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posted on 17/7/24

He’s gonna get pelters for that apology.

posted on 17/7/24

Least that means we might finally get rid of Enzo

Woeful place and obviously a woeful human being

Might keep Gallagher

posted on 17/7/24

Woeful player *

posted on 17/7/24

If the club has any morals we’ll get rid of him asap

posted on 17/7/24

comment by TLLL (U4640)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
He’s gonna get pelters for that apology.
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Evidently wasn’t written by him either lol

posted on 17/7/24

comment by CSTP (U1453)
posted about 5 hours ago
He put up a vague comic sans apology

At least it’s a start
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It would have been much better to put up a video or set up a TV response. Feel written apologies on twitter have a sense of anonymity even when they are clearly official posts.

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 hours, 39 minutes ago
We're probably better without Enzo anyway. Caicedo was so much better in the side when Enzo didn't play and he was allowed to get forward and get more involved in the opponent's half. And we've bought the likes of Dewsbury-Hall who are going to be much more suited to this Maresca side than chubby, slow Enzo.
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We never missed him when he went for surgery

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted about 8 hours ago
It’s a sweeping generalisation but South America in general is bad on a lot of social issues.

Look at Bentancur this summer with his Son comments, Moura spent half his time at spurs liking homophobic comments on Twitter.

Luis Suarez

Etc etc
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Suarez is just a disgusting human generally

posted on 17/7/24

Statement from the club

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/club-statement-july-17-2024

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 13 hours, 23 minutes ago
We're probably better without Enzo anyway. Caicedo was so much better in the side when Enzo didn't play and he was allowed to get forward and get more involved in the opponent's half. And we've bought the likes of Dewsbury-Hall who are going to be much more suited to this Maresca side than chubby, slow Enzo.
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Actually Maresca was probably brought in partly to maximise Enzo

Which makes this even more of a farce.

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho #ComeHomeGaffa (U12980)
posted 4 hours, 50 minutes ago
If the club has any morals we’ll get rid of him asap
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I don't recall you demanding Terry's sacking...

Not defending Enzo, but just saying clubs are businesses.

If the blowback is so bad it makes sense to sell (and someone is prepared to buy) then maybe but more likely it'll be damage control and rehabilitation.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 17/7/24

I don't believe Terry did anything wrong. And in a Chelsea team full of black players who all loved him and with Drogba standing near to him as I recall I don't think for one second Terry shouted out "you black c*nt".

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 17/7/24

Enzo on the other hand clear as day racist chants

comment by CSTP (U1453)

posted on 17/7/24

The main difference is Enzo deliberately live-streamed himself saying that stuff to the whole world. He didn’t see anything to be ashamed of.

With Terry, if he did say that, you can at least give the argument that it was a more private thing that he thought in a moment of frustration and not as intentional.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 17/7/24

Terry so obviously said "you blind c*nt" to Anton as they were arguing about an incident on the pitch. Saying "black c*nt" to him makes zero sense in the context of the incident, especially as JT was surrounded by black Chelsea players. Honestly can't believe anyone would think JT would shout that out.

comment by CSTP (U1453)

posted on 17/7/24

I thought he admitted he said black to Carlton Cole

posted on 17/7/24

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho #ComeHomeGaffa (U12980)
posted 4 hours, 50 minutes ago
If the club has any morals we’ll get rid of him asap
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I don't recall you demanding Terry's sacking...

Not defending Enzo, but just saying clubs are businesses.

If the blowback is so bad it makes sense to sell (and someone is prepared to buy) then maybe but more likely it'll be damage control and rehabilitation.
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The clubs are businesses point actually makes it more important that it is perceived to be doing the right thing.

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 17/7/24

comment by CSTP (U1453)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
I thought he admitted he said black to Carlton Cole
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News to me. Do you have a link to that ?

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 hours ago
Terry so obviously said "you blind c*nt" to Anton as they were arguing about an incident on the pitch. Saying "black c*nt" to him makes zero sense in the context of the incident, especially as JT was surrounded by black Chelsea players. Honestly can't believe anyone would think JT would shout that out.
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However, plenty have defended the 30-year-old by stating that he appears to instead call the QPR defender a “blind c***”, rather than “black”. However, the picture has since been muddied by an official statement by Terry, in which he admits “I thought Anton was accusing me of using a racist slur against him. I responded aggressively, saying that I never used that term.”

https://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/so-what-exactly-did-john-terry-say-to-anton-ferdinand-28665

posted on 17/7/24

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
I don't believe Terry did anything wrong. And in a Chelsea team full of black players who all loved him and with Drogba standing near to him as I recall I don't think for one second Terry shouted out "you black c*nt".
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Even Terry admitted he said black cnuut

The only dispute was the reason he said it and even thee judge who let him off said his excuse was strange

Honestly, I just think in 2011 players we're going lot more tribal on the idea of racism. They just said "It's everywhere" so back your team mate.

I think if the same incident happened now Cole and Drogba would aft very differently

posted on 17/7/24

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. #Trump2024 #BringBackMourinho #ComeHomeGaffa (U12980)
posted 4 hours, 50 minutes ago
If the club has any morals we’ll get rid of him asap
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I don't recall you demanding Terry's sacking...

Not defending Enzo, but just saying clubs are businesses.

If the blowback is so bad it makes sense to sell (and someone is prepared to buy) then maybe but more likely it'll be damage control and rehabilitation.
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The clubs are businesses point actually makes it more important that it is perceived to be doing the right thing.
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I agree totally. My point is clubs are businesses means they'll come down on Enzo like a ton of bricks but actually selling him is something they'd be very reluctant to do

posted on 17/7/24

Anyway none of this is meant to defend Enzo, he's either racist or monumentally stupid

comment by CSTP (U1453)

posted on 17/7/24

The reason selling him isn’t an option is because no one is stupid enough to pay the money we did

comment by RtM (U1097)

posted on 17/7/24

Enzo is going to have a cucurella style level of improvement this season

posted on 17/7/24

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 27 minutes ago
Anyway none of this is meant to defend Enzo, he's either racist or monumentally stupid
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Being a footballer (generalisation) it'll be the latter...this blow over, & he needs to sort his shat out playing wise this season to make amands

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