
League is a good basis but obviously rooney overall has had a longer and higher sustained level at one of the top clubs in the world.
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rooney has a much better cl record, even in the time torres was at his peak. highest standard of play.
and if int level is so easy against the minnows, why is torres record so mediocre, when he played in the one of the best int teams of all time?
That doesnt make sense. Torres scored in 63% of his games, Rooney scored in 48% of his for utd.
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right it does make sense if youre not a complete idiot but ill explain.
between 07 and 11 when torres joined and left liverpool rooney outscored him in less games. so will have a better than 0.63 average.
Over the course of both their careers eg when they started to now, rooney has a better record in less games.,
making sense now chief? its not too hard to grasp.
Meaning even when torres was at his very best, even in his lpool days, he was in fact, not as good as rooney.
thats without mentioning the fact that rooney has been far better over the course of his entire career.
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 3 minutes ago
you said it wasnt worth debating but torres' 4 years at liverpool if broken down and much better than rooneys over 10 or so years.
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LOL either do rooneys over the same 4 year peroiod or do torres over the last 10.
comparing records from 4 years and ten years is ridiculous.
because whether you want to do it over 4 years or ten years, rooney has the better return.
League is a good basis but obviously rooney overall has had a longer and higher sustained level at one of the top clubs in the world.
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rooney has a much better cl record, even in the time torres was at his peak. highest standard of play.
and if int level is so easy against the minnows, why is torres record so mediocre, when he played in the one of the best int teams of all time?
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good points. But now your debating . Well done.
You have to admit he carried liverpool, him and gerrard? He had things in his locker that as a striker were some of the best in the world. Sadly injury and stuff blighted him, and look what happened to him at chelsea.
I also don't know torres' CL record but I would imagine it was harder for him at Atletico(then) and liverpool to score goals then it was for rooney at a utd team challenging to win it.
Now we are debating. So it is worth debating for u
That liverpool side had xavi alonso, mascherano etc and finished 4 points behind us. they had a very good side. Also Im sure thats the liverpool side which hamemered madrid.
You can debate anything, however, some things are not worth it, like comparisson between rooney and torres because even at torres best, he managed one better season than rooney.
Id rather have ronaldo tevez vidic ferdinand evra VDS...then torres gerrard xavi alonso and mascherano is standard tbh. especially in his liverpool days
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 6 hours ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bergkamp <laugh
The guy scored about 9 goals a season
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Did he? Record books show he was 'Worlds Top Scorer' in 92, UEFA cup top scorer in 93/94, 3 times Eredivisie top scorer, top scorer at Euro 92, double figures in each of his first 4 PL seasons.
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The Dutch league
His record at Arsenal was crap.
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PL goals - Andy Cole v Dennis Bergkamp
95/96 - 11 v 11
96/97 - 6 v 12
97/98 - 15 v 16
98/99 - 17 v 12
If you had any knowledge of football you would know Bergkamp played deeper after this (as stated in the post).
At international level he out scored van Nistelrooy in a similar number of games.
Also you are judging the Eredivisie on today, the early 90s is incomparable.
Bergkamp out scored Romario in two of those three seasons, and they were level in the other.
Three strikers in your list who Bergkamp outperformed when he played as a striker
PL goals - Andy Cole v Dennis Bergkamp
95/96 - 11 v 11
96/97 - 6 v 12
97/98 - 15 v 16
98/99 - 17 v 12
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since when were league goals the only thing that coutns?
in nearly 400 games for arsenal he scored under 90 goals. his return was chit
Also you are judging the Eredivisie on today, the early 90s is incomparable.
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no it isnt it was still a poor league. ajax winning the cl which i know where youre going with this means nothing, porto won the cl, that doesnt make the portuguese league good either.
Also worth noting he was oted Worst serie A player during his time there
96/97 - 6 v 12
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Cole missed half a season with a broken leg ffs, of course bergkamp should of outscored him.
please for the love of god dont ever think DB was in coles league of goalscoring.
in 95 cole scored 27 in total. he only spent half a seaosn with us.
in 94 he scored 41.
and lets not even bother comparing them ebtween 97 and 2000.
Thoughts on the awful Bergkamp out scoring top ten since 1990 striker Andy Cole over a four year period when they both played as a striker in the PL?
Thoughts on Bergkamp out scoring top ten since 1990 RvN at international level, despite Bergkamp moving to a deeper role?
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posted on 27/5/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 21 minutes ago
depends when your comparing him too, rooney for a long period had alternate seasons(30 goals one year,10 the next) torres was devestating for atletico when they were not as good as they are now.
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No he wasnt. He was ok, some seasons mediocre. Youre talking to someone who knows his record here.
his second season for liverpool he scored 17 and third 22. thats not earth shattering or ground breaking.
hes never scored as many as rooney has in his best season, something rooney has achieved twice and rooney has never scored 10 goals in a season i dont know where you got that from.
torres in his time at liverpool scored 81 in 142, rooney scored 88 in 140 despite spending a huge chunk of that on the left wing to accomodate ronaldo.
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A huge chunk? I'd love to see them stats and besides torres was up front alone with just gerrard in the team really, rooney played for the best team in the country and I would wager had a great deal more penalties.
Torres was a fantastic striker, someone said Rooney was easily better, which was a scandalous thing to say. and BTW im a rooney fan.
posted on 27/5/16
rooney has never scored 10 goals in a season i dont know where you got that from.
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Sorry 12 in 08 in the league
12 in 09 in the league
11 in 2011 in the league
12 in 2013
12 in 2015
So near enough 10
posted on 27/5/16
No it isn't. Two strikers with over 40 goals between them, lots of players having had good seasons. Tell me how it's the worst England side for ages? What are you basing that on?
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40 goals in the worst pl for years.
because there good seasons arent as good as previous players seasons. we use to have a few world clas s players, we now have none. Our defence is chit our midfield is chit.
It's better than the last 3 England squads.
posted on 27/5/16
comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
rooney has never scored 10 goals in a season i dont know where you got that from.
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Sorry 12 in 08 in the league
12 in 09 in the league
11 in 2011 in the league
12 in 2013
12 in 2015
So near enough 10
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Since when were we only talking about league goals?
posted on 27/5/16
A huge chunk?
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yes he spent pretty much three seasons between 06/09 on the left of a front three.
I'd love to see them stats and besides torres was up front alone with just gerrard in the team really, rooney played for the best team in the country and I would wager had a great deal more penalties.
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during the time torres was at liverpool? Not that many, ronaldo was our penalty taker for torres 3 full years at liverpool.
posted on 27/5/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickalopodis (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
rooney has never scored 10 goals in a season i dont know where you got that from.
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Sorry 12 in 08 in the league
12 in 09 in the league
11 in 2011 in the league
12 in 2013
12 in 2015
So near enough 10
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Since when were we only talking about league goals?
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Easiest to go by and to keep at a standard level. When I said he fluctuates between scoring nearly 30 one season and 10 the next I meant league.
posted on 27/5/16
TBH Rooney's record is even more impressive when you consider for large parts of it he wasn't really playing as the no.9
The one season he did play quite a bit as a 9 is one of his best returns, struggling to remember the exact season but I think he was competing with Drogba for the golden boot towards the end.
posted on 27/5/16
torres liverpool side came second. they were hardly bad.
youre talking full on rot lad and dont seem to have a scooby what youre on about. thats fine.
But rooney has a better record, at club and int level, and apart from one season has been far the better striker. even in torres best years he came second to rooney overall.
posted on 27/5/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 1 minute ago
A huge chunk?
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yes he spent pretty much three seasons between 06/09 on the left of a front three.
I'd love to see them stats and besides torres was up front alone with just gerrard in the team really, rooney played for the best team in the country and I would wager had a great deal more penalties.
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during the time torres was at liverpool? Not that many, ronaldo was our penalty taker for torres 3 full years at liverpool.
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your moving goal posts, I never said when torres was at liverpool.
Listen you said Rooney was easily better than torres and it wasnt worth debating, which was ridiculous.
Rooney in his time for united including probably a fair few pens, has scored at a rate of 0.48. torres at liverpool scored at a rate of nearly 0.64.
posted on 27/5/16
Easiest to go by and to keep at a standard level. When I said he fluctuates between scoring nearly 30 one season and 10 the next I meant league.
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ok but its a load of nonsense because the best way to judge a player is by what they have scored overall. Due to the fact, the goals they have scored overall are apart of their record
posted on 27/5/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 25 seconds ago
torres liverpool side came second. they were hardly bad.
youre talking full on rot lad and dont seem to have a scooby what youre on about. thats fine.
But rooney has a better record, at club and int level, and apart from one season has been far the better striker. even in torres best years he came second to rooney overall.
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second because of gerrard and torres near enough singlehendedly.
you said it wasnt worth debating but torres' 4 years at liverpool if broken down and much better than rooneys over 10 or so years.
0.48 to 0.63.
Worth debating, i'd still have rooney ahead of him no doubt but boy your talking rubbish.
posted on 27/5/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 11 seconds ago
Easiest to go by and to keep at a standard level. When I said he fluctuates between scoring nearly 30 one season and 10 the next I meant league.
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ok but its a load of nonsense because the best way to judge a player is by what they have scored overall. Due to the fact, the goals they have scored overall are apart of their record
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yes and no, peter crouch has a great record for england against minnows etc. A similar reason to what someone said earlier about the dutch league. League is a good basis but obviously rooney overall has had a longer and higher sustained level at one of the top clubs in the world.
posted on 27/5/16
your moving goal posts, I never said when torres was at liverpool.
Listen you said Rooney was easily better than torres and it wasnt worth debating, which was ridiculous.
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rooney was easily better in all but one season, and he didnt start taking pens till torres left liverpool
Rooney in his time for united including probably a fair few pens, has scored at a rate of 0.48. torres at liverpool scored at a rate of nearly 0.64.
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cosnidering in that period rooney scored more goals in less games his average will be better.
posted on 27/5/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 24 seconds ago
your moving goal posts, I never said when torres was at liverpool.
Listen you said Rooney was easily better than torres and it wasnt worth debating, which was ridiculous.
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rooney was easily better in all but one season, and he didnt start taking pens till torres left liverpool
Rooney in his time for united including probably a fair few pens, has scored at a rate of 0.48. torres at liverpool scored at a rate of nearly 0.64.
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cosnidering in that period rooney scored more goals in less games his average will be better.
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That doesnt make sense. Torres scored in 63% of his games, Rooney scored in 48% of his for utd.
posted on 27/5/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 39 seconds ago
No it isn't. Two strikers with over 40 goals between them, lots of players having had good seasons. Tell me how it's the worst England side for ages? What are you basing that on?
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40 goals in the worst pl for years.
because there good seasons arent as good as previous players seasons. we use to have a few world clas s players, we now have none. Our defence is chit our midfield is chit.
It's better than the last 3 England squads.
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It's weak but not so weak that their individual quality for this season hasn't come through. I mean, why wouldn't there be more strikers scoring closer or over 20 goals if it was just about the state of the league?
2010 - We had Green in goal, Upson in defence, Johnson as a full back, Heskey up front, an injured Barry in midfield. The Gerrard/Lamps combination. How is that any stronger than what we're bringing to the Euros?
2012 - Welbeck and Carroll as our strikers. Johnson again as full back, Ashley Young and Milner starting.
2014 - The less said about an aging Gerrard and Hendo combo in midfield the better. Johnson as full back for a third time.
2016 has the most in form players easily.
posted on 27/5/16
you said it wasnt worth debating but torres' 4 years at liverpool if broken down and much better than rooneys over 10 or so years.
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LOL either do rooneys over the same 4 year peroiod or do torres over the last 10.
comparing records from 4 years and ten years is ridiculous.
because whether you want to do it over 4 years or ten years, rooney has the better return.
League is a good basis but obviously rooney overall has had a longer and higher sustained level at one of the top clubs in the world.
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rooney has a much better cl record, even in the time torres was at his peak. highest standard of play.
and if int level is so easy against the minnows, why is torres record so mediocre, when he played in the one of the best int teams of all time?
posted on 27/5/16
That doesnt make sense. Torres scored in 63% of his games, Rooney scored in 48% of his for utd.
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right it does make sense if youre not a complete idiot but ill explain.
between 07 and 11 when torres joined and left liverpool rooney outscored him in less games. so will have a better than 0.63 average.
Over the course of both their careers eg when they started to now, rooney has a better record in less games.,
making sense now chief? its not too hard to grasp.
posted on 27/5/16
Meaning even when torres was at his very best, even in his lpool days, he was in fact, not as good as rooney.
thats without mentioning the fact that rooney has been far better over the course of his entire career.
posted on 27/5/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 3 minutes ago
you said it wasnt worth debating but torres' 4 years at liverpool if broken down and much better than rooneys over 10 or so years.
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LOL either do rooneys over the same 4 year peroiod or do torres over the last 10.
comparing records from 4 years and ten years is ridiculous.
because whether you want to do it over 4 years or ten years, rooney has the better return.
League is a good basis but obviously rooney overall has had a longer and higher sustained level at one of the top clubs in the world.
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rooney has a much better cl record, even in the time torres was at his peak. highest standard of play.
and if int level is so easy against the minnows, why is torres record so mediocre, when he played in the one of the best int teams of all time?
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good points. But now your debating . Well done.
You have to admit he carried liverpool, him and gerrard? He had things in his locker that as a striker were some of the best in the world. Sadly injury and stuff blighted him, and look what happened to him at chelsea.
I also don't know torres' CL record but I would imagine it was harder for him at Atletico(then) and liverpool to score goals then it was for rooney at a utd team challenging to win it.
Now we are debating. So it is worth debating for u
posted on 27/5/16
That liverpool side had xavi alonso, mascherano etc and finished 4 points behind us. they had a very good side. Also Im sure thats the liverpool side which hamemered madrid.
You can debate anything, however, some things are not worth it, like comparisson between rooney and torres because even at torres best, he managed one better season than rooney.
posted on 27/5/16
Id rather have ronaldo tevez vidic ferdinand evra VDS...then torres gerrard xavi alonso and mascherano is standard tbh. especially in his liverpool days
posted on 27/5/16
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 6 hours ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bergkamp <laugh
The guy scored about 9 goals a season
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Did he? Record books show he was 'Worlds Top Scorer' in 92, UEFA cup top scorer in 93/94, 3 times Eredivisie top scorer, top scorer at Euro 92, double figures in each of his first 4 PL seasons.
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The Dutch league
His record at Arsenal was crap.
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PL goals - Andy Cole v Dennis Bergkamp
95/96 - 11 v 11
96/97 - 6 v 12
97/98 - 15 v 16
98/99 - 17 v 12
If you had any knowledge of football you would know Bergkamp played deeper after this (as stated in the post).
At international level he out scored van Nistelrooy in a similar number of games.
Also you are judging the Eredivisie on today, the early 90s is incomparable.
Bergkamp out scored Romario in two of those three seasons, and they were level in the other.
Three strikers in your list who Bergkamp outperformed when he played as a striker
posted on 27/5/16
PL goals - Andy Cole v Dennis Bergkamp
95/96 - 11 v 11
96/97 - 6 v 12
97/98 - 15 v 16
98/99 - 17 v 12
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since when were league goals the only thing that coutns?
in nearly 400 games for arsenal he scored under 90 goals. his return was chit
Also you are judging the Eredivisie on today, the early 90s is incomparable.
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no it isnt it was still a poor league. ajax winning the cl which i know where youre going with this means nothing, porto won the cl, that doesnt make the portuguese league good either.
Also worth noting he was oted Worst serie A player during his time there
posted on 27/5/16
96/97 - 6 v 12
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Cole missed half a season with a broken leg ffs, of course bergkamp should of outscored him.
please for the love of god dont ever think DB was in coles league of goalscoring.
in 95 cole scored 27 in total. he only spent half a seaosn with us.
in 94 he scored 41.
and lets not even bother comparing them ebtween 97 and 2000.
posted on 27/5/16
Thoughts on the awful Bergkamp out scoring top ten since 1990 striker Andy Cole over a four year period when they both played as a striker in the PL?
Thoughts on Bergkamp out scoring top ten since 1990 RvN at international level, despite Bergkamp moving to a deeper role?
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