comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 minutes ago
This happened a couple of years before Hamas was elected:
"An Israeli army officer who fired the entire magazine of his automatic rifle into a 13-year-old Palestinian girl and then said he would have done the same even if she had been three years old was acquitted on all charges by a military court yesterday."
That was 17 gunshots by the way.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2
No wonder Hamas exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
two wrongs dont make a right regardless of which side you are on.
Also Under international law, Israel has always met the standards for recognition as a sovereign state.
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 minutes ago
This happened a couple of years before Hamas was elected:
"An Israeli army officer who fired the entire magazine of his automatic rifle into a 13-year-old Palestinian girl and then said he would have done the same even if she had been three years old was acquitted on all charges by a military court yesterday."
That was 17 gunshots by the way.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2
No wonder Hamas exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
two wrongs dont make a right regardless of which side you are on.
Also Under international law, Israel has always met the standards for recognition as a sovereign state.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would you like some even more ridiculous analogies to highlight your stupidity?
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Judaism 3000 years older than Islam too?
There needs to be some kind of pro peace march from people who don't want to be forced by the minority of angry folk who want people to pick sides. The fact we've got pro palestine and pro Israel marches just stokes all this up.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The main problem is Israel are above the law.
To focus on condemning Hamas when the other side can do whatever they want is beyond absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But to not recognise that this conflict that has been going on for decades wouldn't have escalated like this without a cowardly and ultimately disastrous terrorist plot is the bit you're all missing.
And once they decided to plan and carry out that attack....where did they all go? Did they wait for Israel out in the open away from it's innocent civilians in Gaza? No they didn't do that did they? Why? Because they would have been slaughtered. They decided to flee and huge among the innocent people caught up in all this and for good measure they took hostages with them too.
I see a lot of you kind of gloss over this KEY point. This attack lit the fuse on an already complex and dangerous ongoing conflict.
The Israeli response has been awful but yet expected. That day is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the second world war. They were always going to respond this way and Hamas still went ahead and sanctioned that attack. What does that say about them? It says they are stupid and equally to blame for its people being bombed as they knew that would be the response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is how guerrilla warfare is fought, it's nothing new.
Israel had always planned to do this, they just needed an excuse — though they often attack without one.
According to the UN, Gaza was unliveable by 2020. So what are the Palestinians to do then, roll over and die?
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Judaism 3000 years older than Islam too?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, Judaism is 3000 years old, not older.
Why is this relevant?
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It has been proven that the IDF have used Palestinians as human shields.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's nothing to do with what I said though.
The 'God' justified nutters in the Middle East are responsible for this mess. I couldn't care less which side they're on. It's a region of conflict, death, and barbaric actions against others. I have no idea why anyone tries to simplify it into a football match.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who believes they are God's chosen people and are committing ethnic cleansing because they think God gave them that land?
I don't see anything more religiously extreme than Zionism.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The main problem is Israel are above the law.
To focus on condemning Hamas when the other side can do whatever they want is beyond absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But to not recognise that this conflict that has been going on for decades wouldn't have escalated like this without a cowardly and ultimately disastrous terrorist plot is the bit you're all missing.
And once they decided to plan and carry out that attack....where did they all go? Did they wait for Israel out in the open away from it's innocent civilians in Gaza? No they didn't do that did they? Why? Because they would have been slaughtered. They decided to flee and huge among the innocent people caught up in all this and for good measure they took hostages with them too.
I see a lot of you kind of gloss over this KEY point. This attack lit the fuse on an already complex and dangerous ongoing conflict.
The Israeli response has been awful but yet expected. That day is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the second world war. They were always going to respond this way and Hamas still went ahead and sanctioned that attack. What does that say about them? It says they are stupid and equally to blame for its people being bombed as they knew that would be the response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is how guerrilla warfare is fought, it's nothing new.
Israel had always planned to do this, they just needed an excuse — though they often attack without one.
According to the UN, Gaza was unliveable by 2020. So what are the Palestinians to do then, roll over and die?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked plenty of times too.
You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias. I don't know maybe you're Muslim and sympathetic to their cause. Who knows.
But back to my point...... thanks for confirming that Hamas sanctioned the attack knowing full well what the response would be. They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
Until you make peace with that fact you're hopelessly lost.
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The main problem is Israel are above the law.
To focus on condemning Hamas when the other side can do whatever they want is beyond absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But to not recognise that this conflict that has been going on for decades wouldn't have escalated like this without a cowardly and ultimately disastrous terrorist plot is the bit you're all missing.
And once they decided to plan and carry out that attack....where did they all go? Did they wait for Israel out in the open away from it's innocent civilians in Gaza? No they didn't do that did they? Why? Because they would have been slaughtered. They decided to flee and huge among the innocent people caught up in all this and for good measure they took hostages with them too.
I see a lot of you kind of gloss over this KEY point. This attack lit the fuse on an already complex and dangerous ongoing conflict.
The Israeli response has been awful but yet expected. That day is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the second world war. They were always going to respond this way and Hamas still went ahead and sanctioned that attack. What does that say about them? It says they are stupid and equally to blame for its people being bombed as they knew that would be the response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is how guerrilla warfare is fought, it's nothing new.
Israel had always planned to do this, they just needed an excuse — though they often attack without one.
According to the UN, Gaza was unliveable by 2020. So what are the Palestinians to do then, roll over and die?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked plenty of times too.
You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias. I don't know maybe you're Muslim and sympathetic to their cause. Who knows.
But back to my point...... thanks for confirming that Hamas sanctioned the attack knowing full well what the response would be. They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
Until you make peace with that fact you're hopelessly lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it unprovoked if Israel has committed 75 years of war crimes?
You do know the state of Israel was formed from terrorist groups like Irgun, right?
The difference between the two is Israel has options; it could stop its racist policies, stop building illegal settlements, stop occupation.
The Palestinians have two options; fight or be killed anyway.
I remember seeing on the news on tv, a palestinian woman mourning in the rubble, who did she blame for losing her loved ones? Hamas... not Israel... Hamas... Cursing hamas for provoking this. Cause end of the day its the innocent who suffer for the actions of these terrorists. Might be right they were suffering anyway at the hands of Israel, but not to this scale if they were? Not enough to blame Israel over Hamas for the loss of her family etc?
Also that interview of the son of one of the Hamas founders was eye opening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl5OOpCFUCs
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was even better:
They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
It’s always grate when people that Barry memes turn up on articles he’s on and repeat his piiiiistakes.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 minutes ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who believes they are God's chosen people and are committing ethnic cleansing because they think God gave them that land?
I don't see anything more religiously extreme than Zionism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's about 30 million Christian Zionists in the US, more than the population of Israel
But also given there's 2 billion Muslims you would need no more than 0.5% to be extremists to outnumber the entire Jewish population on the planet.
But it's really besides the point other that to demonstrate that I have no idea why anyone simplifies this into a football match, other than people who are narrow minded enough to believe in a sky fairy.
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 46 seconds ago
I remember seeing on the news on tv, a palestinian woman mourning in the rubble, who did she blame for losing her loved ones? Hamas... not Israel... Hamas... Cursing hamas for provoking this. Cause end of the day its the innocent who suffer for the actions of these terrorists. Might be right they were suffering anyway at the hands of Israel, but not to this scale if they were? Not enough to blame Israel over Hamas for the loss of her family etc?
Also that interview of the son of one of the Hamas founders was eye opening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl5OOpCFUCs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's like a kid blaming their mum for killing their dad that was raaaping her. Yes the mum killed the dad but at the end of the day the moral of the story is that you're an idiot.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The main problem is Israel are above the law.
To focus on condemning Hamas when the other side can do whatever they want is beyond absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But to not recognise that this conflict that has been going on for decades wouldn't have escalated like this without a cowardly and ultimately disastrous terrorist plot is the bit you're all missing.
And once they decided to plan and carry out that attack....where did they all go? Did they wait for Israel out in the open away from it's innocent civilians in Gaza? No they didn't do that did they? Why? Because they would have been slaughtered. They decided to flee and huge among the innocent people caught up in all this and for good measure they took hostages with them too.
I see a lot of you kind of gloss over this KEY point. This attack lit the fuse on an already complex and dangerous ongoing conflict.
The Israeli response has been awful but yet expected. That day is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the second world war. They were always going to respond this way and Hamas still went ahead and sanctioned that attack. What does that say about them? It says they are stupid and equally to blame for its people being bombed as they knew that would be the response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is how guerrilla warfare is fought, it's nothing new.
Israel had always planned to do this, they just needed an excuse — though they often attack without one.
According to the UN, Gaza was unliveable by 2020. So what are the Palestinians to do then, roll over and die?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked plenty of times too.
You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias. I don't know maybe you're Muslim and sympathetic to their cause. Who knows.
But back to my point...... thanks for confirming that Hamas sanctioned the attack knowing full well what the response would be. They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
Until you make peace with that fact you're hopelessly lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it unprovoked if Israel has committed 75 years of war crimes?
You do know the state of Israel was formed from terrorist groups like Irgun, right?
The difference between the two is Israel has options; it could stop its racist policies, stop building illegal settlements, stop occupation.
The Palestinians have two options; fight or be killed anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Jews were in Jerusalem 3000 years before Islam was even invented.
They don't see it as illegal. They see it as the birth place of it's people because quite frankly it was.
The Muslims have Mecca and Medina as well as Jerusalem. Greedy. 😜
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was even better:
They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
It’s always grate when people that Barry memes turn up on articles he’s on and repeat his piiiiistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And then having the audacity to say this
“You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias.”
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 minutes ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who believes they are God's chosen people and are committing ethnic cleansing because they think God gave them that land?
I don't see anything more religiously extreme than Zionism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's about 30 million Christian Zionists in the US, more than the population of Israel
But also given there's 2 billion Muslims you would need no more than 0.5% to be extremists to outnumber the entire Jewish population on the planet.
But it's really besides the point other that to demonstrate that I have no idea why anyone simplifies this into a football match, other than people who are narrow minded enough to believe in a sky fairy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If this was a football match, one side are allowed to commit fouls and score offside goals while pundits just blame the other side.
I can only apologise, as I know next to nothing about the subject.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Jews were in Jerusalem 3000 years before Islam was even invented.
They don't see it as illegal. They see it as the birth place of it's people because quite frankly it was.
The Muslims have Mecca and Medina as well as Jerusalem. Greedy. 😜
----------------------------------------------------------------------
270xthe land, 200x the number of people, 50x the number of countries
The most rapidly expanding group on the planet. Most other religions are dying or static in number.
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was even better:
They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
It’s always grate when people that Barry memes turn up on articles he’s on and repeat his piiiiistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And then having the audacity to say this
“You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias.”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can make all the jokes you like. You know full well as I do that Hamas sanctioned those attacks knowing full well what would come their way and they did it anyway.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If this was a football match, one side are allowed to commit fouls and score offside goals while pundits just blame the other side.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for proving my point. As I said the vast majority don't blame either side and think you're all nuts
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The main problem is Israel are above the law.
To focus on condemning Hamas when the other side can do whatever they want is beyond absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But to not recognise that this conflict that has been going on for decades wouldn't have escalated like this without a cowardly and ultimately disastrous terrorist plot is the bit you're all missing.
And once they decided to plan and carry out that attack....where did they all go? Did they wait for Israel out in the open away from it's innocent civilians in Gaza? No they didn't do that did they? Why? Because they would have been slaughtered. They decided to flee and huge among the innocent people caught up in all this and for good measure they took hostages with them too.
I see a lot of you kind of gloss over this KEY point. This attack lit the fuse on an already complex and dangerous ongoing conflict.
The Israeli response has been awful but yet expected. That day is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the second world war. They were always going to respond this way and Hamas still went ahead and sanctioned that attack. What does that say about them? It says they are stupid and equally to blame for its people being bombed as they knew that would be the response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is how guerrilla warfare is fought, it's nothing new.
Israel had always planned to do this, they just needed an excuse — though they often attack without one.
According to the UN, Gaza was unliveable by 2020. So what are the Palestinians to do then, roll over and die?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked plenty of times too.
You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias. I don't know maybe you're Muslim and sympathetic to their cause. Who knows.
But back to my point...... thanks for confirming that Hamas sanctioned the attack knowing full well what the response would be. They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
Until you make peace with that fact you're hopelessly lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it unprovoked if Israel has committed 75 years of war crimes?
You do know the state of Israel was formed from terrorist groups like Irgun, right?
The difference between the two is Israel has options; it could stop its racist policies, stop building illegal settlements, stop occupation.
The Palestinians have two options; fight or be killed anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Jews were in Jerusalem 3000 years before Islam was even invented.
They don't see it as illegal. They see it as the birth place of it's people because quite frankly it was.
The Muslims have Mecca and Medina as well as Jerusalem. Greedy. 😜
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, you're still not understanding.
Islam came 1600 years after Judaism, not 3000.
Before the Zionists came along, Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in Palestine peacefully.
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was even better:
They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
It’s always grate when people that Barry memes turn up on articles he’s on and repeat his piiiiistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And then having the audacity to say this
“You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias.”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
StretfoRDD_Ender85
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If this was a football match, one side are allowed to commit fouls and score offside goals while pundits just blame the other side.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for proving my point. As I said the vast majority don't blame either side and think you're all nuts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you show examples of this vast majority not blaming either side?
Sign in if you want to comment
Israel
Page 4 of 31
6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10
posted on 15/1/24
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 minutes ago
This happened a couple of years before Hamas was elected:
"An Israeli army officer who fired the entire magazine of his automatic rifle into a 13-year-old Palestinian girl and then said he would have done the same even if she had been three years old was acquitted on all charges by a military court yesterday."
That was 17 gunshots by the way.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2
No wonder Hamas exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
two wrongs dont make a right regardless of which side you are on.
Also Under international law, Israel has always met the standards for recognition as a sovereign state.
posted on 15/1/24
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 minutes ago
This happened a couple of years before Hamas was elected:
"An Israeli army officer who fired the entire magazine of his automatic rifle into a 13-year-old Palestinian girl and then said he would have done the same even if she had been three years old was acquitted on all charges by a military court yesterday."
That was 17 gunshots by the way.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2
No wonder Hamas exist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
two wrongs dont make a right regardless of which side you are on.
Also Under international law, Israel has always met the standards for recognition as a sovereign state.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would you like some even more ridiculous analogies to highlight your stupidity?
posted on 15/1/24
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Judaism 3000 years older than Islam too?
posted on 15/1/24
posted on 15/1/24
There needs to be some kind of pro peace march from people who don't want to be forced by the minority of angry folk who want people to pick sides. The fact we've got pro palestine and pro Israel marches just stokes all this up.
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The main problem is Israel are above the law.
To focus on condemning Hamas when the other side can do whatever they want is beyond absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But to not recognise that this conflict that has been going on for decades wouldn't have escalated like this without a cowardly and ultimately disastrous terrorist plot is the bit you're all missing.
And once they decided to plan and carry out that attack....where did they all go? Did they wait for Israel out in the open away from it's innocent civilians in Gaza? No they didn't do that did they? Why? Because they would have been slaughtered. They decided to flee and huge among the innocent people caught up in all this and for good measure they took hostages with them too.
I see a lot of you kind of gloss over this KEY point. This attack lit the fuse on an already complex and dangerous ongoing conflict.
The Israeli response has been awful but yet expected. That day is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the second world war. They were always going to respond this way and Hamas still went ahead and sanctioned that attack. What does that say about them? It says they are stupid and equally to blame for its people being bombed as they knew that would be the response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is how guerrilla warfare is fought, it's nothing new.
Israel had always planned to do this, they just needed an excuse — though they often attack without one.
According to the UN, Gaza was unliveable by 2020. So what are the Palestinians to do then, roll over and die?
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Judaism 3000 years older than Islam too?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, Judaism is 3000 years old, not older.
Why is this relevant?
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It has been proven that the IDF have used Palestinians as human shields.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's nothing to do with what I said though.
The 'God' justified nutters in the Middle East are responsible for this mess. I couldn't care less which side they're on. It's a region of conflict, death, and barbaric actions against others. I have no idea why anyone tries to simplify it into a football match.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who believes they are God's chosen people and are committing ethnic cleansing because they think God gave them that land?
I don't see anything more religiously extreme than Zionism.
posted on 15/1/24
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The main problem is Israel are above the law.
To focus on condemning Hamas when the other side can do whatever they want is beyond absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But to not recognise that this conflict that has been going on for decades wouldn't have escalated like this without a cowardly and ultimately disastrous terrorist plot is the bit you're all missing.
And once they decided to plan and carry out that attack....where did they all go? Did they wait for Israel out in the open away from it's innocent civilians in Gaza? No they didn't do that did they? Why? Because they would have been slaughtered. They decided to flee and huge among the innocent people caught up in all this and for good measure they took hostages with them too.
I see a lot of you kind of gloss over this KEY point. This attack lit the fuse on an already complex and dangerous ongoing conflict.
The Israeli response has been awful but yet expected. That day is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the second world war. They were always going to respond this way and Hamas still went ahead and sanctioned that attack. What does that say about them? It says they are stupid and equally to blame for its people being bombed as they knew that would be the response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is how guerrilla warfare is fought, it's nothing new.
Israel had always planned to do this, they just needed an excuse — though they often attack without one.
According to the UN, Gaza was unliveable by 2020. So what are the Palestinians to do then, roll over and die?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked plenty of times too.
You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias. I don't know maybe you're Muslim and sympathetic to their cause. Who knows.
But back to my point...... thanks for confirming that Hamas sanctioned the attack knowing full well what the response would be. They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
Until you make peace with that fact you're hopelessly lost.
posted on 15/1/24
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The main problem is Israel are above the law.
To focus on condemning Hamas when the other side can do whatever they want is beyond absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But to not recognise that this conflict that has been going on for decades wouldn't have escalated like this without a cowardly and ultimately disastrous terrorist plot is the bit you're all missing.
And once they decided to plan and carry out that attack....where did they all go? Did they wait for Israel out in the open away from it's innocent civilians in Gaza? No they didn't do that did they? Why? Because they would have been slaughtered. They decided to flee and huge among the innocent people caught up in all this and for good measure they took hostages with them too.
I see a lot of you kind of gloss over this KEY point. This attack lit the fuse on an already complex and dangerous ongoing conflict.
The Israeli response has been awful but yet expected. That day is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the second world war. They were always going to respond this way and Hamas still went ahead and sanctioned that attack. What does that say about them? It says they are stupid and equally to blame for its people being bombed as they knew that would be the response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is how guerrilla warfare is fought, it's nothing new.
Israel had always planned to do this, they just needed an excuse — though they often attack without one.
According to the UN, Gaza was unliveable by 2020. So what are the Palestinians to do then, roll over and die?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked plenty of times too.
You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias. I don't know maybe you're Muslim and sympathetic to their cause. Who knows.
But back to my point...... thanks for confirming that Hamas sanctioned the attack knowing full well what the response would be. They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
Until you make peace with that fact you're hopelessly lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it unprovoked if Israel has committed 75 years of war crimes?
You do know the state of Israel was formed from terrorist groups like Irgun, right?
The difference between the two is Israel has options; it could stop its racist policies, stop building illegal settlements, stop occupation.
The Palestinians have two options; fight or be killed anyway.
posted on 15/1/24
I remember seeing on the news on tv, a palestinian woman mourning in the rubble, who did she blame for losing her loved ones? Hamas... not Israel... Hamas... Cursing hamas for provoking this. Cause end of the day its the innocent who suffer for the actions of these terrorists. Might be right they were suffering anyway at the hands of Israel, but not to this scale if they were? Not enough to blame Israel over Hamas for the loss of her family etc?
Also that interview of the son of one of the Hamas founders was eye opening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl5OOpCFUCs
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was even better:
They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
It’s always grate when people that Barry memes turn up on articles he’s on and repeat his piiiiistakes.
posted on 15/1/24
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 minutes ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who believes they are God's chosen people and are committing ethnic cleansing because they think God gave them that land?
I don't see anything more religiously extreme than Zionism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's about 30 million Christian Zionists in the US, more than the population of Israel
But also given there's 2 billion Muslims you would need no more than 0.5% to be extremists to outnumber the entire Jewish population on the planet.
But it's really besides the point other that to demonstrate that I have no idea why anyone simplifies this into a football match, other than people who are narrow minded enough to believe in a sky fairy.
posted on 15/1/24
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 46 seconds ago
I remember seeing on the news on tv, a palestinian woman mourning in the rubble, who did she blame for losing her loved ones? Hamas... not Israel... Hamas... Cursing hamas for provoking this. Cause end of the day its the innocent who suffer for the actions of these terrorists. Might be right they were suffering anyway at the hands of Israel, but not to this scale if they were? Not enough to blame Israel over Hamas for the loss of her family etc?
Also that interview of the son of one of the Hamas founders was eye opening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl5OOpCFUCs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's like a kid blaming their mum for killing their dad that was raaaping her. Yes the mum killed the dad but at the end of the day the moral of the story is that you're an idiot.
posted on 15/1/24
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The main problem is Israel are above the law.
To focus on condemning Hamas when the other side can do whatever they want is beyond absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But to not recognise that this conflict that has been going on for decades wouldn't have escalated like this without a cowardly and ultimately disastrous terrorist plot is the bit you're all missing.
And once they decided to plan and carry out that attack....where did they all go? Did they wait for Israel out in the open away from it's innocent civilians in Gaza? No they didn't do that did they? Why? Because they would have been slaughtered. They decided to flee and huge among the innocent people caught up in all this and for good measure they took hostages with them too.
I see a lot of you kind of gloss over this KEY point. This attack lit the fuse on an already complex and dangerous ongoing conflict.
The Israeli response has been awful but yet expected. That day is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the second world war. They were always going to respond this way and Hamas still went ahead and sanctioned that attack. What does that say about them? It says they are stupid and equally to blame for its people being bombed as they knew that would be the response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is how guerrilla warfare is fought, it's nothing new.
Israel had always planned to do this, they just needed an excuse — though they often attack without one.
According to the UN, Gaza was unliveable by 2020. So what are the Palestinians to do then, roll over and die?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked plenty of times too.
You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias. I don't know maybe you're Muslim and sympathetic to their cause. Who knows.
But back to my point...... thanks for confirming that Hamas sanctioned the attack knowing full well what the response would be. They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
Until you make peace with that fact you're hopelessly lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it unprovoked if Israel has committed 75 years of war crimes?
You do know the state of Israel was formed from terrorist groups like Irgun, right?
The difference between the two is Israel has options; it could stop its racist policies, stop building illegal settlements, stop occupation.
The Palestinians have two options; fight or be killed anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Jews were in Jerusalem 3000 years before Islam was even invented.
They don't see it as illegal. They see it as the birth place of it's people because quite frankly it was.
The Muslims have Mecca and Medina as well as Jerusalem. Greedy. 😜
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was even better:
They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
It’s always grate when people that Barry memes turn up on articles he’s on and repeat his piiiiistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And then having the audacity to say this
“You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias.”
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 minutes ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who believes they are God's chosen people and are committing ethnic cleansing because they think God gave them that land?
I don't see anything more religiously extreme than Zionism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's about 30 million Christian Zionists in the US, more than the population of Israel
But also given there's 2 billion Muslims you would need no more than 0.5% to be extremists to outnumber the entire Jewish population on the planet.
But it's really besides the point other that to demonstrate that I have no idea why anyone simplifies this into a football match, other than people who are narrow minded enough to believe in a sky fairy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If this was a football match, one side are allowed to commit fouls and score offside goals while pundits just blame the other side.
posted on 15/1/24
I can only apologise, as I know next to nothing about the subject.
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Jews were in Jerusalem 3000 years before Islam was even invented.
They don't see it as illegal. They see it as the birth place of it's people because quite frankly it was.
The Muslims have Mecca and Medina as well as Jerusalem. Greedy. 😜
----------------------------------------------------------------------
270xthe land, 200x the number of people, 50x the number of countries
The most rapidly expanding group on the planet. Most other religions are dying or static in number.
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was even better:
They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
It’s always grate when people that Barry memes turn up on articles he’s on and repeat his piiiiistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And then having the audacity to say this
“You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias.”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can make all the jokes you like. You know full well as I do that Hamas sanctioned those attacks knowing full well what would come their way and they did it anyway.
posted on 15/1/24
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If this was a football match, one side are allowed to commit fouls and score offside goals while pundits just blame the other side.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for proving my point. As I said the vast majority don't blame either side and think you're all nuts
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
The main problem is Israel are above the law.
To focus on condemning Hamas when the other side can do whatever they want is beyond absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But to not recognise that this conflict that has been going on for decades wouldn't have escalated like this without a cowardly and ultimately disastrous terrorist plot is the bit you're all missing.
And once they decided to plan and carry out that attack....where did they all go? Did they wait for Israel out in the open away from it's innocent civilians in Gaza? No they didn't do that did they? Why? Because they would have been slaughtered. They decided to flee and huge among the innocent people caught up in all this and for good measure they took hostages with them too.
I see a lot of you kind of gloss over this KEY point. This attack lit the fuse on an already complex and dangerous ongoing conflict.
The Israeli response has been awful but yet expected. That day is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the second world war. They were always going to respond this way and Hamas still went ahead and sanctioned that attack. What does that say about them? It says they are stupid and equally to blame for its people being bombed as they knew that would be the response.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is how guerrilla warfare is fought, it's nothing new.
Israel had always planned to do this, they just needed an excuse — though they often attack without one.
According to the UN, Gaza was unliveable by 2020. So what are the Palestinians to do then, roll over and die?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked plenty of times too.
You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias. I don't know maybe you're Muslim and sympathetic to their cause. Who knows.
But back to my point...... thanks for confirming that Hamas sanctioned the attack knowing full well what the response would be. They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
Until you make peace with that fact you're hopelessly lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How is it unprovoked if Israel has committed 75 years of war crimes?
You do know the state of Israel was formed from terrorist groups like Irgun, right?
The difference between the two is Israel has options; it could stop its racist policies, stop building illegal settlements, stop occupation.
The Palestinians have two options; fight or be killed anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Jews were in Jerusalem 3000 years before Islam was even invented.
They don't see it as illegal. They see it as the birth place of it's people because quite frankly it was.
The Muslims have Mecca and Medina as well as Jerusalem. Greedy. 😜
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, you're still not understanding.
Islam came 1600 years after Judaism, not 3000.
Before the Zionists came along, Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in Palestine peacefully.
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hamas have sent rockets into Israeli populations unprevoked
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was even better:
They brought genocide to it's people just as much as the Israeli bombers did.
It’s always grate when people that Barry memes turn up on articles he’s on and repeat his piiiiistakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And then having the audacity to say this
“You see.....if you're going to debate then at least have the decency of being impartial and fair and giving accurate information. You're not doing this which clearly demonstrates a very clear bias.”
----------------------------------------------------------------------
StretfoRDD_Ender85
posted on 15/1/24
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If this was a football match, one side are allowed to commit fouls and score offside goals while pundits just blame the other side.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for proving my point. As I said the vast majority don't blame either side and think you're all nuts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can you show examples of this vast majority not blaming either side?
Page 4 of 31
6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10