'Lying am i, There'sOnlyOneReds?

Here's the link:

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/98236

Enjoy the read.'

Sorry Chicken - please could you post the direct quote where TOOR said that 'i know nothing about football, just because i said the gap between Barca & Chelsea had grown since they last played them.'

comment by Chicken (on a Basketball) ©™ (U1043)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneReds,

Backtracking since i provided the link, i see.

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That's funny how I backtracked when I said exactly the same things which I say in the link you provide, you really are special aren't you?

red_man23,

I say I believe in god once it doesn't make me a Catholic.

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Of course it doesn't, because "Catholic" is not the only religion where there is a God.

If you said you had a religion, this would make you religious, would it not?

And if i mocked you because of your religion, that would make me prejudice - right?

'I don’t care who they are. If people are using racist language towards people to offend, then they are racially abusive(1), are racist(2) & are using racism(3). There is no differing between the lot. You cannot use points 1 & 2 & be any different to someone using 2 & 3.'

So if you call a woman a female dog you are sexist - thanks for clearing that up

Where in here does it say using racist language cos someone player for a certain football team?:

rac•ism noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

'because of your religion'

There - now even you have said it BECAUSE OF YOUR RELIGION!! Not because of which football team you play for!

*Where in here does it say using racist language cos someone player for a certain football team makes you a racist?:

What I'd really like to know is why Chicken thinks it's makes him racist but Evra does not.

Anyone able to answer that for me?

As a word, racism is an “-ism”, a belief that can be described by a word ending in the suffix -ism, pertaining to race. As its etymology would suggest, its usage is relatively recent and as such its definition is not entirely settled. The Oxford English Dictionary defines racism as the “belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races” and the expression of such prejudice

There.

Chicken

I was using Catholicism as an example, I could have used Judaism or any other religion as an example. He said the word black (in the context 'why black' ) once. How does that make him racist?

Where did Suarez 'mock' Evra because of his race?

How did Suarez's two words show prejudice at all?

Do you know the true meaning of the word racist?

From the dictionary of Psychology

Racism;

Prejudice based on race and characterized (sic) by attitudes and beliefs about the inferior nature of persons of other races.

So in short for a person to be 'racist' they have to hold the beliefs that those of a different race are inferior to themselves.

Again where did Suarez do that when asking Evra 'why black'?

belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race
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Like Redknapp the other day then.

Robbing,

Evra reported the racism/racist remarks.

Robbing_Hoody

Like Redknapp the other day then

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No, because he didnt do this part:

"so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior"

(the most important part of that particular sentence).

Can someone clarify this for me?

Is being black, as described by Suarez, a characteristic, ability or quality?

'“belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races” and the expression of such prejudice'

You quoted definition - where does that say calling someone a name because of what team they support is racist?

If you hit a woman are you sexist?

'No, because he didnt do this part:

"so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior"

(the most important part of that particular sentence).'

So where did Suarez do that? As it's so important (which i completely agree with!)

comment by Chicken (on a Basketball) ©™ (U1043) posted 5 minutes ago

Robbing,

Evra reported the racism/racist remarks.

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That's not what I asked. Evra said he does not think that Suarez is racist. I was wondering why you do if he does not.

I hate diving, it is awful

Look, your opinions on racism are clearly different to mine, I'm not going to go round in circles. One thing is for sure, had Suarez not been involved here, i'm 100% sure we would all be singing from the same hymn sheet.

Chicken (on a Basketball) ©™ (U1043)

Except Evra apparently.

I'll ask again - if Evra does not think Suarez is racist why do you?

Chicken

" One thing is for sure, had Suarez not been involved here, i'm 100% sure we would all be singing from the same hymn sheet".

I wouldn't be. I'm not just saying this for arguments sake. But my definition of racism is the one given in the Psychological dictionary, as that's what I am studying. You can make a remark, or comment, that is racist once. That doesn't make you a racist. To be a racist you have to believe that those of a different race are inferior. It's more about beliefs and attitudes than a single comment.

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comment by Sir Digby - DAMN! (U6039)
posted 11 minutes ago
I hate diving, it is awful
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Stay on topic Digby

Robbing

I'll ask again - if Evra does not think Suarez is racist why do you?

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If you burgled my house & i said you wasn't a burglar, would you be a burglar?

Whatever;

If Evra does not think Suarez is racist why do you?

'i'm 100% sure we would all be singing from the same hymn sheet.'

Well you would be 100% wrong! I have siad this for years now - it really annoys me how the racist problem is watered down by was is no more than abuse.

'If you burgled my house & i said you wasn't a burglar, would you be a burglar?'

Yes - but that is a physical thing. What about if you said I hated TOOR but TOOR said I don't and so do I - do I still hate him?

I've answered yours - now you answer mine:

if you hit a woman are you sexist?