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posted on 15/1/24

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 19 seconds ago
There are those who support genocide, oppression, occupation and apartheid rule and there are those that don’t. It really shouldn’t be that difficult to pick a side but 🤷‍♂️
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It's not that simple. I watched the Jimmy Savile documentary and one of the kids didn't sit in the right place on set when instructed by Savile. If you're going to misbehave like that then what do you expect? Yeah Jimmy might have done wrong and for a longer period but the kid was the one that started it.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 1 hour ago
If Israel sat back and did nothing in response to that hamas attack would you be joining marches against the palestianian hamas?

Are there marches against Iran who backed them to do this? Do you attend those if so? We just gonna ignore the initial atrocities that started this?

quick scroll through ur posted articles since that think i counted 3/4 articles on the matter not one condemning hamas?

Also what should Israel do, how should they respond to a threat capable of doing what they did backed by Iran sat on their doorstep? Not condoning Israel at all, two wrongs dont make a right but what exactly should they be doing in response?
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Not killing 23000 innocents, most of them are children and women ; not killing journalists to cover their crime ; not destroying hospitals ; not asking civilians to move to certain places and then drop bombs on them….

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 1 hour ago
If Israel sat back and did nothing in response to that hamas attack would you be joining marches against the palestianian hamas?

Are there marches against Iran who backed them to do this? Do you attend those if so? We just gonna ignore the initial atrocities that started this?

quick scroll through ur posted articles since that think i counted 3/4 articles on the matter not one condemning hamas?

Also what should Israel do, how should they respond to a threat capable of doing what they did backed by Iran sat on their doorstep? Not condoning Israel at all, two wrongs dont make a right but what exactly should they be doing in response?
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Not killing 23000 innocents, most of them are children and women ; not killing journalists to cover their crime ; not destroying hospitals ; not asking civilians to move to certain places and then drop bombs on them….
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Inbefore doesn't realise that this is what he is saying they should be doing.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 50 minutes ago
If Israel sat back and did nothing in response to that hamas attack would you be joining marches against the palestianian hamas?

Are there marches against Iran who backed them to do this? Do you attend those if so? We just gonna ignore the initial atrocities that started this?

quick scroll through ur posted articles since that think i counted 3/4 articles on the matter not one condemning hamas?

Also what should Israel do, how should they respond to a threat capable of doing what they did backed by Iran sat on their doorstep? Not condoning Israel at all, two wrongs dont make a right but what exactly should they be doing in response?


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All your questions centre on the wrong event.

October 7th was *a predictable consequence* of Israel's decades long oppression of Palestinians in both Gaza & the West Bank (where there is no Hamas). Note that this isn't a justification for events on the 7th October. I know some people have a hard time understanding the difference between "excusing/justifying" something and *explaining/understanding* something.

That's the fundamental issue. When states crush people violently, there will be a reaction. Our own intelligence services, the MOD, the JIC, Chatham House, JTAC, RAND, the US State Dep. and others all openly acknowledge that our own violence abroad is a leading driver in exacerbating global terrorism. Israel is not exempt from this reality; it long ago chose a path of expansion over security.

Israel could have treated the crimes on the 7th Oct like crimes, rather than blast 20,000 people to smithereens. There are precedents for such things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States

Or better yet, it could have made steps at any time to comply with international law, seek to end the blockade and pursue a course of peace.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 seconds ago
They are an apartheid state guilty of numerous war crimes and the UK/US have been at best complicit. That simple thing should be enough to have them stopped, but it won’t.
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And Hamas are what then? A bunch of cute and friendly folk who make daisy chains? They are literally a militant group who commit terrible atrocities themselves.

At least Israel can vote their leader out. What hope do the Palestinians have really? A military coup? Last time I checked Hamas didn't believe in Elections. The last one was nearly 20 years ago. 😂
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I can’t believe this. Are determined to defend the indefensible? You wanted Ole to stay ; you think Rashford is a genius ; and now you’re defending genocide. Are you out of your senses?

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 seconds ago
They are an apartheid state guilty of numerous war crimes and the UK/US have been at best complicit. That simple thing should be enough to have them stopped, but it won’t.
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And Hamas are what then? A bunch of cute and friendly folk who make daisy chains? They are literally a militant group who commit terrible atrocities themselves.

At least Israel can vote their leader out. What hope do the Palestinians have really? A military coup? Last time I checked Hamas didn't believe in Elections. The last one was nearly 20 years ago. 😂
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Yes well there are a lot of opinions in this, how it started, whether it’s genocide and so on.

But what is fact is that Israel are an apartheid state that is guilty of numerous war crimes. It’s not even up for debate and as such they should be stopped.

comment by bomdia (U13941)

posted on 15/1/24

There is a distinct possibility that Netanyahu could have prevented the attacks but chose to ignore the warnings because a war enables him to avoid the possible legal actions against him at home. He will keep the war going as long as he can to avoid that. There is no doubt that Israel has forfeited any moral high ground by its continued genocide.

posted on 15/1/24

Israel were killing palestinians way before Hamas came in to existence. Killing them in the Westbank and stealing their land where there is no Hamas.

The Israelis are already planning another land grab in Gaza. They want to the Palestenians gone.

SA has good case against Israel on genocide charges. They cannot use Khamas as an excuse to commit genoside.

posted on 15/1/24

https://x.com/7hecanman_/status/1746521690622902600?s=46&t=OGfZZhWP7rROftTlMhKPZg

Israel put this Regev guy on any channel that would take him since the genocide accusations were made, hoping to garner some sympathy, and he’s made a fool of himself every time.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 seconds ago
They are an apartheid state guilty of numerous war crimes and the UK/US have been at best complicit. That simple thing should be enough to have them stopped, but it won’t.
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And Hamas are what then? A bunch of cute and friendly folk who make daisy chains? They are literally a militant group who commit terrible atrocities themselves.

At least Israel can vote their leader out. What hope do the Palestinians have really? A military coup? Last time I checked Hamas didn't believe in Elections. The last one was nearly 20 years ago. 😂
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I can’t believe this. Are determined to defend the indefensible? You wanted Ole to stay ; you think Rashford is a genius ; and now you’re defending genocide. Are you out of your senses?
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You're clearly not very good at reading are you?

How is me not being pro Hamas make me pro Israel? I'm siding with neither. Said that from the start. There's incredible evils on both sides and it's only you virtue signalling morons who don't see it.

How has Ole and Rashford got anything to do with either you absolute fairy? 😂😂😂

posted on 15/1/24

In the last 20 years there's been 22 conflicts in the Middle East. 2 of these involve Israel but you could argue they are one and the same as one of them is bascially Iran supplying arms to anyone and everyone to use against Israel. See Houthi and Hamas.

Israel has been nowhere near these other conflicts but the same sheet happens year in year out in the Middle East. A group of armed militants march into another Country to kill and rape civilians in the name of 'God'. Apparently that's the 'side' people are clearly supposed to pick, like it's not even thinkable you wouldn't.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 seconds ago
They are an apartheid state guilty of numerous war crimes and the UK/US have been at best complicit. That simple thing should be enough to have them stopped, but it won’t.
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And Hamas are what then? A bunch of cute and friendly folk who make daisy chains? They are literally a militant group who commit terrible atrocities themselves.

At least Israel can vote their leader out. What hope do the Palestinians have really? A military coup? Last time I checked Hamas didn't believe in Elections. The last one was nearly 20 years ago. 😂
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I can’t believe this. Are determined to defend the indefensible? You wanted Ole to stay ; you think Rashford is a genius ; and now you’re defending genocide. Are you out of your senses?
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You're clearly not very good at reading are you?

How is me not being pro Hamas make me pro Israel? I'm siding with neither. Said that from the start. There's incredible evils on both sides and it's only you virtue signalling morons who don't see it.

How has Ole and Rashford got anything to do with either you absolute fairy? 😂😂😂
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That’s worse. Being neutral before a crime is siding with the criminal.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 2 minutes ago
In the last 20 years there's been 22 conflicts in the Middle East. 2 of these involve Israel but you could argue they are one and the same as one of them is bascially Iran supplying arms to anyone and everyone to use against Israel. See Houthi and Hamas.

Israel has been nowhere near these other conflicts but the same sheet happens year in year out in the Middle East. A group of armed militants march into another Country to kill and rape civilians in the name of 'God'. Apparently that's the 'side' people are clearly supposed to pick, like it's not even thinkable you wouldn't.
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It all started with 700 000 Palestinian people driven out of their homes in the name of God.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 seconds ago
They are an apartheid state guilty of numerous war crimes and the UK/US have been at best complicit. That simple thing should be enough to have them stopped, but it won’t.
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And Hamas are what then? A bunch of cute and friendly folk who make daisy chains? They are literally a militant group who commit terrible atrocities themselves.

At least Israel can vote their leader out. What hope do the Palestinians have really? A military coup? Last time I checked Hamas didn't believe in Elections. The last one was nearly 20 years ago. 😂
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I can’t believe this. Are determined to defend the indefensible? You wanted Ole to stay ; you think Rashford is a genius ; and now you’re defending genocide. Are you out of your senses?
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You're clearly not very good at reading are you?

How is me not being pro Hamas make me pro Israel? I'm siding with neither. Said that from the start. There's incredible evils on both sides and it's only you virtue signalling morons who don't see it.

How has Ole and Rashford got anything to do with either you absolute fairy? 😂😂😂
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That’s worse. Being neutral before a crime is siding with the criminal.
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What about siding with 2 criminals?

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 seconds ago
They are an apartheid state guilty of numerous war crimes and the UK/US have been at best complicit. That simple thing should be enough to have them stopped, but it won’t.
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And Hamas are what then? A bunch of cute and friendly folk who make daisy chains? They are literally a militant group who commit terrible atrocities themselves.

At least Israel can vote their leader out. What hope do the Palestinians have really? A military coup? Last time I checked Hamas didn't believe in Elections. The last one was nearly 20 years ago. 😂
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I can’t believe this. Are determined to defend the indefensible? You wanted Ole to stay ; you think Rashford is a genius ; and now you’re defending genocide. Are you out of your senses?
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You're clearly not very good at reading are you?

How is me not being pro Hamas make me pro Israel? I'm siding with neither. Said that from the start. There's incredible evils on both sides and it's only you virtue signalling morons who don't see it.

How has Ole and Rashford got anything to do with either you absolute fairy? 😂😂😂
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That’s worse. Being neutral before a crime is siding with the criminal.
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Is sucker punching 200 people at a Pop festival and taking hostages not a crime where you're from then? It is near me you see. People don't tend to react well to that kind of thing.

You see you've committed the fatal flaw of becoming a virtue signalling Muppet without doing any reading on the matter. Hamas would do Israel what they are receiving now ten times over if they could get away with it. Even before this latest conflict. You are aware of this right?

posted on 15/1/24

I will never be astonished by any individual that supports Israel in this matter. It's simple ignorance.

How do people genuinely support an occupying power, that have controlled Palestinians, broken numerous international and human laws and are directly responsible for the deaths tens of thousands over decades is beyond me.

Until the western media recognise that the lives of the 'brown' people in the Middle East are equal to their own, we will continue to support and finance this genocide.

posted on 15/1/24

Hamas aren’t committing genocide, though, Israel are.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Hamas aren’t committing genocide, though, Israel are.
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His wife burnt the roast though so deserves 20 years of domestic abuse

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 1 minute ago
I will never be astonished by any individual that supports Israel in this matter. It's simple ignorance.

How do people genuinely support an occupying power, that have controlled Palestinians, broken numerous international and human laws and are directly responsible for the deaths tens of thousands over decades is beyond me.

Until the western media recognise that the lives of the 'brown' people in the Middle East are equal to their own, we will continue to support and finance this genocide.
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People like “Glazors Out” don’t even know that Gaza is an occupied territory.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Hamas aren’t committing genocide, though, Israel are.
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His wife burnt the roast though so deserves 20 years of domestic abuse
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Both are evil.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes aga... (U18355)
posted 18 minutes ago
https://x.com/7hecanman_/status/1746521690622902600?s=46&t=OGfZZhWP7rROftTlMhKPZg

Israel put this Regev guy on any channel that would take him since the genocide accusations were made, hoping to garner some sympathy, and he’s made a fool of himself every time.
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Funny how you got an Aussie bloke speaking on behalf of Israel, and the military spokesman who is a white bloke from Harrow speaking on behalf of the IDF. It’s not like we’re seeing white European colonisers who think they descend from the Levant committing atrocities on Arabs eh?

posted on 15/1/24

Here’s a solution since Israel is likely going to bring Hamas to its knees…

Why doesn’t the UK just give up a section of its land to the Palestinians? After all it was the British government that started all of this nonsense with the Balfour Declaration.

Throughout human history, losing wars has consequences which include losing land. If you can’t defend your land, oh well. But with the amount of bleeding hearts in the UK who support Palestinians, then you can give up your land for them.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 9 minutes ago

It all started with 700 000 Palestinian people driven out of their homes in the name of God.

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When the Popular Mobilization Forces went after Kurd Civilians a few years ago in a similar manner to Hamas, I suppose that was the Kurds fault.

Or maybe you don't give a toss because they weren't able to fight back.

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 4 minutes ago
I will never be astonished by any individual that supports Israel in this matter. It's simple ignorance.

How do people genuinely support an occupying power, that have controlled Palestinians, broken numerous international and human laws and are directly responsible for the deaths tens of thousands over decades is beyond me.

Until the western media recognise that the lives of the 'brown' people in the Middle East are equal to their own, we will continue to support and finance this genocide.
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You should consider that some of them are Zionist

posted on 15/1/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hamas aren’t committing genocide, though, Israel are.
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Just terrorism and the planning of killing kids and women at a Pop festival. That's okay then.....quick where's my Palestine flag.

Also you might want to do some reading on Hamas. They'd love nothing more to commit genocide on Israel. The only thing that stops them is the ability to do it and also the backlash from the West that would follow.

Lots of very naive people on this forum who can't see the wood for the trees. And by the way I'm still not pro anybody. Im pro ceasefire and that's it.

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