comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you and others believe that Henderson had a good World Cup, doesn't mean everybody has to follow the same narrative
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When the vast majority believe he’s had a good World Cup and he’s being praised by professionals who have played the game then you’ve got to question those who think differently.
Only those in England rate him. Nobody outside of England does. I couldn't care less that a high ish percentage of England fans thought he was good
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comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 48 seconds ago
Only those in England rate him. Nobody outside of England does. I couldn't care less that a high ish percentage of England fans thought he was good
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Yes, you know better.
Despite England's record with him in the teams
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 2 minutes ago
Only those in England rate him. Nobody outside of England does. I couldn't care less that a high ish percentage of England fans thought he was good
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How do you know nobody outside of England rate Henderson?
We’ve just had to endure Dier and Delph for 45 mins together and Henderson looked better on his own!
Because the only people I've ever seen praise Henderson are English. I've seen various foreign outlets, former players, fans etc. rate other England players, never Henderson
Regardless, I should be able to have an opinion on somebody that goes against public opinion. Should we all be sheep?
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 4 minutes ago
Only those in England rate him. Nobody outside of England does. I couldn't care less that a high ish percentage of England fans thought he was good
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Every body rates him, otherwise they're idiots. He's just captained his club to a CL final and until recently was captaining his country who went to a World Cup semi final. When was the last time England lost a game in 90 minutes when he played?
In that case you should rate Pogba, Ozil, Sterling, etc but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't. They've all achieved more in the game than Henderson
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 38 seconds ago
In that case you should rate Pogba, Ozil, Sterling, etc but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't. They've all achieved more in the game than Henderson
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They’ve achieved more than most in the game including one of your own.
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comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 38 seconds ago
In that case you should rate Pogba, Ozil, Sterling, etc but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't. They've all achieved more in the game than Henderson
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They’ve achieved more than most in the game including one of your own.
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Must be.
Like I said I think blame is being deflected here. Alli and Lingard have been poor, as has Dier when he’s come on. Of our midfielders Henderson is the least deserving of criticism.
Huge gulf in midfield class on show today. Lack of guile on midfield again meant more crosses into the box and set pieces. Such basic football.
I don’t get the hype around Loftus-Cheek. Think he’s nothing special at all.
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 46 minutes ago
Like I said I think blame is being deflected here. Alli and Lingard have been poor, as has Dier when he’s come on. Of our midfielders Henderson is the least deserving of criticism.
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Of course it is.
Alli had an abysmal tournament.
The OP obviously has an agenda. He has a point about the paucity of depth England has in Central midfield positions, but after this tournament Henderson can hold his head high.
England simply don't lose when Hendo plays. The OP fails to recognise this fact.
No agenda whatsoever. I can admit that Dele has never done well for England. Other fans tend to be more deluded when it comes to their clubs' players
England were never behind when Henderson was on the pitch.
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
No agenda whatsoever. I can admit that Dele has never done well for England. Other fans tend to be more deluded when it comes to their clubs' players
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Saying Henderson has had a good World Cup is deluded?
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
In that case you should rate Pogba, Ozil, Sterling, etc but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't. They've all achieved more in the game than Henderson
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I don't see what they have to do with it but yes of course I rate them. They're professional footballers playing for top clubs and countries. How could you not rate them?
Yes Pogba has been below par for United but he has shown at Juve and France he is a top player. Same can be said of Ozil who I rate less than the other two due to his lackadaisical look on the pitch. Sterling just banged in goals and assists left, right and centre last season at a rate probably nobody his age is doing at that level in the world.
Perhaps you just don't rate anybody but Spurs players or you don't understand much about football? A combination of the two maybe?
I rate plenty of players including the likes of Pogba, Ozil, Sterling etc but Henderson is not one of them. For some reason this seems to cause you such offence? Nothing to do with Spurs whatsoever. Very childish to dismiss somebody's football knowledge just because they don't happen to agree with you
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 51 seconds ago
I rate plenty of players including the likes of Pogba, Ozil, Sterling etc but Henderson is not one of them. For some reason this seems to cause you such offence? Nothing to do with Spurs whatsoever. Very childish to dismiss somebody's football knowledge just because they don't happen to agree with you
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So you don’t rate a player that’s made it to.
The Europa league final.
The league cup final.
The champions league final.
All in the last 3 seasons?
World Cup semi final.
No. Is that a problem?
Sissoko played in a European championships final and I don't rate him either
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 51 seconds ago
I rate plenty of players including the likes of Pogba, Ozil, Sterling etc but Henderson is not one of them. For some reason this seems to cause you such offence? Nothing to do with Spurs whatsoever. Very childish to dismiss somebody's football knowledge just because they don't happen to agree with you
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So you don’t rate a player that’s made it to.
The Europa league final.
The league cup final.
The champions league final.
All in the last 3 seasons?
World Cup semi final.
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Ramires made it to a champions league final, Europa league final and an FA Cup final and I don't rate him.
comment by Mr Chelsea. (U3579)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 51 seconds ago
I rate plenty of players including the likes of Pogba, Ozil, Sterling etc but Henderson is not one of them. For some reason this seems to cause you such offence? Nothing to do with Spurs whatsoever. Very childish to dismiss somebody's football knowledge just because they don't happen to agree with you
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So you don’t rate a player that’s made it to.
The Europa league final.
The league cup final.
The champions league final.
All in the last 3 seasons?
World Cup semi final.
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Ramires made it to a champions league final, Europa league final and an FA Cup final and I don't rate him.
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Did he captain the side to those finals?
Simple fact is that countless managers both at club level and international level have continued to play him.
That in essence says he’s sort of alright at his chosen profession.
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posted on 14/7/18
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah but just because you and others believe that Henderson had a good World Cup, doesn't mean everybody has to follow the same narrative
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When the vast majority believe he’s had a good World Cup and he’s being praised by professionals who have played the game then you’ve got to question those who think differently.
posted on 14/7/18
Only those in England rate him. Nobody outside of England does. I couldn't care less that a high ish percentage of England fans thought he was good
posted on 14/7/18
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posted on 14/7/18
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 48 seconds ago
Only those in England rate him. Nobody outside of England does. I couldn't care less that a high ish percentage of England fans thought he was good
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Yes, you know better.
Despite England's record with him in the teams
posted on 14/7/18
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 2 minutes ago
Only those in England rate him. Nobody outside of England does. I couldn't care less that a high ish percentage of England fans thought he was good
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How do you know nobody outside of England rate Henderson?
posted on 14/7/18
We’ve just had to endure Dier and Delph for 45 mins together and Henderson looked better on his own!
posted on 14/7/18
Because the only people I've ever seen praise Henderson are English. I've seen various foreign outlets, former players, fans etc. rate other England players, never Henderson
Regardless, I should be able to have an opinion on somebody that goes against public opinion. Should we all be sheep?
posted on 14/7/18
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 4 minutes ago
Only those in England rate him. Nobody outside of England does. I couldn't care less that a high ish percentage of England fans thought he was good
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Every body rates him, otherwise they're idiots. He's just captained his club to a CL final and until recently was captaining his country who went to a World Cup semi final. When was the last time England lost a game in 90 minutes when he played?
posted on 14/7/18
In that case you should rate Pogba, Ozil, Sterling, etc but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't. They've all achieved more in the game than Henderson
posted on 14/7/18
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 38 seconds ago
In that case you should rate Pogba, Ozil, Sterling, etc but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't. They've all achieved more in the game than Henderson
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They’ve achieved more than most in the game including one of your own.
posted on 14/7/18
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posted on 14/7/18
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 38 seconds ago
In that case you should rate Pogba, Ozil, Sterling, etc but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't. They've all achieved more in the game than Henderson
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They’ve achieved more than most in the game including one of your own.
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Must be.
posted on 14/7/18
Like I said I think blame is being deflected here. Alli and Lingard have been poor, as has Dier when he’s come on. Of our midfielders Henderson is the least deserving of criticism.
posted on 14/7/18
Huge gulf in midfield class on show today. Lack of guile on midfield again meant more crosses into the box and set pieces. Such basic football.
I don’t get the hype around Loftus-Cheek. Think he’s nothing special at all.
posted on 14/7/18
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 46 minutes ago
Like I said I think blame is being deflected here. Alli and Lingard have been poor, as has Dier when he’s come on. Of our midfielders Henderson is the least deserving of criticism.
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Of course it is.
Alli had an abysmal tournament.
The OP obviously has an agenda. He has a point about the paucity of depth England has in Central midfield positions, but after this tournament Henderson can hold his head high.
England simply don't lose when Hendo plays. The OP fails to recognise this fact.
posted on 14/7/18
No agenda whatsoever. I can admit that Dele has never done well for England. Other fans tend to be more deluded when it comes to their clubs' players
posted on 14/7/18
England were never behind when Henderson was on the pitch.
posted on 14/7/18
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
No agenda whatsoever. I can admit that Dele has never done well for England. Other fans tend to be more deluded when it comes to their clubs' players
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Saying Henderson has had a good World Cup is deluded?
posted on 14/7/18
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
In that case you should rate Pogba, Ozil, Sterling, etc but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't. They've all achieved more in the game than Henderson
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I don't see what they have to do with it but yes of course I rate them. They're professional footballers playing for top clubs and countries. How could you not rate them?
Yes Pogba has been below par for United but he has shown at Juve and France he is a top player. Same can be said of Ozil who I rate less than the other two due to his lackadaisical look on the pitch. Sterling just banged in goals and assists left, right and centre last season at a rate probably nobody his age is doing at that level in the world.
Perhaps you just don't rate anybody but Spurs players or you don't understand much about football? A combination of the two maybe?
posted on 14/7/18
I rate plenty of players including the likes of Pogba, Ozil, Sterling etc but Henderson is not one of them. For some reason this seems to cause you such offence? Nothing to do with Spurs whatsoever. Very childish to dismiss somebody's football knowledge just because they don't happen to agree with you
posted on 14/7/18
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 51 seconds ago
I rate plenty of players including the likes of Pogba, Ozil, Sterling etc but Henderson is not one of them. For some reason this seems to cause you such offence? Nothing to do with Spurs whatsoever. Very childish to dismiss somebody's football knowledge just because they don't happen to agree with you
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So you don’t rate a player that’s made it to.
The Europa league final.
The league cup final.
The champions league final.
All in the last 3 seasons?
World Cup semi final.
posted on 14/7/18
No. Is that a problem?
Sissoko played in a European championships final and I don't rate him either
posted on 14/7/18
posted on 14/7/18
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 51 seconds ago
I rate plenty of players including the likes of Pogba, Ozil, Sterling etc but Henderson is not one of them. For some reason this seems to cause you such offence? Nothing to do with Spurs whatsoever. Very childish to dismiss somebody's football knowledge just because they don't happen to agree with you
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So you don’t rate a player that’s made it to.
The Europa league final.
The league cup final.
The champions league final.
All in the last 3 seasons?
World Cup semi final.
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Ramires made it to a champions league final, Europa league final and an FA Cup final and I don't rate him.
posted on 14/7/18
comment by Mr Chelsea. (U3579)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 51 seconds ago
I rate plenty of players including the likes of Pogba, Ozil, Sterling etc but Henderson is not one of them. For some reason this seems to cause you such offence? Nothing to do with Spurs whatsoever. Very childish to dismiss somebody's football knowledge just because they don't happen to agree with you
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So you don’t rate a player that’s made it to.
The Europa league final.
The league cup final.
The champions league final.
All in the last 3 seasons?
World Cup semi final.
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Ramires made it to a champions league final, Europa league final and an FA Cup final and I don't rate him.
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Did he captain the side to those finals?
Simple fact is that countless managers both at club level and international level have continued to play him.
That in essence says he’s sort of alright at his chosen profession.
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