40 dead
Martial law imposed
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 11 minutes ago
Meanwhile, Dimwit Davis wants us to send air support ffs
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Whilst I suspect/hope any armed support would be coordinated through Nato, the chasm between UK/Russian military capabilities is enormous.
https://www.forces.net/news/russia-vs-britain-how-do-militaries-stack
Was also reflecting on the UK's initial sanctions announced the other day, and given Russia has been preparing for them for years, (and the three named Oligarchs subject to existing sanctions for a decade) they now look somewhat feeble, and a bit eleventh-hour.
https://news.sky.com/story/explosions-reported-near-kyiv-after-putin-authorises-military-operation-in-ukraine-ukraine-latest-12541713?postid=3407993#liveblog-body
Explosion
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
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That photo long ago got dismissed as fake.
The very last person to give a seconds thought to is Peks.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That photo long ago got dismissed as fake.
The very last person to give a seconds thought to is Peks.
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i'm one of the only ppl on this thread who gives balances arguments
behave hector lad
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That photo long ago got dismissed as fake.
The very last person to give a seconds thought to is Peks.
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i'm one of the only ppl on this thread who gives balances arguments
behave hector lad
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Posting misinformation is not “giving balanced arguments”.
wot you talking about Rosso lad
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
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i'm not saying that
but the Ukrainian Government and their army are no saints either
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No one said they were. But they’re not the ones being invaded by a superpower who says their country doesn’t exist.
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Russia will take pro-russian majority Donbass, like Crimea
They won't take the rest of Ukraine.
Ukraine will remain as a sovereign country,,,,,,but without option to join NATO
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To be fair, Ukraine would be fools not to join now.
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doubt the present pro-west government will be in charge for much longer
Putin wants a friendly Ukraine, like Belarus
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What Putin does *not* want is a liberal, free, democratic, prosperous Ukraine waving at Russian citizens from across the border.
If that’s what you mean.
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
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i'm not saying that
but the Ukrainian Government and their army are no saints either
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said they were. But they’re not the ones being invaded by a superpower who says their country doesn’t exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia will take pro-russian majority Donbass, like Crimea
They won't take the rest of Ukraine.
Ukraine will remain as a sovereign country,,,,,,but without option to join NATO
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair, Ukraine would be fools not to join now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
doubt the present pro-west government will be in charge for much longer
Putin wants a friendly Ukraine, like Belarus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What Putin does *not* want is a liberal, free, democratic, prosperous Ukraine waving at Russian citizens from across the border.
If that’s what you mean.
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if you mean he doesn't want a NATO nation the size of Ukraine on it's border , full of NATO weaponry pointed at Moscow
It's all a matter of perspective ....
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That photo long ago got dismissed as fake.
The very last person to give a seconds thought to is Peks.
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i'm one of the only ppl on this thread who gives balances arguments
behave hector lad
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You're pinging out old fake pictures chum.
Everything else You're just a wee weirdo but with Russia you're clued up and biased.
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Russia's view is that they're protecting the breakaway and majority pro Russian Donbass region from Ukrainian aggression
all a matter of perspective
Russia doesn't see it as an invasion
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
Russia's view is that they're protecting the breakaway and majority pro Russian Donbass region from Ukrainian aggression
all a matter of perspective
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Then they're wrong.
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
Russia doesn't see it as an invasion
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Then they're wrong.
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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Yeah yeah.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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Yeah yeah.
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balanced view is seeing things from both sides
these matters are never black and white issues
comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
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i'm not saying that
but the Ukrainian Government and their army are no saints either
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No one said they were. But they’re not the ones being invaded by a superpower who says their country doesn’t exist.
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Russia will take pro-russian majority Donbass, like Crimea
They won't take the rest of Ukraine.
Ukraine will remain as a sovereign country,,,,,,but without option to join NATO
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair, Ukraine would be fools not to join now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
doubt the present pro-west government will be in charge for much longer
Putin wants a friendly Ukraine, like Belarus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What Putin does *not* want is a liberal, free, democratic, prosperous Ukraine waving at Russian citizens from across the border.
If that’s what you mean.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What do you think living in Russia is like 2022?
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Illiberal, with state controlled media, no freedom of political speech or association, arbitrary arrest for peaceful political agitators and democracy campaigners.
No judicial independence or integrity. A bureaucracy, and police and security forces absolutely riddled with corruption.
A worsening situation economically for the country’s middle class and bottom third.
A miserable place for non-hetero people, religious minorities and, largely, racial minorities.
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 55 seconds ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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They also think Ukrainian soldiers are throwing themselves at innocent bullets and there is some sort of futuristic tractor-beam dragging tanks and Russian soldiers against their will into Ukraine.
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i'm not saying that
but the Ukrainian Government and their army are no saints either
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said they were. But they’re not the ones being invaded by a superpower who says their country doesn’t exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia will take pro-russian majority Donbass, like Crimea
They won't take the rest of Ukraine.
Ukraine will remain as a sovereign country,,,,,,but without option to join NATO
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair, Ukraine would be fools not to join now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
doubt the present pro-west government will be in charge for much longer
Putin wants a friendly Ukraine, like Belarus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What Putin does *not* want is a liberal, free, democratic, prosperous Ukraine waving at Russian citizens from across the border.
If that’s what you mean.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What do you think living in Russia is like 2022?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Illiberal, with state controlled media, no freedom of political speech or association, arbitrary arrest for peaceful political agitators and democracy campaigners.
No judicial independence or integrity. A bureaucracy, and police and security forces absolutely riddled with corruption.
A worsening situation economically for the country’s middle class and bottom third.
A miserable place for non-hetero people, religious minorities and, largely, racial minorities.
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that sounds like a large swathe of American society these days tbh
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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Yeah yeah.
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balanced view is seeing things from both sides
these matters are never black and white issues
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It's an invasion of a sovereign country, nothing black and white about it.
comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sane response to Ukraine conflict: We should sanction Russia, rearm and reinvest our military and defence and push towards energy independence with a combo of vast renewable expansion and maximising domestic fossil fuels.
Insane response: Let's enter a hot war with a nuclear power by threatening Russia with boots on the ground.
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This is a weird take on things. Can’t recall seeing any on here saying boots on the ground from U.K. troops.
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Robb suggested war with Russia yesterday.
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BMCL, said peacekeepers today. Fields showing his reading to be what we all knew.
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So when BMCL said peacekeepers he meant a hot war with a nuclear power as suggested by NPE.
Just Shoot showing his intelligence, or lack of, for what we all know it to be
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Follow my lead. Flattering
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Yes I did say NATO peacekeepers on the ground. Would’ve ideally been UN but that doesn’t work in such circumstances. That is not a “hot war” despite what those behind the grey curtain may claim.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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Yeah yeah.
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balanced view is seeing things from both sides
these matters are never black and white issues
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It's an invasion of a sovereign country, nothing black and white about it.
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you know it's not as simple as that. behave
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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Yeah yeah.
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balanced view is seeing things from both sides
these matters are never black and white issues
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It's an invasion of a sovereign country, nothing black and white about it.
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you know it's not as simple as that. behave
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Yes it is. Fuxsake.
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posted on 24/2/22
40 dead
Martial law imposed
posted on 24/2/22
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 11 minutes ago
Meanwhile, Dimwit Davis wants us to send air support ffs
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Whilst I suspect/hope any armed support would be coordinated through Nato, the chasm between UK/Russian military capabilities is enormous.
https://www.forces.net/news/russia-vs-britain-how-do-militaries-stack
Was also reflecting on the UK's initial sanctions announced the other day, and given Russia has been preparing for them for years, (and the three named Oligarchs subject to existing sanctions for a decade) they now look somewhat feeble, and a bit eleventh-hour.
posted on 24/2/22
https://news.sky.com/story/explosions-reported-near-kyiv-after-putin-authorises-military-operation-in-ukraine-ukraine-latest-12541713?postid=3407993#liveblog-body
Explosion
posted on 24/2/22
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That photo long ago got dismissed as fake.
The very last person to give a seconds thought to is Peks.
posted on 24/2/22
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That photo long ago got dismissed as fake.
The very last person to give a seconds thought to is Peks.
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i'm one of the only ppl on this thread who gives balances arguments
behave hector lad
posted on 24/2/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That photo long ago got dismissed as fake.
The very last person to give a seconds thought to is Peks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i'm one of the only ppl on this thread who gives balances arguments
behave hector lad
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Posting misinformation is not “giving balanced arguments”.
posted on 24/2/22
wot you talking about Rosso lad
posted on 24/2/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i'm not saying that
but the Ukrainian Government and their army are no saints either
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said they were. But they’re not the ones being invaded by a superpower who says their country doesn’t exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia will take pro-russian majority Donbass, like Crimea
They won't take the rest of Ukraine.
Ukraine will remain as a sovereign country,,,,,,but without option to join NATO
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair, Ukraine would be fools not to join now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
doubt the present pro-west government will be in charge for much longer
Putin wants a friendly Ukraine, like Belarus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What Putin does *not* want is a liberal, free, democratic, prosperous Ukraine waving at Russian citizens from across the border.
If that’s what you mean.
posted on 24/2/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i'm not saying that
but the Ukrainian Government and their army are no saints either
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said they were. But they’re not the ones being invaded by a superpower who says their country doesn’t exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia will take pro-russian majority Donbass, like Crimea
They won't take the rest of Ukraine.
Ukraine will remain as a sovereign country,,,,,,but without option to join NATO
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair, Ukraine would be fools not to join now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
doubt the present pro-west government will be in charge for much longer
Putin wants a friendly Ukraine, like Belarus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What Putin does *not* want is a liberal, free, democratic, prosperous Ukraine waving at Russian citizens from across the border.
If that’s what you mean.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
if you mean he doesn't want a NATO nation the size of Ukraine on it's border , full of NATO weaponry pointed at Moscow
It's all a matter of perspective ....
posted on 24/2/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That photo long ago got dismissed as fake.
The very last person to give a seconds thought to is Peks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i'm one of the only ppl on this thread who gives balances arguments
behave hector lad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're pinging out old fake pictures chum.
Everything else You're just a wee weirdo but with Russia you're clued up and biased.
posted on 24/2/22
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posted on 24/2/22
Russia's view is that they're protecting the breakaway and majority pro Russian Donbass region from Ukrainian aggression
all a matter of perspective
posted on 24/2/22
Russia doesn't see it as an invasion
posted on 24/2/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
Russia's view is that they're protecting the breakaway and majority pro Russian Donbass region from Ukrainian aggression
all a matter of perspective
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Then they're wrong.
posted on 24/2/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
Russia doesn't see it as an invasion
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Then they're wrong.
posted on 24/2/22
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
posted on 24/2/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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Yeah yeah.
posted on 24/2/22
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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Yeah yeah.
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balanced view is seeing things from both sides
these matters are never black and white issues
posted on 24/2/22
comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
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It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i'm not saying that
but the Ukrainian Government and their army are no saints either
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said they were. But they’re not the ones being invaded by a superpower who says their country doesn’t exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia will take pro-russian majority Donbass, like Crimea
They won't take the rest of Ukraine.
Ukraine will remain as a sovereign country,,,,,,but without option to join NATO
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair, Ukraine would be fools not to join now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
doubt the present pro-west government will be in charge for much longer
Putin wants a friendly Ukraine, like Belarus
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What Putin does *not* want is a liberal, free, democratic, prosperous Ukraine waving at Russian citizens from across the border.
If that’s what you mean.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What do you think living in Russia is like 2022?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Illiberal, with state controlled media, no freedom of political speech or association, arbitrary arrest for peaceful political agitators and democracy campaigners.
No judicial independence or integrity. A bureaucracy, and police and security forces absolutely riddled with corruption.
A worsening situation economically for the country’s middle class and bottom third.
A miserable place for non-hetero people, religious minorities and, largely, racial minorities.
posted on 24/2/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 55 seconds ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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They also think Ukrainian soldiers are throwing themselves at innocent bullets and there is some sort of futuristic tractor-beam dragging tanks and Russian soldiers against their will into Ukraine.
posted on 24/2/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbb Kanchelskis (U22716)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 3 seconds ago
photo of the ukranian military
http://www.belvpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/new_article.jpg
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s fun to post photos devoid of all context and in a disinformation war there’s zero guarantee it’s not part of a “hey, look, Putin was right about saving Russia from naaazism!’ plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i'm not saying that
but the Ukrainian Government and their army are no saints either
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No one said they were. But they’re not the ones being invaded by a superpower who says their country doesn’t exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia will take pro-russian majority Donbass, like Crimea
They won't take the rest of Ukraine.
Ukraine will remain as a sovereign country,,,,,,but without option to join NATO
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To be fair, Ukraine would be fools not to join now.
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doubt the present pro-west government will be in charge for much longer
Putin wants a friendly Ukraine, like Belarus
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What Putin does *not* want is a liberal, free, democratic, prosperous Ukraine waving at Russian citizens from across the border.
If that’s what you mean.
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What do you think living in Russia is like 2022?
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Illiberal, with state controlled media, no freedom of political speech or association, arbitrary arrest for peaceful political agitators and democracy campaigners.
No judicial independence or integrity. A bureaucracy, and police and security forces absolutely riddled with corruption.
A worsening situation economically for the country’s middle class and bottom third.
A miserable place for non-hetero people, religious minorities and, largely, racial minorities.
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that sounds like a large swathe of American society these days tbh
posted on 24/2/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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Yeah yeah.
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balanced view is seeing things from both sides
these matters are never black and white issues
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It's an invasion of a sovereign country, nothing black and white about it.
posted on 24/2/22
comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The goat did it (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NPE - Puns are for Prats (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sane response to Ukraine conflict: We should sanction Russia, rearm and reinvest our military and defence and push towards energy independence with a combo of vast renewable expansion and maximising domestic fossil fuels.
Insane response: Let's enter a hot war with a nuclear power by threatening Russia with boots on the ground.
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This is a weird take on things. Can’t recall seeing any on here saying boots on the ground from U.K. troops.
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Robb suggested war with Russia yesterday.
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BMCL, said peacekeepers today. Fields showing his reading to be what we all knew.
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So when BMCL said peacekeepers he meant a hot war with a nuclear power as suggested by NPE.
Just Shoot showing his intelligence, or lack of, for what we all know it to be
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Follow my lead. Flattering
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Yes I did say NATO peacekeepers on the ground. Would’ve ideally been UN but that doesn’t work in such circumstances. That is not a “hot war” despite what those behind the grey curtain may claim.
posted on 24/2/22
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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Yeah yeah.
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balanced view is seeing things from both sides
these matters are never black and white issues
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It's an invasion of a sovereign country, nothing black and white about it.
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you know it's not as simple as that. behave
posted on 24/2/22
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm not advocating what Russia is doing,just highlighting how things are being seen from their side
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Yeah yeah.
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balanced view is seeing things from both sides
these matters are never black and white issues
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It's an invasion of a sovereign country, nothing black and white about it.
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you know it's not as simple as that. behave
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Yes it is. Fuxsake.
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