comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And yes I saw that link and I cannot believe you actually had the balls to share one link from one university out of the entire country to ‘demonstrate’ that this policy is responsible for the notable changes in entrance to higher education across the population from 2006-2022 for ALL universities.
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You want me to go to individual university pages to provide you with info?
You're asking for the impossible and then thinking you've scored a point because I can't provide it.
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If it respnsible for so much change, it shouldn’t be hard for you to find positive action uk universities. Go go go
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Is this derived from something I said, or just another senseless tirade?
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 10 hours, 57 minutes ago
Doesn’t really matter. Unless you’re denying you’ve ever voted for them, and are going to pretend that all of your arguments aren’t straight out of the conservative playbook, the point still stands.
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It's fascinating that so many people who hold conservative views see themselves as apolitical and basically following common sense where it takes them, while viewing those who disagree with them as tribal and dogmatic to the point of assuming bad faith (see also "if you are as interested in this as you make out to be" ).
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Wow I think I have seriously overestimated you.
Whomever Kobbie The King Mainoo is, he is doing exactly what you describe. Talking generally Tory this and Tory that. What a truly dreadful example to align with to make whatever point you’re trying to make.
This guy literally just came on saying ‘imagine a Tory saying this’ I replied saying I am an individual with my own opinions on things, he comes out with the above contradictory nonsense and you try to agree with him.
Is there anything more tribal than jumping into a conversation and saying Tory this, Tory that. Tories don’t think that way.
Incredible stuff really.
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This phenomenon is widely discussed in political science. And there are thousands of articles in which left-wingers talk about how we need to be much more effective at communicating like the Right is: sounding less ideological, less 'political', putting things more in everyday, commonsense language. It's a rhetorical disadvantage for the left that lefties tend to want to change things, and therefore recognise the political nature of their views, while conservatives don't want change, aren't troubled by existing hierarchies, and more naturally therefore don't couch their ideological positions in ideological language. This is objectively true and can be described without attaching value judgements. Only we did atrach the value judgement because we think you're сunts.
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I've answered all your queries and you've got nothing left.
If you want we can ask the world to stop so you can get off at the next stop. Forwards ever backwards never.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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Yet black people have been discriminated against for centuries. Something you've been conspicuously quiet about. The first time I saw you express worry about uno admissions was to worry whether your white kids will be discriminated against FFS
I mentioned Trump because he's a naked racist and extremist, and I was pointing out that the text you were recommending as 'evidence' was from a very partisan source and ultra-conservative end of the political spectrum. Have you read with an open mind ultra-liberal books on affirmative action before forming your view?
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 10 hours, 57 minutes ago
Doesn’t really matter. Unless you’re denying you’ve ever voted for them, and are going to pretend that all of your arguments aren’t straight out of the conservative playbook, the point still stands.
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It's fascinating that so many people who hold conservative views see themselves as apolitical and basically following common sense where it takes them, while viewing those who disagree with them as tribal and dogmatic to the point of assuming bad faith (see also "if you are as interested in this as you make out to be" ).
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Wow I think I have seriously overestimated you.
Whomever Kobbie The King Mainoo is, he is doing exactly what you describe. Talking generally Tory this and Tory that. What a truly dreadful example to align with to make whatever point you’re trying to make.
This guy literally just came on saying ‘imagine a Tory saying this’ I replied saying I am an individual with my own opinions on things, he comes out with the above contradictory nonsense and you try to agree with him.
Is there anything more tribal than jumping into a conversation and saying Tory this, Tory that. Tories don’t think that way.
Incredible stuff really.
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This phenomenon is widely discussed in political science. And there are thousands of articles in which left-wingers talk about how we need to be much more effective at communicating like the Right is: sounding less ideological, less 'political', putting things more in everyday, commonsense language. It's a rhetorical disadvantage for the left that lefties tend to want to change things, and therefore recognise the political nature of their views, while conservatives don't want change, aren't troubled by existing hierarchies, and more naturally therefore don't couch their ideological positions in ideological language. This is objectively true and can be described without attaching value judgements. Only we did atrach the value judgement because we think you're сunts.
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Let me simplify this for the geniuses.
It basically means right wingers are right wingers because they're the thicker ones among us who rely on anecdotes to formulate opinion and prefer simple and direct explanations to otherwise complex questions, while left wingers are the smart ones among us who are able to process information with a higher level of cognitive complexity, think critically and apply complex facts to complex situations.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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Yet black people have been discriminated against for centuries. Something you've been conspicuously quiet about. The first time I saw you express worry about uno admissions was to worry whether your white kids will be discriminated against FFS
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comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I've answered all your queries and you've got nothing left.
If you want we can ask the world to stop so you can get off at the next stop. Forwards ever backwards never.
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And you are entitled to yours Mambinator, you haven’t really answered my query at all because you cannot.
What you fail, as ever, to understand is that we both want progress, we just disagree on how we get there.
You’re happy for some individuals to suffer for the betterment of others to balance out the group identity politics mess whereas I value the individual.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
I mentioned Trump because he's a naked racist and extremist, and I was pointing out that the text you were recommending as 'evidence' was from a very partisan source and ultra-conservative end of the political spectrum. Have you read with an open mind ultra-liberal books on affirmative action before forming your view?
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So you wanted to link it, completely irrelevantly, to someone that you deem as a naked racist and extremist.
Thank you so much for proving my point RR. FML
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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Yet black people have been discriminated against for centuries. Something you've been conspicuously quiet about. The first time I saw you express worry about uno admissions was to worry whether your white kids will be discriminated against FFS
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Am I supposed to apologise for things that took place before I even lived?
This clown can’t even read data before concluding that it’s flawed. (Fields not you Mamba)
I think at this juncture SatNav anything I say will prove your point, in your head.
Hope you get better soon.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I've answered all your queries and you've got nothing left.
If you want we can ask the world to stop so you can get off at the next stop. Forwards ever backwards never.
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And you are entitled to yours Mambinator, you haven’t really answered my query at all because you cannot.
What you fail, as ever, to understand is that we both want progress, we just disagree on how we get there.
You’re happy for some individuals to suffer for the betterment of others to balance out the group identity politics mess whereas I value the individual.
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What about your query have I not answered?
We don't both want the same kind of progress clearly. You only care about white people, as Fields has pointed out above. You don't really care about those oppressed by historical racism because you've presented absolutely nothing that can help them.
The only thing you've presented is designed to protect the historical advantage gained from historical racism, and staunch opposition to anything and everything that can help those oppressed and you're doing it all in the name of being anti racist
SatNav really doesnt understand whst positive discrimination sets out to achieve does he?
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I've answered all your queries and you've got nothing left.
If you want we can ask the world to stop so you can get off at the next stop. Forwards ever backwards never.
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And you are entitled to yours Mambinator, you haven’t really answered my query at all because you cannot.
What you fail, as ever, to understand is that we both want progress, we just disagree on how we get there.
You’re happy for some individuals to suffer for the betterment of others to balance out the group identity politics mess whereas I value the individual.
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What about your query have I not answered?
We don't both want the same kind of progress clearly. You only care about white people, as Fields has pointed out above. You don't really care about those oppressed by historical racism because you've presented absolutely nothing that can help them.
The only thing you've presented is designed to protect the historical advantage gained from historical racism, and staunch opposition to anything and everything that can help those oppressed and you're doing it all in the name of being anti racist
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Universities employing positive action nationally leading the huge improvement we have seen. So far you have offered the NHS 🤣, Bristol Uni 🤣 and 2010 Equality act 🤣
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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Yet black people have been discriminated against for centuries. Something you've been conspicuously quiet about. The first time I saw you express worry about uno admissions was to worry whether your white kids will be discriminated against FFS
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Am I supposed to apologise for things that took place before I even lived?
This clown can’t even read data before concluding that it’s flawed. (Fields not you Mamba)
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This may come as a shock to you but discrimination at universities during your lifetime. I find it funny that you equate attempts to address a centuries long imbalance with 'but what about my white kids'.
Its a bit pathetic
*has been going on during your lifetime
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think at this juncture SatNav anything I say will prove your point, in your head.
Hope you get better soon.
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Thanks.
But seriously, what link did Trump have to the validity of Thomas Sowell’s life work and data? Nothing. You just wanted to run his name through the mud, be honest.
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I've answered all your queries and you've got nothing left.
If you want we can ask the world to stop so you can get off at the next stop. Forwards ever backwards never.
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And you are entitled to yours Mambinator, you haven’t really answered my query at all because you cannot.
What you fail, as ever, to understand is that we both want progress, we just disagree on how we get there.
You’re happy for some individuals to suffer for the betterment of others to balance out the group identity politics mess whereas I value the individual.
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What about your query have I not answered?
We don't both want the same kind of progress clearly. You only care about white people, as Fields has pointed out above. You don't really care about those oppressed by historical racism because you've presented absolutely nothing that can help them.
The only thing you've presented is designed to protect the historical advantage gained from historical racism, and staunch opposition to anything and everything that can help those oppressed and you're doing it all in the name of being anti racist
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So when I offered alternatives what was that then?
Things like all identifiers off CVs, supporting schemes like the assisted places scheme, grants, scholarships, school choice. All of that was to protect whitey eh? Don’t be so disingenuous you muggle.
If I suggest to immigrants that they swim across the channel because they don't have a boat, is that presenting them with an alternative?
You can say you presented alternatives, but you didn't.
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 8 seconds ago
If I suggest to immigrants that they swim across the channel because they don't have a boat, is that presenting them with an alternative?
You can say you presented alternatives, but you didn't.
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But I did. Taking identifiers off CVs has probably one of the biggest impacts on equality when if comes to hiring. Assisting people getting better schooling doesn’t help? That’s news to me.
I think you should focus on work, you’ve tired yourself out here and your standards are dropping sharply.
Things like all identifiers off CVs, supporting schemes like the assisted places scheme, grants, scholarships, school choice
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Thanks for the suggestions but we are already doing those as part of the Positive Action under the Equalities Act. Giving more places, grants and scholarships to minorities everyday.
SatNav, I've already explained twice that I was making the point that you were citing a very partisan voice on this topic. His provocative stance on the movement that ended segregation and his support for the orange racist were two examples I gave to illustrate the point *not* that he's a wаnker, but that this isn't an even-handed introduction to the topic, but a very tendentious commentator.
But I did. Taking identifiers off CVs has probably one of the biggest impacts on equality when if comes to hiring.
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No it doesn't, and in this context is an extremely stoopid suggestion because it only tackles employers bias at the point of applying for a job. It does nothing for any other forms of racism and does nothing for historical racism which has led to some people having better CVs than others.
A better CV is a better CV, with or without the name so you're not really addressing the age old problem that made us invent affirmative action, mainly because of the warped manner in which you view it.
They should have included one token black guy, then they could still be seen as racist but at least it would show they had acknowledged their racism and tried to address it.
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posted on 14/3/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
And yes I saw that link and I cannot believe you actually had the balls to share one link from one university out of the entire country to ‘demonstrate’ that this policy is responsible for the notable changes in entrance to higher education across the population from 2006-2022 for ALL universities.
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You want me to go to individual university pages to provide you with info?
You're asking for the impossible and then thinking you've scored a point because I can't provide it.
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If it respnsible for so much change, it shouldn’t be hard for you to find positive action uk universities. Go go go
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Is this derived from something I said, or just another senseless tirade?
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 10 hours, 57 minutes ago
Doesn’t really matter. Unless you’re denying you’ve ever voted for them, and are going to pretend that all of your arguments aren’t straight out of the conservative playbook, the point still stands.
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It's fascinating that so many people who hold conservative views see themselves as apolitical and basically following common sense where it takes them, while viewing those who disagree with them as tribal and dogmatic to the point of assuming bad faith (see also "if you are as interested in this as you make out to be" ).
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Wow I think I have seriously overestimated you.
Whomever Kobbie The King Mainoo is, he is doing exactly what you describe. Talking generally Tory this and Tory that. What a truly dreadful example to align with to make whatever point you’re trying to make.
This guy literally just came on saying ‘imagine a Tory saying this’ I replied saying I am an individual with my own opinions on things, he comes out with the above contradictory nonsense and you try to agree with him.
Is there anything more tribal than jumping into a conversation and saying Tory this, Tory that. Tories don’t think that way.
Incredible stuff really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This phenomenon is widely discussed in political science. And there are thousands of articles in which left-wingers talk about how we need to be much more effective at communicating like the Right is: sounding less ideological, less 'political', putting things more in everyday, commonsense language. It's a rhetorical disadvantage for the left that lefties tend to want to change things, and therefore recognise the political nature of their views, while conservatives don't want change, aren't troubled by existing hierarchies, and more naturally therefore don't couch their ideological positions in ideological language. This is objectively true and can be described without attaching value judgements. Only we did atrach the value judgement because we think you're сunts.
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I've answered all your queries and you've got nothing left.
If you want we can ask the world to stop so you can get off at the next stop. Forwards ever backwards never.
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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Yet black people have been discriminated against for centuries. Something you've been conspicuously quiet about. The first time I saw you express worry about uno admissions was to worry whether your white kids will be discriminated against FFS
posted on 14/3/24
I mentioned Trump because he's a naked racist and extremist, and I was pointing out that the text you were recommending as 'evidence' was from a very partisan source and ultra-conservative end of the political spectrum. Have you read with an open mind ultra-liberal books on affirmative action before forming your view?
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 10 hours, 57 minutes ago
Doesn’t really matter. Unless you’re denying you’ve ever voted for them, and are going to pretend that all of your arguments aren’t straight out of the conservative playbook, the point still stands.
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It's fascinating that so many people who hold conservative views see themselves as apolitical and basically following common sense where it takes them, while viewing those who disagree with them as tribal and dogmatic to the point of assuming bad faith (see also "if you are as interested in this as you make out to be" ).
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Wow I think I have seriously overestimated you.
Whomever Kobbie The King Mainoo is, he is doing exactly what you describe. Talking generally Tory this and Tory that. What a truly dreadful example to align with to make whatever point you’re trying to make.
This guy literally just came on saying ‘imagine a Tory saying this’ I replied saying I am an individual with my own opinions on things, he comes out with the above contradictory nonsense and you try to agree with him.
Is there anything more tribal than jumping into a conversation and saying Tory this, Tory that. Tories don’t think that way.
Incredible stuff really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This phenomenon is widely discussed in political science. And there are thousands of articles in which left-wingers talk about how we need to be much more effective at communicating like the Right is: sounding less ideological, less 'political', putting things more in everyday, commonsense language. It's a rhetorical disadvantage for the left that lefties tend to want to change things, and therefore recognise the political nature of their views, while conservatives don't want change, aren't troubled by existing hierarchies, and more naturally therefore don't couch their ideological positions in ideological language. This is objectively true and can be described without attaching value judgements. Only we did atrach the value judgement because we think you're сunts.
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Let me simplify this for the geniuses.
It basically means right wingers are right wingers because they're the thicker ones among us who rely on anecdotes to formulate opinion and prefer simple and direct explanations to otherwise complex questions, while left wingers are the smart ones among us who are able to process information with a higher level of cognitive complexity, think critically and apply complex facts to complex situations.
posted on 14/3/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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Yet black people have been discriminated against for centuries. Something you've been conspicuously quiet about. The first time I saw you express worry about uno admissions was to worry whether your white kids will be discriminated against FFS
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posted on 14/3/24
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I've answered all your queries and you've got nothing left.
If you want we can ask the world to stop so you can get off at the next stop. Forwards ever backwards never.
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And you are entitled to yours Mambinator, you haven’t really answered my query at all because you cannot.
What you fail, as ever, to understand is that we both want progress, we just disagree on how we get there.
You’re happy for some individuals to suffer for the betterment of others to balance out the group identity politics mess whereas I value the individual.
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
I mentioned Trump because he's a naked racist and extremist, and I was pointing out that the text you were recommending as 'evidence' was from a very partisan source and ultra-conservative end of the political spectrum. Have you read with an open mind ultra-liberal books on affirmative action before forming your view?
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So you wanted to link it, completely irrelevantly, to someone that you deem as a naked racist and extremist.
Thank you so much for proving my point RR. FML
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
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Yet black people have been discriminated against for centuries. Something you've been conspicuously quiet about. The first time I saw you express worry about uno admissions was to worry whether your white kids will be discriminated against FFS
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Am I supposed to apologise for things that took place before I even lived?
This clown can’t even read data before concluding that it’s flawed. (Fields not you Mamba)
posted on 14/3/24
I think at this juncture SatNav anything I say will prove your point, in your head.
Hope you get better soon.
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I've answered all your queries and you've got nothing left.
If you want we can ask the world to stop so you can get off at the next stop. Forwards ever backwards never.
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And you are entitled to yours Mambinator, you haven’t really answered my query at all because you cannot.
What you fail, as ever, to understand is that we both want progress, we just disagree on how we get there.
You’re happy for some individuals to suffer for the betterment of others to balance out the group identity politics mess whereas I value the individual.
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What about your query have I not answered?
We don't both want the same kind of progress clearly. You only care about white people, as Fields has pointed out above. You don't really care about those oppressed by historical racism because you've presented absolutely nothing that can help them.
The only thing you've presented is designed to protect the historical advantage gained from historical racism, and staunch opposition to anything and everything that can help those oppressed and you're doing it all in the name of being anti racist
posted on 14/3/24
SatNav really doesnt understand whst positive discrimination sets out to achieve does he?
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I've answered all your queries and you've got nothing left.
If you want we can ask the world to stop so you can get off at the next stop. Forwards ever backwards never.
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And you are entitled to yours Mambinator, you haven’t really answered my query at all because you cannot.
What you fail, as ever, to understand is that we both want progress, we just disagree on how we get there.
You’re happy for some individuals to suffer for the betterment of others to balance out the group identity politics mess whereas I value the individual.
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What about your query have I not answered?
We don't both want the same kind of progress clearly. You only care about white people, as Fields has pointed out above. You don't really care about those oppressed by historical racism because you've presented absolutely nothing that can help them.
The only thing you've presented is designed to protect the historical advantage gained from historical racism, and staunch opposition to anything and everything that can help those oppressed and you're doing it all in the name of being anti racist
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Universities employing positive action nationally leading the huge improvement we have seen. So far you have offered the NHS 🤣, Bristol Uni 🤣 and 2010 Equality act 🤣
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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Yet black people have been discriminated against for centuries. Something you've been conspicuously quiet about. The first time I saw you express worry about uno admissions was to worry whether your white kids will be discriminated against FFS
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Am I supposed to apologise for things that took place before I even lived?
This clown can’t even read data before concluding that it’s flawed. (Fields not you Mamba)
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This may come as a shock to you but discrimination at universities during your lifetime. I find it funny that you equate attempts to address a centuries long imbalance with 'but what about my white kids'.
Its a bit pathetic
posted on 14/3/24
*has been going on during your lifetime
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think at this juncture SatNav anything I say will prove your point, in your head.
Hope you get better soon.
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Thanks.
But seriously, what link did Trump have to the validity of Thomas Sowell’s life work and data? Nothing. You just wanted to run his name through the mud, be honest.
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 20 seconds ago
And we don't like out time wasted.
Going by what you've said so far you should be appalled by positive action as well.
Tell us how positive action is racist or can be used in a racist manner please.
Fecking genius.
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If someone is refused entry to a university or employment with their race as a factor, then I do not nor ever will support it. You’re fine with that as long as it is helping those in need.
End of.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I've answered all your queries and you've got nothing left.
If you want we can ask the world to stop so you can get off at the next stop. Forwards ever backwards never.
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And you are entitled to yours Mambinator, you haven’t really answered my query at all because you cannot.
What you fail, as ever, to understand is that we both want progress, we just disagree on how we get there.
You’re happy for some individuals to suffer for the betterment of others to balance out the group identity politics mess whereas I value the individual.
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What about your query have I not answered?
We don't both want the same kind of progress clearly. You only care about white people, as Fields has pointed out above. You don't really care about those oppressed by historical racism because you've presented absolutely nothing that can help them.
The only thing you've presented is designed to protect the historical advantage gained from historical racism, and staunch opposition to anything and everything that can help those oppressed and you're doing it all in the name of being anti racist
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So when I offered alternatives what was that then?
Things like all identifiers off CVs, supporting schemes like the assisted places scheme, grants, scholarships, school choice. All of that was to protect whitey eh? Don’t be so disingenuous you muggle.
posted on 14/3/24
If I suggest to immigrants that they swim across the channel because they don't have a boat, is that presenting them with an alternative?
You can say you presented alternatives, but you didn't.
posted on 14/3/24
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 8 seconds ago
If I suggest to immigrants that they swim across the channel because they don't have a boat, is that presenting them with an alternative?
You can say you presented alternatives, but you didn't.
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But I did. Taking identifiers off CVs has probably one of the biggest impacts on equality when if comes to hiring. Assisting people getting better schooling doesn’t help? That’s news to me.
I think you should focus on work, you’ve tired yourself out here and your standards are dropping sharply.
posted on 14/3/24
Things like all identifiers off CVs, supporting schemes like the assisted places scheme, grants, scholarships, school choice
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Thanks for the suggestions but we are already doing those as part of the Positive Action under the Equalities Act. Giving more places, grants and scholarships to minorities everyday.
posted on 14/3/24
SatNav, I've already explained twice that I was making the point that you were citing a very partisan voice on this topic. His provocative stance on the movement that ended segregation and his support for the orange racist were two examples I gave to illustrate the point *not* that he's a wаnker, but that this isn't an even-handed introduction to the topic, but a very tendentious commentator.
posted on 14/3/24
But I did. Taking identifiers off CVs has probably one of the biggest impacts on equality when if comes to hiring.
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No it doesn't, and in this context is an extremely stoopid suggestion because it only tackles employers bias at the point of applying for a job. It does nothing for any other forms of racism and does nothing for historical racism which has led to some people having better CVs than others.
A better CV is a better CV, with or without the name so you're not really addressing the age old problem that made us invent affirmative action, mainly because of the warped manner in which you view it.
posted on 14/3/24
They should have included one token black guy, then they could still be seen as racist but at least it would show they had acknowledged their racism and tried to address it.
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