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posted on 27/1/17

Right..

So what are you going to curtail then?

posted on 27/1/17

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 23 minutes ago
Good to see our British and North American bonds are back on, after anti-brit Obama left........the man who armed the Saudi's to bomb Yemen, messed up in North Africa and the middle east, and tried to push us to the back of the queue.

By the way hec, not sure many refugees and migrants are moving west from Saudi Arabia.Sadly, money and oil rule, so like Obama, we may treat those fanatical islamists more favourably????



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Let us get this clear it was Republican Bush who let loose US troops in Iraq and all that came with it. Obama stuck with the plan to get them out of there.
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Libya?

Syria?

Yemen?

Isis

Palestine /Israel all on Obama watch.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 27/1/17

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by IAWT... or do we? (U10012)
posted 53 minutes ago
Just saying these attacks are more regular now, and the more it happens it will continue to divide people.
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I'm not even sure that they are tbh. At least not on Europe soil (or US for that matter). It might not be the case in Asia/middle East though.
They are just more reported because of the accessibility of information.
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5 mass killings in the last two years in Europe, there was 16 years before the 5 before that...
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Not suggesting it's not a problem but the stats show terrorist attacks in Europe between 2000 & 2016 were significantly less than the years before.

http://i0.wp.com/globalriskinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/terrorist_attacks_in_western_europe_since_1970_n-557x1024.jpg
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Compared to the previous decades a lot less, but these IS inspired attacks in Europe are a new thing.

posted on 27/1/17

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posted on 27/1/17

comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
"By the way hec, not sure many refugees and migrants are moving west from Saudi Arabia.Sadly, money and oil rule, so like Obama, we may treat those fanatical islamists more favourably????"

Not just Obama to be fair. Bush, Clinton, Bush senior etc etc, and the current incumbent. You could say it's a US governmental policy.
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Hec and others wonder why Saudi Arabia was not on the list of potentially dangerous migrants, linked to Isis etc.
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I asked why Trump wasn't banning visas from Saudi Arabia, as he is doing with Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya et al, earlier?

The biggest terrorist attack on US soil, with the biggest loss of life, was perpetrated by Saudi's.
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Yup, bin Laden and wahhibi Muslim lunacy preached globally from fundamental islamist Saudi is sickening .

They do not export many migrants though.

posted on 27/1/17

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
"By the way hec, not sure many refugees and migrants are moving west from Saudi Arabia.Sadly, money and oil rule, so like Obama, we may treat those fanatical islamists more favourably????"

Not just Obama to be fair. Bush, Clinton, Bush senior etc etc, and the current incumbent. You could say it's a US governmental policy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hec and others wonder why Saudi Arabia was not on the list of potentially dangerous migrants, linked to Isis etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I asked why Trump wasn't banning visas from Saudi Arabia, as he is doing with Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya et al, earlier?

The biggest terrorist attack on US soil, with the biggest loss of life, was perpetrated by Saudi's.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup, bin Laden and wahhibi Muslim lunacy preached globally from fundamental islamist Saudi is sickening .

They do not export many migrants though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
15 of the 19 that carried out 9-11 were from Saudi Arabia and managed to get visas easily enough.

posted on 27/1/17

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 8 minutes ago
TBAB

Did you get the chance to read any of the posts, which debunked the misconstrued notion that the UK will be in a position to negotiate FTA's any time soon?

Or the various links etc I had provided demonstrating how bad brexit is, and will be for NI?
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Not yet bud, in work from 7.30, but will read up over the weekend.
The courts in Belfast cast their verdict on brexit not threatening peace or the GFA, as shinners were claiming......debunked some of your theory.

posted on 27/1/17

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 10 minutes ago
Right..

So what are you going to curtail then?
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Their nasty badness...keep up😣

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 27/1/17

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 23 minutes ago
Good to see our British and North American bonds are back on, after anti-brit Obama left........the man who armed the Saudi's to bomb Yemen, messed up in North Africa and the middle east, and tried to push us to the back of the queue.

By the way hec, not sure many refugees and migrants are moving west from Saudi Arabia.Sadly, money and oil rule, so like Obama, we may treat those fanatical islamists more favourably????



----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let us get this clear it was Republican Bush who let loose US troops in Iraq and all that came with it. Obama stuck with the plan to get them out of there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Libya?

Syria?

Yemen?

Isis

Palestine /Israel all on Obama watch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you blaming Obama for these things?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He can take some part of the blame for all of them, same goes for us too.

posted on 27/1/17

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by IAWT... or do we? (U10012)
posted 53 minutes ago
Just saying these attacks are more regular now, and the more it happens it will continue to divide people.
-------------
I'm not even sure that they are tbh. At least not on Europe soil (or US for that matter). It might not be the case in Asia/middle East though.
They are just more reported because of the accessibility of information.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
5 mass killings in the last two years in Europe, there was 16 years before the 5 before that...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not suggesting it's not a problem but the stats show terrorist attacks in Europe between 2000 & 2016 were significantly less than the years before.

http://i0.wp.com/globalriskinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/terrorist_attacks_in_western_europe_since_1970_n-557x1024.jpg
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Compared to the previous decades a lot less, but these IS inspired attacks in Europe are a new thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup...I thought this was a given, tbh.

posted on 27/1/17

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posted on 27/1/17

TBAB, you have to curtail "something" so what is it that you're going to want to curtail to begin with?

posted on 27/1/17

comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 7 minutes ago
"By the way hec, not sure many refugees and migrants are moving west from Saudi Arabia.Sadly, money and oil rule, so like Obama, we may treat those fanatical islamists more favourably????"

Not just Obama to be fair. Bush, Clinton, Bush senior etc etc, and the current incumbent. You could say it's a US governmental policy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hec and others wonder why Saudi Arabia was not on the list of potentially dangerous migrants, linked to Isis etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I asked why Trump wasn't banning visas from Saudi Arabia, as he is doing with Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya et al, earlier?

The biggest terrorist attack on US soil, with the biggest loss of life, was perpetrated by Saudi's.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup, bin Laden and wahhibi Muslim lunacy preached globally from fundamental islamist Saudi is sickening .

They do not export many migrants though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
15 of the 19 that carried out 9-11 were from Saudi Arabia and managed to get visas easily enough.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry, I would have put Saudi regime on the naughty list.....thought I slated them, and in no way defended them or the wests view, but oil and money rule😠

posted on 27/1/17

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 23 minutes ago
Good to see our British and North American bonds are back on, after anti-brit Obama left........the man who armed the Saudi's to bomb Yemen, messed up in North Africa and the middle east, and tried to push us to the back of the queue.

By the way hec, not sure many refugees and migrants are moving west from Saudi Arabia.Sadly, money and oil rule, so like Obama, we may treat those fanatical islamists more favourably????



----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let us get this clear it was Republican Bush who let loose US troops in Iraq and all that came with it. Obama stuck with the plan to get them out of there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Libya?

Syria?

Yemen?

Isis

Palestine /Israel all on Obama watch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you blaming Obama for these things?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All on his watch...you decide.

Do you only condemn republican foreign policy, and let Hilary, Bill and Obama do what they want?

I condemned Bush, and Blair, as I am fair....what are you, cal?

posted on 27/1/17

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
TBAB, you have to curtail "something" so what is it that you're going to want to curtail to begin with?
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Bad stuff from nasty men😉

posted on 27/1/17

I was under the impression that ISIS were formed as remnants of supporters of Saddam Hussain (Sunni Muslims), and the weakening of Al Qaeda in the Middle East. Their contempt for the west is derived from us bombing Iraq after 9-11 and the Gulf war that preceded it.

I'm not an expert but that was the impression I got.

posted on 27/1/17

Republicans controlled the senate TBAB. They 'curtailed' a lot of what Obama wanted to do. Only right you should blame them.

posted on 27/1/17

TBAB

The Belfast case had nothing to do with the customs boarder. Totally unrelated.

On a side note the Dublin a50 case was filed today though.

In regard to trade agreements read the ascension process for WTO membership. It's not very long:

"Any state or customs territory having full autonomy in the conduct of its trade policies may join ( “accede to ” ) the WTO, but WTO members must agree on the terms."

https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/tif_e/org3_e.htm#join

The main point being "full autonomy in the conduct of its trade policies" The EU commission have intellectual property rights to the UK's trading schedules. It could take many years to firstly acquire these instruments, and have them re-written without EU statute.

Thankfully by the time the UK acquires its trading schedules, leaves the EU, renegotiates SM access, and rejoins the WTO, Trump will have served his time as POTUS.

Today's visit by May was nothing more than a PR exercise.

posted on 27/1/17

Comment deleted by Site Moderator

posted on 27/1/17

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 23 minutes ago
Good to see our British and North American bonds are back on, after anti-brit Obama left........the man who armed the Saudi's to bomb Yemen, messed up in North Africa and the middle east, and tried to push us to the back of the queue.

By the way hec, not sure many refugees and migrants are moving west from Saudi Arabia.Sadly, money and oil rule, so like Obama, we may treat those fanatical islamists more favourably????



----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let us get this clear it was Republican Bush who let loose US troops in Iraq and all that came with it. Obama stuck with the plan to get them out of there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Libya?

Syria?

Yemen?

Isis

Palestine /Israel all on Obama watch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you blaming Obama for these things?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He can take some part of the blame for all of them, same goes for us too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry but blaming Obama when it was Bush who started the fire is just plain stupid.
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Really, Mr Obama good.....Mr bush bad, eh?

Drones fired on Obama watch......targeting bin laden for a hit, arming Saudi's to attack Yemen, and the Libya disaster were Obama in power.
How did Obama fix Syria?...oh yes, he let Assad and Russia sort it, ffs cal.
Obama and Eu also stirred the pot in Ukraine....how did that go?

Democrats are as bad as republicans....grow up dude.

posted on 27/1/17

comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
I was under the impression that ISIS were formed as remnants of supporters of Saddam Hussain (Sunni Muslims), and the weakening of Al Qaeda in the Middle East. Their contempt for the west is derived from us bombing Iraq after 9-11 and the Gulf war that preceded it.

I'm not an expert but that was the impression I got.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My impression too, although more complex.

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 27/1/17

Obama withdrew troops too early from Iraq so what later became ISIS got a foothold, and then crossed the border and to take advantage of civil war in Syria.

posted on 27/1/17

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 6 minutes ago
Republicans controlled the senate TBAB. They 'curtailed' a lot of what Obama wanted to do. Only right you should blame them.
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You do fake news😁

posted on 27/1/17

Comment deleted by Site Moderator

posted on 27/1/17

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 5 minutes ago
TBAB

The Belfast case had nothing to do with the customs boarder. Totally unrelated.

On a side note the Dublin a50 case was filed today though.

In regard to trade agreements read the ascension process for WTO membership. It's not very long:

"Any state or customs territory having full autonomy in the conduct of its trade policies may join ( “accede to ” ) the WTO, but WTO members must agree on the terms."

https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/tif_e/org3_e.htm#join

The main point being "full autonomy in the conduct of its trade policies" The EU commission have intellectual property rights to the UK's trading schedules. It could take many years to firstly acquire these instruments, and have them re-written without EU statute.

Thankfully by the time the UK acquires its trading schedules, leaves the EU, renegotiates SM access, and rejoins the WTO, Trump will have served his time as POTUS.

Today's visit by May was nothing more than a PR exercise.
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Good PR, eh?

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