Nonsense.
How could he repeatedly claim that he couldn't breathe if he couldn't breathe?
They will convict him of murder and rightly so.
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
There's a lot of untruths in this article.
Firstly 'just doing his job' isn't going to cut it. If third degree murder is proven he can be charged with second degree murder simply because he has therefore committed a felony which lead to the death of a person, which is second degree murder. It does not need proven that he intended to kill.
comment by HB Fash - "like a pack of cards" (U21935)
posted 5 minutes ago
They will convict him of murder and rightly so.
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
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Yes, IMO he’ll be convicted of 3rd degree murder and second degree manslaughter
But NOT 2nd degree murder
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
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How does that work? If the evidence is presented and a jury of his peers determine that there's not enough evidence to safely convict him of second degree murder? Are we just accepting mob rule over the rule of law now?
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
There's a lot of untruths in this article.
Firstly 'just doing his job' isn't going to cut it. If third degree murder is proven he can be charged with second degree murder simply because he has therefore committed a felony which lead to the death of a person, which is second degree murder. It does not need proven that he intended to kill.
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The defence will argue, him doing his job is in its self not a crime - it’s the wording that’s all important
It was as though he was robbing a bank and someone unintentionally got killed - which is what 2nd degree murder is about because a crime was being committed
The defence will say that he was undertaking his role as a police officer, where someone unfortunately died in the process - that’s what the decision will hang on
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 seconds ago
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
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How does that work? If the evidence is presented and a jury of his peers determine that there's not enough evidence to safely convict him of second degree murder? Are we just accepting mob rule over the rule of law now?
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Are you saying the law cannot be wrong?
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 38 seconds ago
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
-
How does that work? If the evidence is presented and a jury of his peers determine that there's not enough evidence to safely convict him of second degree murder? Are we just accepting mob rule over the rule of law now?
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Yes I agree - it will be just the excuse for all the usua mobsters and trouble causes to reek havoc
Don’t want to stir the pot but not sure if a rumour, but I read it wasn’t actually his cause of death was it? Or was that nonsense?
comment by HB Fash - "like a pack of cards" (U21935)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 seconds ago
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
-
How does that work? If the evidence is presented and a jury of his peers determine that there's not enough evidence to safely convict him of second degree murder? Are we just accepting mob rule over the rule of law now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you saying the law cannot be wrong?
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No, that's not what I am saying. I think it was pretty clear what point I was making.
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------
Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.
Why do you think that is?
a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.
Why do you think that is?
-
Toxic masculinity in the black community.
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 29 minutes ago
merica lol
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Thank goodness that their scrawny, dentally challenged cousins across the pond are here to provide morally superior guidance
Sky Ch 524 are providing full coverage of the trial if anyone is interested.
Based on the evidence to date, Chavin will be found guilty. Just depends on the sentence IMO. Some of the bodycam footage in coordination with witness, and medical/academic testimony is damning.
For example even when Floyd was lying prostrate, one of the officers can be heard informing Chauvin, Floyd had no pulse, and his response was "just leave him there."
So even if the Jury believe Chauvin killed Floyd accidentally, (manslaughter) his actions afterwards might lead to a more severe charge, as there was no intent to save him.
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 29 minutes ago
merica lol
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Thank goodness that their scrawny, dentally challenged cousins across the pond are here to provide morally superior guidance
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Don’t get the dental thing.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 27 seconds ago
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Don’t get the dental thing.
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liverpool fans (and managers) are notoriously sensitive about teeth
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 27 seconds ago
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Don’t get the dental thing.
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liverpool fans (and managers) are notoriously sensitive about teeth
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*teeths
If i was an American Policeman and a convicted felon was resisting arrest, id take any force necessary.
But thats just my opinion.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------
Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.
Why do you think that is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
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*teeths
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i thought it was only pluralised when it's the reason for a player failing a medical?
you may be right, though i am aware that i have taken this ever so slightly off topic.
The evidence given against including everyone from his boss to the coroner hasn't gone well for him.
Good.
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------
Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.
Why do you think that is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poorer communities more likely to be involved in crime, is this a surprise?
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THE GEORGE FLOYD CASE
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posted on 14/4/21
posted on 14/4/21
PC gone mad
posted on 14/4/21
merica lol
posted on 14/4/21
Nonsense.
How could he repeatedly claim that he couldn't breathe if he couldn't breathe?
posted on 14/4/21
They will convict him of murder and rightly so.
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
posted on 14/4/21
There's a lot of untruths in this article.
Firstly 'just doing his job' isn't going to cut it. If third degree murder is proven he can be charged with second degree murder simply because he has therefore committed a felony which lead to the death of a person, which is second degree murder. It does not need proven that he intended to kill.
posted on 14/4/21
comment by HB Fash - "like a pack of cards" (U21935)
posted 5 minutes ago
They will convict him of murder and rightly so.
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, IMO he’ll be convicted of 3rd degree murder and second degree manslaughter
But NOT 2nd degree murder
posted on 14/4/21
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
-
How does that work? If the evidence is presented and a jury of his peers determine that there's not enough evidence to safely convict him of second degree murder? Are we just accepting mob rule over the rule of law now?
posted on 14/4/21
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
There's a lot of untruths in this article.
Firstly 'just doing his job' isn't going to cut it. If third degree murder is proven he can be charged with second degree murder simply because he has therefore committed a felony which lead to the death of a person, which is second degree murder. It does not need proven that he intended to kill.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The defence will argue, him doing his job is in its self not a crime - it’s the wording that’s all important
It was as though he was robbing a bank and someone unintentionally got killed - which is what 2nd degree murder is about because a crime was being committed
The defence will say that he was undertaking his role as a police officer, where someone unfortunately died in the process - that’s what the decision will hang on
posted on 14/4/21
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 seconds ago
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
-
How does that work? If the evidence is presented and a jury of his peers determine that there's not enough evidence to safely convict him of second degree murder? Are we just accepting mob rule over the rule of law now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you saying the law cannot be wrong?
posted on 14/4/21
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 38 seconds ago
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
-
How does that work? If the evidence is presented and a jury of his peers determine that there's not enough evidence to safely convict him of second degree murder? Are we just accepting mob rule over the rule of law now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I agree - it will be just the excuse for all the usua mobsters and trouble causes to reek havoc
posted on 14/4/21
Don’t want to stir the pot but not sure if a rumour, but I read it wasn’t actually his cause of death was it? Or was that nonsense?
posted on 14/4/21
comment by HB Fash - "like a pack of cards" (U21935)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 seconds ago
If they don't, all hell will break loose for a while and so it should.
-
How does that work? If the evidence is presented and a jury of his peers determine that there's not enough evidence to safely convict him of second degree murder? Are we just accepting mob rule over the rule of law now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you saying the law cannot be wrong?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, that's not what I am saying. I think it was pretty clear what point I was making.
posted on 14/4/21
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------
Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.
Why do you think that is?
posted on 14/4/21
a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.
Why do you think that is?
-
Toxic masculinity in the black community.
posted on 14/4/21
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 29 minutes ago
merica lol
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank goodness that their scrawny, dentally challenged cousins across the pond are here to provide morally superior guidance
posted on 14/4/21
Sky Ch 524 are providing full coverage of the trial if anyone is interested.
Based on the evidence to date, Chavin will be found guilty. Just depends on the sentence IMO. Some of the bodycam footage in coordination with witness, and medical/academic testimony is damning.
For example even when Floyd was lying prostrate, one of the officers can be heard informing Chauvin, Floyd had no pulse, and his response was "just leave him there."
So even if the Jury believe Chauvin killed Floyd accidentally, (manslaughter) his actions afterwards might lead to a more severe charge, as there was no intent to save him.
posted on 14/4/21
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 29 minutes ago
merica lol
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Thank goodness that their scrawny, dentally challenged cousins across the pond are here to provide morally superior guidance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don’t get the dental thing.
posted on 14/4/21
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 27 seconds ago
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Don’t get the dental thing.
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liverpool fans (and managers) are notoriously sensitive about teeth
posted on 14/4/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 27 seconds ago
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Don’t get the dental thing.
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liverpool fans (and managers) are notoriously sensitive about teeth
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*teeths
posted on 14/4/21
If i was an American Policeman and a convicted felon was resisting arrest, id take any force necessary.
But thats just my opinion.
posted on 14/4/21
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------
Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.
Why do you think that is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
posted on 14/4/21
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
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*teeths
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i thought it was only pluralised when it's the reason for a player failing a medical?
you may be right, though i am aware that i have taken this ever so slightly off topic.
posted on 14/4/21
The evidence given against including everyone from his boss to the coroner hasn't gone well for him.
Good.
posted on 14/4/21
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves
------------
Slavery was abolished more than 150 years ago, yet African American populations remain one of (if not the) the nation's poorest and segregated ethnic groups. Just put police brutality aside, a host of research shows that they are proportionally more likely to suffer wrongful arrests, wrongful convictions and face obstacles for the same administrative procedures as other groups.
Why do you think that is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’re also more likely to be involved in gang crime and criminal activities in general - that statistics speak for themselves
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poorer communities more likely to be involved in crime, is this a surprise?
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