Titliv is the type of guy who doesn't care about facts WWSPD, Tories/brexit might aswell be Liverpool and everyone else is Man Utd... Nothing will shake his love support

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comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 31 seconds ago
I'm definitely envious of a guy who can get bribed for three times his own salary and get away with it yeah
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Arsenal fan envious of other guys finances

🤔


Yup that checks out 😜
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DISGUSTING

comment by Titliv - Ben Shapiro fanboy, and what about those milkers (U11882)
posted less than a minute ago
I can't even continue the troll, of course it's disgraceful what's happened today. This is how you lose elections so I wish they would just stop doing this stupid sheite.
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Oh 😣

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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 31 seconds ago
I'm definitely envious of a guy who can get bribed for three times his own salary and get away with it yeah
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Arsenal fan envious of other guys finances

🤔


Yup that checks out 😜
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DISGUSTING
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SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Titliv - Ben Shapiro fanboy, and what about those milkers(U11882)
posted less than a minute ago
I can't even continue the troll, of course it's disgraceful what's happened today. This is how you lose elections so I wish they would just stop doing this stupid sheite.
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Oh 😣
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To be fair to the lad that is top fishing.

Paterson, of course, voted on his own case, in favour of himself.

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
Paterson, of course, voted on his own case, in favour of himself.


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😂😂 just seen that there.

The Scottish tories too 😒

and this fud; https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-politics-59119114

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
Paterson, of course, voted on his own case, in favour of himself.


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Of course he did

comment by Titliv - Ben Shapiro fanboy, and what about those milkers (U11882)
posted 12 minutes ago
I can't even continue the troll, of course it's disgraceful what's happened today. This is how you lose elections so I wish they would just stop doing this stupid sheite.
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You got quite a few bites. I thought it was bloody obvious but never mind 😂

comment by Titliv - Ben Shapiro fanboy, and what about those milkers (U11882)
posted 17 minutes ago
I can't even continue the troll, of course it's disgraceful what's happened today. This is how you lose elections so I wish they would just stop doing this stupid sheite.
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What? That’s literally the only good thing about what’s happening

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Titliv - Ben Shapiro fanboy, and what about those milkers(U11882)
posted 12 minutes ago
I can't even continue the troll, of course it's disgraceful what's happened today. This is how you lose elections so I wish they would just stop doing this stupid sheite.
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You got quite a few bites. I thought it was bloody obvious but never mind 😂
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Course you did

SatNav has only one thing to say on the matter and it's "lol u mad bro"

If we’re getting back to the, “Well, yeah, these guys are terrible, and I didn’t want to have to vote for them; but the other lot would have been worse…” argument, are we all in agreement that any supposedly democratic system that only allows one of two political parties a way to power is broken and needs replacing with an upgrade then?

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Titliv - Ben Shapiro fanboy, and what about those milkers(U11882)
posted 12 minutes ago
I can't even continue the troll, of course it's disgraceful what's happened today. This is how you lose elections so I wish they would just stop doing this stupid sheite.
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You got quite a few bites. I thought it was bloody obvious but never mind 😂
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Course you did

SatNav has only one thing to say on the matter and it's "lol u mad bro"
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Re-read his post. It’s clearly trolling ffs don’t get all lemon because you fell for it

It's not clear, he had to say it was a troll before it became clear

Don't change the subject from Tory corruption, anyone would think you had an agenda to keep up

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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 3 minutes ago
It's not clear, he had to say it was a troll before it became clear

Don't change the subject from Tory corruption, anyone would think you had an agenda to keep up
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God you’re so lemon - have some gin & tonic with it, it’ll taste much better.

I’m not changing any subject. You’re the one that keeps talking about it, I’m replying to you.

comment by Titliv - Ben Shapiro fanboy, and what about those milkers (U11882)
posted 40 minutes ago
I stand by Owen against these horrible political attacks. Politics of envy alive and well in this thread.
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Yeah this is clearly serious 🧐

Ttliv

“ I'm a big fan of whoever wins the election gets the full and pretty much uninterrupted opportunity to enact their manifestos and if they fail or perform poorly it is completely on them.”

The last 10/11 years have taught us this isn’t working anymore.

comment by Titliv - Ben Shapiro fanboy, and what about th... (U11882)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Ross O'Bianchi (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
If we’re getting back to the, “Well, yeah, these guys are terrible, and I didn’t want to have to vote for them; but the other lot would have been worse…” argument, are we all in agreement that any supposedly democratic system that only allows one of two political parties a way to power is broken and needs replacing with an upgrade then?
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I'm not in favour of direct PR either though. If one party gets 49% and 7 different parties get various percentages adding up to 51%, they should not be able to form a coalition ahead of the party that got 49%. I'm a big fan of whoever wins the election gets the full and pretty much uninterrupted opportunity to enact their manifestos and if they fail or perform poorly it is completely on them. Basically I want one winner, and for it to be easier for non-established parties to build momentum, but not straight up PR.
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But that's not really politics, is it? Politics should be about compromise and finding ways to work together for the betterment of society.

And do you really win if you get less than 50% of the vote?

We’re very much an outlier in western democracies in persisting with FPTP.

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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 3 minutes ago
It's not clear, he had to say it was a troll before it became clear

Don't change the subject from Tory corruption, anyone would think you had an agenda to keep up
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God you’re so lemon - have some gin & tonic with it, it’ll taste much better.

I’m not changing any subject. You’re the one that keeps talking about it, I’m replying to you.
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"So lemon"

Is this something you learned today? 🤔

comment by Titliv - Ben Shapiro fanboy, and what about those milkers (U11882)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Ross O'Bianchi (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
If we’re getting back to the, “Well, yeah, these guys are terrible, and I didn’t want to have to vote for them; but the other lot would have been worse…” argument, are we all in agreement that any supposedly democratic system that only allows one of two political parties a way to power is broken and needs replacing with an upgrade then?
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I'm not in favour of direct PR either though. If one party gets 49% and 7 different parties get various percentages adding up to 51%, they should not be able to form a coalition ahead of the party that got 49%. I'm a big fan of whoever wins the election gets the full and pretty much uninterrupted opportunity to enact their manifestos and if they fail or perform poorly it is completely on them. Basically I want one winner, and for it to be easier for non-established parties to build momentum, but not straight up PR.
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I have no idea how you’d square that particular circle. Sounds inherently self-contradictory to me.

The bottom line is that most successful modern liberal democracies employ some form of PR now, recognising that it not only both delivers governments representing a wider proportion of the electorate and increases engagement and turnouts, but that it also actively encourages adult discussions and compromise politics, and leads away from the kind of polarised, flag-waving, inflexible doctrinaire bunkum currently on show (by large elements of both relevant parties) in the US, UK, Brazil and Argentina.