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His advice to cabinet was leaked (any trade deal with the EU will take 10 years) and now hes been forced out 11 months early. The brexitears in cabinet don't like uppity civil servants speaking truth to power.
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Those damn pesky experts who had the impudence to predict that a trade deal with Europe would take years
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
His advice to cabinet was leaked (any trade deal with the EU will take 10 years) and now hes been forced out 11 months early. The brexitears in cabinet don't like uppity civil servants speaking truth to power.
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Is this the fella who's been described as the most experienced person we've got to go into negotiations following his years as an EU ambassador?
It's not just negotiations. Any final deal with the EU, will have to be ratified by the EU parliament, then put to all EU27, and 37 regional parliaments.
The House of Lords, as well as anyone with any experience of trade treaties, recognise a FTA could take many years.
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Coutinho
The very chap,
Farage saying he should be the first of many to go.
That right Nige, dump the guys that have inside knowledge on all the other states.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 21 minutes ago
Coutinho
The very chap,
Farage saying he should be the first of many to go.
That right Nige, dump the guys that have inside knowledge on all the other states.
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Thought so. It's a bizarre move. We're gong to need as much experience as possible in negotiations. From what I can gather Sir Ivan Rogers was just managing expectations regarding the timescale.
From what I can gather Sir Ivan Rogers was just managing expectations regarding the timescale.
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Exactly, spoke truth to power and is now out on his ear...An own goal of immeasurable proportions from a govt that hasn't got a clue.
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Cal
He was on ch4 news berating the Foreign Office and saying we need to clear the decks in preparation for Trumps presidency.
The more I listening him the more I think hes a 5th columnist.
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
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Most of the government are pro remain aren't they? Should they be sacked?
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
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Most of the government are pro remain aren't they? Should they be sacked?
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Was he sacked?
Neither you nor I know what brexit or remain would entail, but if the democratic mandate means anything, the govt has to follow the brexit line.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
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Most of the government are pro remain aren't they? Should they be sacked?
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Was he sacked?
Neither you nor I know what brexit or remain would entail, but if the democratic mandate means anything, the govt has to follow the brexit line.
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Sorry removed or replaced not sacked.
I'd imagine our ambassadors have also got the same mandate. That and handing out Ferrea Roche's.
Wanting the UK to fail, sneering at May, farage and the govt is all great fun for the leftist know it alls, but moaning like spoilt kids is boring and futile.
Keeps sizzle busy here, but nothing else.
I missed an R out of Ferrera Roche
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 8 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
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He was (along with Lord Harris) the most important civil servant the government had at their disposal.
His resignation does little to assist the UK.
When he set out the uncomfortable truth, that the government face an nearly impossible task, he was labeled (by the ignorant) as being pessimistic.
A cull of the UK's most experienced diplomats is hardly the best way to prepare for the most complex negotiation the UK has ever faced.
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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 32 seconds ago
Ferrero Rocher
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Yeah them as well
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
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Most of the government are pro remain aren't they? Should they be sacked?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was he sacked?
Neither you nor I know what brexit or remain would entail, but if the democratic mandate means anything, the govt has to follow the brexit line.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry removed or replaced not sacked.
I'd imagine our ambassadors have also got the same mandate. That and handing out Ferrea Roche's.
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Came to this late, so not sure if he was told to go, or walked, after saying trade deals would take a decade....thus giving remainers a semi.
Be honest, picking holes in brexit is a hobby for the wiser, nicer better people of remain.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 8 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was (along with Lord Harris) the most important civil servant the government had at their disposal.
His resignation does little to assist the UK.
When he set out the uncomfortable truth, that the government face an nearly impossible task, he was labeled (by the ignorant) as being pessimistic.
A cull of the UK's most experienced diplomats is hardly the best way to prepare for the most complex negotiation the UK has ever faced.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's akin to going into a battle, heavily outnumbered, with the odds against you, and getting rid of your best soldiers.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 8 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was (along with Lord Harris) the most important civil servant the government had at their disposal.
His resignation does little to assist the UK.
When he set out the uncomfortable truth, that the government face an nearly impossible task, he was labeled (by the ignorant) as being pessimistic.
A cull of the UK's most experienced diplomats is hardly the best way to prepare for the most complex negotiation the UK has ever faced.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rather arrogant to label critic's of Sir Ivan as arrogant....as the polls and economists have revealed, experts get it wrong.
Cameron tried to get a better deal with the Eu, and what did he get, with all the remain experts behind him?
Diddly squat.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 8 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was (along with Lord Harris) the most important civil servant the government had at their disposal.
His resignation does little to assist the UK.
When he set out the uncomfortable truth, that the government face an nearly impossible task, he was labeled (by the ignorant) as being pessimistic.
A cull of the UK's most experienced diplomats is hardly the best way to prepare for the most complex negotiation the UK has ever faced.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's akin to going into a battle, heavily outnumbered, with the odds against you, and getting rid of your best soldiers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or, a general who favours the other side.
It now seems he resigned......his call,,not a cull?
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posted on 3/1/17
His advice to cabinet was leaked (any trade deal with the EU will take 10 years) and now hes been forced out 11 months early. The brexitears in cabinet don't like uppity civil servants speaking truth to power.
posted on 3/1/17
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posted on 3/1/17
Those damn pesky experts who had the impudence to predict that a trade deal with Europe would take years
posted on 3/1/17
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
His advice to cabinet was leaked (any trade deal with the EU will take 10 years) and now hes been forced out 11 months early. The brexitears in cabinet don't like uppity civil servants speaking truth to power.
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Is this the fella who's been described as the most experienced person we've got to go into negotiations following his years as an EU ambassador?
posted on 3/1/17
It's not just negotiations. Any final deal with the EU, will have to be ratified by the EU parliament, then put to all EU27, and 37 regional parliaments.
The House of Lords, as well as anyone with any experience of trade treaties, recognise a FTA could take many years.
posted on 3/1/17
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posted on 3/1/17
Coutinho
The very chap,
Farage saying he should be the first of many to go.
That right Nige, dump the guys that have inside knowledge on all the other states.
posted on 3/1/17
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 21 minutes ago
Coutinho
The very chap,
Farage saying he should be the first of many to go.
That right Nige, dump the guys that have inside knowledge on all the other states.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought so. It's a bizarre move. We're gong to need as much experience as possible in negotiations. From what I can gather Sir Ivan Rogers was just managing expectations regarding the timescale.
posted on 3/1/17
From what I can gather Sir Ivan Rogers was just managing expectations regarding the timescale.
................
Exactly, spoke truth to power and is now out on his ear...An own goal of immeasurable proportions from a govt that hasn't got a clue.
posted on 3/1/17
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 3/1/17
Cal
He was on ch4 news berating the Foreign Office and saying we need to clear the decks in preparation for Trumps presidency.
The more I listening him the more I think hes a 5th columnist.
posted on 3/1/17
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
posted on 3/1/17
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most of the government are pro remain aren't they? Should they be sacked?
posted on 3/1/17
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most of the government are pro remain aren't they? Should they be sacked?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was he sacked?
Neither you nor I know what brexit or remain would entail, but if the democratic mandate means anything, the govt has to follow the brexit line.
posted on 3/1/17
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most of the government are pro remain aren't they? Should they be sacked?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was he sacked?
Neither you nor I know what brexit or remain would entail, but if the democratic mandate means anything, the govt has to follow the brexit line.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry removed or replaced not sacked.
I'd imagine our ambassadors have also got the same mandate. That and handing out Ferrea Roche's.
posted on 3/1/17
Wanting the UK to fail, sneering at May, farage and the govt is all great fun for the leftist know it alls, but moaning like spoilt kids is boring and futile.
Keeps sizzle busy here, but nothing else.
posted on 3/1/17
I missed an R out of Ferrera Roche
posted on 3/1/17
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 8 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was (along with Lord Harris) the most important civil servant the government had at their disposal.
His resignation does little to assist the UK.
When he set out the uncomfortable truth, that the government face an nearly impossible task, he was labeled (by the ignorant) as being pessimistic.
A cull of the UK's most experienced diplomats is hardly the best way to prepare for the most complex negotiation the UK has ever faced.
posted on 3/1/17
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posted on 3/1/17
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 32 seconds ago
Ferrero Rocher
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Yeah them as well
posted on 3/1/17
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most of the government are pro remain aren't they? Should they be sacked?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was he sacked?
Neither you nor I know what brexit or remain would entail, but if the democratic mandate means anything, the govt has to follow the brexit line.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry removed or replaced not sacked.
I'd imagine our ambassadors have also got the same mandate. That and handing out Ferrea Roche's.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Came to this late, so not sure if he was told to go, or walked, after saying trade deals would take a decade....thus giving remainers a semi.
Be honest, picking holes in brexit is a hobby for the wiser, nicer better people of remain.
posted on 3/1/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 8 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was (along with Lord Harris) the most important civil servant the government had at their disposal.
His resignation does little to assist the UK.
When he set out the uncomfortable truth, that the government face an nearly impossible task, he was labeled (by the ignorant) as being pessimistic.
A cull of the UK's most experienced diplomats is hardly the best way to prepare for the most complex negotiation the UK has ever faced.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's akin to going into a battle, heavily outnumbered, with the odds against you, and getting rid of your best soldiers.
posted on 3/1/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 8 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was (along with Lord Harris) the most important civil servant the government had at their disposal.
His resignation does little to assist the UK.
When he set out the uncomfortable truth, that the government face an nearly impossible task, he was labeled (by the ignorant) as being pessimistic.
A cull of the UK's most experienced diplomats is hardly the best way to prepare for the most complex negotiation the UK has ever faced.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rather arrogant to label critic's of Sir Ivan as arrogant....as the polls and economists have revealed, experts get it wrong.
Cameron tried to get a better deal with the Eu, and what did he get, with all the remain experts behind him?
Diddly squat.
posted on 3/1/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 8 minutes ago
Ivan Rodgers was pro- EU, so I can see why he was removed.......or, rep!aced.
Keep banging that elitist Remain drum though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was (along with Lord Harris) the most important civil servant the government had at their disposal.
His resignation does little to assist the UK.
When he set out the uncomfortable truth, that the government face an nearly impossible task, he was labeled (by the ignorant) as being pessimistic.
A cull of the UK's most experienced diplomats is hardly the best way to prepare for the most complex negotiation the UK has ever faced.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's akin to going into a battle, heavily outnumbered, with the odds against you, and getting rid of your best soldiers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or, a general who favours the other side.
It now seems he resigned......his call,,not a cull?
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