comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 7 seconds ago
I am guessing Nick, Man Python and Stretty are white and have never faced racism at all or to the levels I have or other ethnic minorities have. That's the only explanation I have.
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classic. When losing an argument spout some nonsense. Trying to pass off your experiences onto a totally seperate incident where we don't have all the details. Moron.
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Not really at all. You will never understand. That's the basis of it.
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Again nothing to do with anything, and being attacked soley because your white probably means you understand somewhat surely? But no need getting into that debate.

We're talking about an incident which we don't have any details and you're getting your knickers in a twist.

Strettyit's easy to sit back and say "suck it up" or whatever, much harder to try empathise with her situation, you might see it as harmless "banter" doesn't mean she has to.

comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 3 minutes ago
I am guessing Nick, Man Python and Stretty are white and have never faced racism at all or to the levels I have or other ethnic minorities have. That's the only explanation I have.
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Shut the feck up you soft twit
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yes I fecking love you

comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 7 seconds ago
I am guessing Nick, Man Python and Stretty are white and have never faced racism at all or to the levels I have or other ethnic minorities have. That's the only explanation I have.
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classic. When losing an argument spout some nonsense. Trying to pass off your experiences onto a totally seperate incident where we don't have all the details. Moron.
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Not really at all. You will never understand. That's the basis of it.
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Youre sensitive little girl arent you?

getting accused of being a brexit voter now, whose stereotyping now? Look at my posts regarding brexit if you want, might have to go back a ways.

Toplad painting everyone with the same brush, stereotyping fool

Again nothing to do with anything, and being attacked soley because your white probably means you understand somewhat surely? But no need getting into that debate.

We're talking about an incident which we don't have any details and you're getting your knickers in a twist.
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I'm alluding to the fact your think that the Northern accent thing and Caribbean accent are the same thing . How feckin stupid

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
It sounds like all these members of the England staff went to the David Brent School of Humour.
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nailed it Spurtle that's exactly who I thought of when I read the article, he's David Brent, probably tells that balck mans c**k joke all the time

comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 44 seconds ago
Goalkeeping coach investigated about speaking to aluko in a carribean accent.
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ridiculous.

No one would bat an eyelid if someone spoke in an english accent.

morons.
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What?

It was in a high profile and public workplace ffs.

Try doing it at your work and let us know how you get on
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It goes on in every workplace.

Where do you work? A fecking library
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Precisely
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Hilarious

comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 1 minute ago
Again nothing to do with anything, and being attacked soley because your white probably means you understand somewhat surely? But no need getting into that debate.

We're talking about an incident which we don't have any details and you're getting your knickers in a twist.
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I'm alluding to the fact your think that the Northern accent thing and Caribbean accent are the same thing. How feckin stupid
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What about welsh then? Because you alluded to it being to do with colour?

Your coming across as so thick. Starting to make me think your the racist in all of this.

comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 9 minutes ago
I am guessing Nick, Man Python and Stretty are white and have never faced racism at all or to the levels I have or other ethnic minorities have. That's the only explanation I have.
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By that ridiculous comment i take it you have no answer to my question.
Well done sensitive clown

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
It sounds like all these members of the England staff went to the David Brent School of Humour.
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nailed it Spurtle that's exactly who I thought of when I read the article, he's David Brent, probably tells that balck mans c**k joke all the time
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Yeah, you really can imagine David Brent putting on a Caribbean accent to one of his black workers as if it's a deleted scene from The Office.

No one get's to define what someone gets offended by, too many people think they can speak for another geneder / race.

Fact of the matter is a white man doesn't know what it's like to be ablack woman, therefore has zero right to say "suck it up".

Here's an analogy, I'm a Liverpool fan, if I wanted to (I wouldn't of course) I could start making jokes about Munich, thinking this is hilarious "banter".

United fans would rightly be very very angry with me, can I just go "suck it up" because I think it's funny laughing about what happened in Munich?

comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 44 seconds ago
Goalkeeping coach investigated about speaking to aluko in a carribean accent.
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ridiculous.

No one would bat an eyelid if someone spoke in an english accent.

morons.
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What?

It was in a high profile and public workplace ffs.

Try doing it at your work and let us know how you get on
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who gives a feck where it was.

its talking in an accent you fecking idiot
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Idiot?

From someone completely clueless about the law?

Ok then.

What a clown

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 seconds ago
No one get's to define what someone gets offended by, too many people think they can speak for another geneder / race.

Fact of the matter is a white man doesn't know what it's like to be ablack woman, therefore has zero right to say "suck it up".

Here's an analogy, I'm a Liverpool fan, if I wanted to (I wouldn't of course) I could start making jokes about Munich, thinking this is hilarious "banter".

United fans would rightly be very very angry with me, can I just go "suck it up" because I think it's funny laughing about what happened in Munich?
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Summed it up well. Especially when they haven't been through what the other person has.

What this thread needs is a voice of reason.

Unfortunately you have got me.

What this is, is:-

1. Stupid

2. Very insulting

3. Condesending

4. Ignorant.

What this isn't is racist. I can understand why some think it is and that is down to being brought up in this PC culture where offence is found under every single stone.

I read the article and the girl in question isn't claiming it as racist either.

These analogies being bandied around are missing the mark, a bit. He did a fake Caribbean accent, and she's not of Caribbean descent.

What's the connection between Nigeria and the Caribbean? It wouldn't be that the populations are both predominantly black, would it? Can anybody think of any other connection?

She probably wouldn't have made such a big deal about it, if there hadn't been other instances of dinosaur, boorish behaviour, and if the dinosaur FA understood that boundaries need to be drawn demarcating the difference between a coach and a drinking-mate.

The teaching profession has to do it, and if the FA had done it decades ago, maybe there wouldn't have been so many instances of physical abuse, either. Maybe have a routine procedure for dealing with complaints, other than trying to buy off their silence? You know, like, basic, 21st century professionalism in a multi billion pound sport.

She says "He may not have been aware of how annoying it got.". Oh, God, it makes me cringe, I can feel her pain

Stereotypes are formulas for brainless people to try being funny, and when she says "he may not have been aware of how annoying it got", you can almost hear the eejit going on and on and on, fondly believing himself to be engaging in "banter", and being about as funny as a traffic-light.

Not even realising, the cretin, that it wasn't even a very accurate stereotype of somebody of Nigerian descent, to say the least. The dinosaur FA needs to start being a bit more professional about what represents an appropriate relationship for a coach.

We've moved on from the days when people in positions of responsibility could fvck with people's heads for a laugh (or at least, we're trying to, and it's not even as if the "laughs" are worth it).

comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 seconds ago
No one get's to define what someone gets offended by, too many people think they can speak for another geneder / race.

Fact of the matter is a white man doesn't know what it's like to be ablack woman, therefore has zero right to say "suck it up".

Here's an analogy, I'm a Liverpool fan, if I wanted to (I wouldn't of course) I could start making jokes about Munich, thinking this is hilarious "banter".

United fans would rightly be very very angry with me, can I just go "suck it up" because I think it's funny laughing about what happened in Munich?
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Summed it up well. Especially when they haven't been through what the other person has.
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Yeah lets use an analogy of a tragedy where loads of people died to someone faking an accent. Jesus christ

Yet still no one has explained how faking a Caribbean accent is any different to faking a northern, welsh scottish etc etc

What people like toplad misconstrue about things like this is they don't differentiate between racial abuse, and saying something that is just stupid and put them in the same pot. Abuse is a terrible terrible thing and some of the things i've seen friends go through is woeful.

Nobody can tell someone else how to feel, but i'd feel the same if it was anyone, crying about say someone calling them a funny name, compared to verbally abusing them about their family or heritage.

But things like this that are (supposedly) not meant to be abusive there is no need getting your knickers in a twist about. Even by aluko's admission he is not meaning to be abusive.

But toplad would rather spout rubbish about other things that have happened to him, how self centered.

Isn't it funny how people seem to think they can decide for others as to what makes them angry or victimised in a work situation?

You don't get to decide for exactly that reason, hence there are workplace laws whether you think them appropriate or not.

Dearie me.

Is it racist to say "Feel the rhythm, feel the rhyme... coooool runinngs" in Sanka Coffie's accent?

wessie spot on with most of that, what I can't get it the nigerian woman and the carribean accent guy sounds like such a david brent

What's the connection between Nigeria and the Caribbean? It wouldn't be that the populations are both predominantly black, would it? Can anybody think of any other connection?
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That the descendants of Caribbean are slaves shipped over from Africa?

I don't think it is racist, but it is certainly stupid and ignorant. Another example of someone thinking that they are funny when they aren't and being overly familiar with a colleague.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
What this thread needs is a voice of reason.

Unfortunately you have got me.

What this is, is:-

1. Stupid

2. Very insulting

3. Condesending

4. Ignorant.

What this isn't is racist. I can understand why some think it is and that is down to being brought up in this PC culture where offence is found under every single stone.

I read the article and the girl in question isn't claiming it as racist either.
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Again though, the laws in place are there to ensure that employers abide by them and they have to demonstrate that there was no racism or any other form of "abuse" by having these types of incidents investigated. That's whether the "victim" thinks they were abused or not. It doesn't matter. It's down to the employer to demonstrate to all its workforce that this kind of behaviour isn't tolerated.

The only way they can do that is to have an internal investigation which as far as we all know is exactly what they are doing.

It's only "banter" if it goes both ways, if one party isn't enjoying the "banter" then it's not fun for them.
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so?