Told to look for work they can do from home by Tory ministers who are trying to discourage working from home.

Atos will probably be back in the frame.

They used to conduct medical assessments for the Government until they were sacked following court action by disability groups.

They once deemed a man in a coma as 'fit for work'.

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comment by Peks Habsburg ES AT (U6618)
posted 35 minutes ago


Labour is No Longer in Opposition.

Jeremy Corbyn attempted to form a Social Democratic Party like Michael Foot led in 1983.

He was destroyed by the worst media hate campaign I've ever seen.
It's a One Party State.
FACT.
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eh?
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He’s saying that Labour is the same as the Conservatives
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Jeremy Corbyns Labour party and Michael Foots Labour Party were SDPs the same as the Consevatives were in 1983 and in recently?





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Lololol

No, not as the same in the 80s but if you think that the modern conservatives are proper conservatives then I cannot help you further.

His point is that both parties have betrayed what they stand for in order to appeal fully centrist and get in. Blair wasn’t Labour, Cameron wasn’t Conservative. That’s his point and he’s not wrong tbf
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but you have to hold the centre ground to get elected as not enough voters in the UK are going to vote for a left wing government and not enough are going to vote for a rightwi....... err hold on.... maybe there are!
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I agree. I’ve said that to proper Labour voters who hate Starmer and always have done that you need centrism to get in. Then you can change things more towards how you want things to be. The problem is that proper Labour voters, true left wing idealists (I don’t mean this as a criticism) are too true to what they believe in and they’re less likely to compromise to get in, unlike conservatives on the whole.

Don’t get me wrong I don’t appreciate the recent Tory governments from a conservative perspective at all but I’m more likely to vote Theresa May to stop Corbyn than Labour voters would vote Starmer to stop a proper conservative.

You’re right in that there aren’t enough pure left wingers in this country to vote a proper socialist type party in (currently), the country is generally more conservative than progressive / socialist etc.

Back in the day a more socialist approach was still relatively new and appealing but it failed so much across the world in the second half of the 20th century and beyond that it lost a lot of support. Hence a comprising social democrat position grew which aims to make the most of both but with an overall focus on average betterment across society. The problem with this is that this only seems to work with much smaller countries. Also these terms are far too broad to accurately depict any given country’s politics or economics.

Our country for example, many on here would adamantly say that it’s capitalist, others may say that it’s extremely capitalist pouting to growing gaps between the richest and the poorest or cronyism etc. But we have a huge welfare system, huge. We give everyone a fair shot (some have it better than others from birth sure), our tax system is pretty damn progressive. Yes big companies will get the headlines as to their lack of tax contributions but that’s not the whole picture either; they provide jobs which in turn pay taxes, they provide infrastructure, products, services all of which contribute greatly to the economy. But for the vast, vast majority of tax payers it’s progressive as hell.

Is it right that I should earn more than a nurse? Well, scarcity value dictates yes but morally? I’d say no. So in turn I pay a lot more tax than they do and I probably use the benefits of that tax less than they do. But I’m fine with that to a certain extent.

Right wing voters will always be pulled into choosing sides on an argument on things such as immigration, law enforcement, smaller government, lower taxes because that’s what they want but also I think they get further driven that way because left wing hyperbole ruins conversations of that nature and becomes so toxic that it entrenches these opinions a lot.

Right wing person talks about immigration and says we’re taking in too many people in this country, how often do they get labelled xenophobic or racist? Too often. And one of the consequences of that is that people will double down on it.

Neither left nor right are generally bad ideas, most of us want the same thing but disagree on how to do it or get there. We need progressives to push and challenge the status quo and bring about change and we need conservatives to keep what works still functioning and not have too many changes, too fast. It’s balance

Some may choose to pick on a sentence or wording or two from the above and try to create a fussy micro-debate but I’d urge them to take the post as a whole as I won’t engage on that.

We should all, as a race, start pushing for solidarity and not let the world governments, media etc keep us at odds with each others by focusing on the differences but focus on what we have in common and agree upon.

Israel Palestine - we all agree that we want a ceasefire, peace talks and eventually an agreement. So let’s focus on that rather than ‘who started it’ or ‘who is right?’ Solutions not blame game
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LOL what a load of uninformed complete tosh.

As a matter of interest what job do you do that is scarcer than qualified Senior Nurses and Nurse Practitioners which as as scarce as hens teeth atm.

https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1726873599493980632?t=OajoMcN8JQGpvluOINjhRA&s=19

They put 🇮🇪 on a post about Northern Ireland 🤠

This is a Zionist’s wet dream

https://x.com/nournaim88/status/1726914824603566291?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

Israel killed these two journalists in South Lebanon.

This would violate Article 79 of the Additional Protocol (I) to Geneva Conventions but it is clear that international law doesn't apply to Israel.


https://x.com/lowkey0nline/status/1726932918382236059?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

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posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Kahanism.

A new one on me.
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You should read up on Kahane. Horrible POS. Founded the JDL terror gang, amongst other things.

I did.

BREAKING: The national living wage will rise to £11.44 per hour from April

I just worked it out, a full time employee on that wage is now gonna be on £17.5k a year. That is crap.

comment by Dushane Hill (U11781)
posted 24 minutes ago
BREAKING: The national living wage will rise to £11.44 per hour from April

I just worked it out, a full time employee on that wage is now gonna be on £17.5k a year. That is crap.
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Full time workers will be on over 20k+

Aye you’re right, I worked it out wrong. Still a crap wage. Living wage in London is almost £14 an hour.

https://imgur.com/SGXO8KI

Breaking:

Jeremy Hunt expected to cut national insurance in Autumn Statement

Move will benefit 28m people - a 1% cut will cost £5bn & be worth up to £380 a year

But economists say people will still be worse off because of impact of fiscal drag


What a shiiit tax cut, what’s £7 a week pre tax gonna do for me

It's probably cause it's the only tax cut they can actually offer without making the situation even worse, so now they get to shout about how they reduced tax.

Don't think it'll win over too many people though.

City owner wants to buy the Torygraph and Spectator, he’s as much a fan of football as print journalism it seems

https://x.com/barneyronay/status/1727281395658063954?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

#Breaking The Israel-Hamas truce will take effect from 8am GMT on Thursday, Egypt’s state-run Qahera TV said

A bit weird, what makes you think the Sheikh doesn’t like football?

Never seen him down powerleague for a start

Also Arab just copies the exact text from the tweet he links and posts it here

Does it about 5-10 times a day, you must have noticed

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
A bit weird, what makes you think the Sheikh doesn’t like football?
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His attendance figures when you’ve played under his ownership over the last 15 years

Good work President Biden

Breaking:

Jeremy Hunt confirms that benefits will rise in line with September's inflation figure, by 6.7%

He described it as 'vital support' from a compassionate Conservative government


My heart bleeds

Jeremy Hunt announces cost of living measures 👇🏼

- benefits uprated at Sept inflation rate of 6.7% (rather than lower Oct rate)
- unfreezing local housing allowance
- freezing alcohol duty until next August
- state pension up by 8.5% (after govt considered lower increase)

More digs at Corbyn

You can't really rely on the counter factual that "Corbyn would have crashed the economy" when Truss actually did

Raising the state pension ain’t gonna do much when the now PM and ex PM has been caught wanting them to die during the pandemic