'Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says: French'
The song disparages France players in turn, basically for not being 'really French', elaborating where their parents come from. It's quite unpleasant. Wesley Fofana called it out as "uninhibited racism".
It's sad to see that in a moment of triumph and jubilation the impulse is to disparage French players based on their backgrounds. And sadly there are many other voices in the recording, and they are obviously familiar with the words of the song. I'd be very disappointed if I heard that our two Argentinian players were involved.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 seconds ago
The song disparages France players in turn, basically for not being 'really French', elaborating where their parents come from. It's quite unpleasant. Wesley Fofana called it out as "uninhibited racism".
It's sad to see that in a moment of triumph and jubilation the impulse is to disparage French players based on their backgrounds. And sadly there are many other voices in the recording, and they are obviously familiar with the words of the song. I'd be very disappointed if I heard that our two Argentinian players were involved.
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I've seen the video.
It looks like Lisandro is in the background, sitting a few seats further back. Doesn't look like he' joining in.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
The song disparages France players in turn, basically for not being 'really French', elaborating where their parents come from. It's quite unpleasant. Wesley Fofana called it out as "uninhibited racism".
It's sad to see that in a moment of triumph and jubilation the impulse is to disparage French players based on their backgrounds. And sadly there are many other voices in the recording, and they are obviously familiar with the words of the song. I'd be very disappointed if I heard that our two Argentinian players were involved.
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Garnacho and Lis joined in?
A couple of things here:
1. Who thought it was a good idea to sing this?
2. Who thought it a good idea to sing it knowing they were getting filmed?
I too would be disappointed if the United players were involved and, if they were, I would hope they'd be punished even if it did hurt us.
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
The song disparages France players in turn, basically for not being 'really French', elaborating where their parents come from. It's quite unpleasant. Wesley Fofana called it out as "uninhibited racism".
It's sad to see that in a moment of triumph and jubilation the impulse is to disparage French players based on their backgrounds. And sadly there are many other voices in the recording, and they are obviously familiar with the words of the song. I'd be very disappointed if I heard that our two Argentinian players were involved.
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Garnacho and Lis joined in?
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I said I'd be disappointed *if* it turned out they joined in. I have no information either way (though encouraged by Barf's comment above). Just wanted to make it clear this isn't an issue where club loyalties should dictate our response.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
A couple of things here:
1. Who thought it was a good idea to sing this?
2. Who thought it a good idea to sing it knowing they were getting filmed?
I too would be disappointed if the United players were involved and, if they were, I would hope they'd be punished even if it did hurt us.
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Agreed, Diafol
It was Forfana that complained to Chelsea, and there’s five French lads on the books there.
To say this was ill advised is an understatement.
Chelsea’s French players should stop him from getting on the coach for the first away game.
Why were they singing it in the first place? They'd just won the Copa America - where's the link to France?
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
A couple of things here:
1. Who thought it was a good idea to sing this?
2. Who thought it a good idea to sing it knowing they were getting filmed?
I too would be disappointed if the United players were involved and, if they were, I would hope they'd be punished even if it did hurt us.
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Agreed, Diafol
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Even if for no other reason than the moral high ground I'm on is very comfortable.
You come to accept fecking idiocy from a few nob head fans. I supposed it shouldn’t be a surprise that there are a few nob head players too. Wtf was he thinking of?
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Probably the same reason people will dress up as Mario but won’t do black face.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Probably the same reason people will dress up as Mario but won’t do black face.
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not sure you got question mate, was a genuine question
Good news for Chelsea, gives them an excuse not to play him.
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Probably the same reason people will dress up as Mario but won’t do black face.
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not sure you got question mate, was a genuine question
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Well none of your examples question the nationality of people involved simply because they’re black.
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 4 minutes ago
You come to accept fecking idiocy from a few nob head fans. I supposed it shouldn’t be a surprise that there are a few nob head players too. Wtf was he thinking of?
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Oh please. It's clearly ingrained into their culture. I'm not saying it's all of them, but to be comfortable enough to livestream it to your fanbase is telling.
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 4 minutes ago
You come to accept fecking idiocy from a few nob head fans. I supposed it shouldn’t be a surprise that there are a few nob head players too. Wtf was he thinking of?
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Oh please. It's clearly ingrained into their culture. I'm not saying it's all of them, but to be comfortable enough to livestream it to your fanbase is telling.
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Fernandez is just trying to get the hardcore Chelsea fans onside
Well none of your examples question the nationality of people involved simply because they’re black.
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ok, yeah get that, and am not saying the song is a clever song to sing at all...
I just don't get why some forms of racism go without any notice what so ever..
Bernado's twitter joke about Mendy for example... if he'd have sent a picture of baby Mario on the Nintendo Wii, and said it looked like an italian player, wouldn't have been even noticed?
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 11 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Why am I shocked a Leeds fan is excusing racism, biggest Tory club up north
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 46 seconds ago
Well none of your examples question the nationality of people involved simply because they’re black.
----------------
ok, yeah get that, and am not saying the song is a clever song to sing at all...
I just don't get why some forms of racism go without any notice what so ever..
Bernado's twitter joke about Mendy for example... if he'd have sent a picture of baby Mario on the Nintendo Wii, and said it looked like an italian player, wouldn't have been even noticed?
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Not sure how ten German bombers is racist anyway.
Sending trope pictures, questioning people’s nationality based on colour alone and throwing that they can run… all racist.
Why am I shocked a Leeds fan is excusing racism, biggest Tory club up north
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mate where have I excused anything here?, genuine questions, I've condemned the song, I'm just wondering why we seem to have difference acceptable levels of racism?
Not sure how ten German bombers is racist anyway.
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its prob not racist tbf, but very poor taste.. we're talking about killing other human beings here, in the midst of war..
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure how ten German bombers is racist anyway.
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its prob not racist tbf, but very poor taste.. we're talking about killing other human beings here, in the midst of war..
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Which is why I don’t sing it.
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posted on 17/7/24
'Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says: French'
posted on 17/7/24
The song disparages France players in turn, basically for not being 'really French', elaborating where their parents come from. It's quite unpleasant. Wesley Fofana called it out as "uninhibited racism".
It's sad to see that in a moment of triumph and jubilation the impulse is to disparage French players based on their backgrounds. And sadly there are many other voices in the recording, and they are obviously familiar with the words of the song. I'd be very disappointed if I heard that our two Argentinian players were involved.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 seconds ago
The song disparages France players in turn, basically for not being 'really French', elaborating where their parents come from. It's quite unpleasant. Wesley Fofana called it out as "uninhibited racism".
It's sad to see that in a moment of triumph and jubilation the impulse is to disparage French players based on their backgrounds. And sadly there are many other voices in the recording, and they are obviously familiar with the words of the song. I'd be very disappointed if I heard that our two Argentinian players were involved.
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I've seen the video.
It looks like Lisandro is in the background, sitting a few seats further back. Doesn't look like he' joining in.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
The song disparages France players in turn, basically for not being 'really French', elaborating where their parents come from. It's quite unpleasant. Wesley Fofana called it out as "uninhibited racism".
It's sad to see that in a moment of triumph and jubilation the impulse is to disparage French players based on their backgrounds. And sadly there are many other voices in the recording, and they are obviously familiar with the words of the song. I'd be very disappointed if I heard that our two Argentinian players were involved.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Garnacho and Lis joined in?
posted on 17/7/24
A couple of things here:
1. Who thought it was a good idea to sing this?
2. Who thought it a good idea to sing it knowing they were getting filmed?
I too would be disappointed if the United players were involved and, if they were, I would hope they'd be punished even if it did hurt us.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
The song disparages France players in turn, basically for not being 'really French', elaborating where their parents come from. It's quite unpleasant. Wesley Fofana called it out as "uninhibited racism".
It's sad to see that in a moment of triumph and jubilation the impulse is to disparage French players based on their backgrounds. And sadly there are many other voices in the recording, and they are obviously familiar with the words of the song. I'd be very disappointed if I heard that our two Argentinian players were involved.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Garnacho and Lis joined in?
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I said I'd be disappointed *if* it turned out they joined in. I have no information either way (though encouraged by Barf's comment above). Just wanted to make it clear this isn't an issue where club loyalties should dictate our response.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
A couple of things here:
1. Who thought it was a good idea to sing this?
2. Who thought it a good idea to sing it knowing they were getting filmed?
I too would be disappointed if the United players were involved and, if they were, I would hope they'd be punished even if it did hurt us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, Diafol
posted on 17/7/24
It was Forfana that complained to Chelsea, and there’s five French lads on the books there.
To say this was ill advised is an understatement.
posted on 17/7/24
Chelsea’s French players should stop him from getting on the coach for the first away game.
posted on 17/7/24
Why were they singing it in the first place? They'd just won the Copa America - where's the link to France?
posted on 17/7/24
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
A couple of things here:
1. Who thought it was a good idea to sing this?
2. Who thought it a good idea to sing it knowing they were getting filmed?
I too would be disappointed if the United players were involved and, if they were, I would hope they'd be punished even if it did hurt us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, Diafol
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Even if for no other reason than the moral high ground I'm on is very comfortable.
posted on 17/7/24
You come to accept fecking idiocy from a few nob head fans. I supposed it shouldn’t be a surprise that there are a few nob head players too. Wtf was he thinking of?
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably the same reason people will dress up as Mario but won’t do black face.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably the same reason people will dress up as Mario but won’t do black face.
-----------------------------------------------------------
not sure you got question mate, was a genuine question
posted on 17/7/24
Good news for Chelsea, gives them an excuse not to play him.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably the same reason people will dress up as Mario but won’t do black face.
-----------------------------------------------------------
not sure you got question mate, was a genuine question
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Well none of your examples question the nationality of people involved simply because they’re black.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 4 minutes ago
You come to accept fecking idiocy from a few nob head fans. I supposed it shouldn’t be a surprise that there are a few nob head players too. Wtf was he thinking of?
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Oh please. It's clearly ingrained into their culture. I'm not saying it's all of them, but to be comfortable enough to livestream it to your fanbase is telling.
posted on 17/7/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 4 minutes ago
You come to accept fecking idiocy from a few nob head fans. I supposed it shouldn’t be a surprise that there are a few nob head players too. Wtf was he thinking of?
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Oh please. It's clearly ingrained into their culture. I'm not saying it's all of them, but to be comfortable enough to livestream it to your fanbase is telling.
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Fernandez is just trying to get the hardcore Chelsea fans onside
posted on 17/7/24
Well none of your examples question the nationality of people involved simply because they’re black.
----------------
ok, yeah get that, and am not saying the song is a clever song to sing at all...
I just don't get why some forms of racism go without any notice what so ever..
Bernado's twitter joke about Mendy for example... if he'd have sent a picture of baby Mario on the Nintendo Wii, and said it looked like an italian player, wouldn't have been even noticed?
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 11 minutes ago
Ok, will need some education here...
how does this song differ from the other racist chants about other countries?
I mean,
English to the Swedish 'you're sh111t, but yer birds are fit'
the German bombers song?
I raised something on the Leeds thread a while ago.. we have an Italian player... "he eats spaghetti, drinks Moretti, his c8cks f8cking massiiiiiive"... that song is racist on a couple of levels... 1. we're insinuating all Italians eat spegetti etc, and 2. we're insinuating that because he's a black lad, he has a massive c8ck. the press/media never mentioned anything about the Italian part.
isn't the meaning racist 'to discriminate against another race' right?.
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Why am I shocked a Leeds fan is excusing racism, biggest Tory club up north
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 46 seconds ago
Well none of your examples question the nationality of people involved simply because they’re black.
----------------
ok, yeah get that, and am not saying the song is a clever song to sing at all...
I just don't get why some forms of racism go without any notice what so ever..
Bernado's twitter joke about Mendy for example... if he'd have sent a picture of baby Mario on the Nintendo Wii, and said it looked like an italian player, wouldn't have been even noticed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure how ten German bombers is racist anyway.
Sending trope pictures, questioning people’s nationality based on colour alone and throwing that they can run… all racist.
posted on 17/7/24
Why am I shocked a Leeds fan is excusing racism, biggest Tory club up north
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mate where have I excused anything here?, genuine questions, I've condemned the song, I'm just wondering why we seem to have difference acceptable levels of racism?
posted on 17/7/24
Not sure how ten German bombers is racist anyway.
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its prob not racist tbf, but very poor taste.. we're talking about killing other human beings here, in the midst of war..
posted on 17/7/24
comment by The Spanish Italians - It dint come home (U21595)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure how ten German bombers is racist anyway.
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its prob not racist tbf, but very poor taste.. we're talking about killing other human beings here, in the midst of war..
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Which is why I don’t sing it.
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