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Reasons behind OS Decision Delay?

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posted on 18/10/12

Manchester City were attracting crowds of 36,000 in League 1.

You cannot seriously believe that some mysterious benefactor is suddenly going to appear & buy WHU?

I can think of other clubs with better assets that if I was going to invest & buy it would not be West Ham at the top of my shopping list.

Reading was recently bought by a Russian, nearest competitors 23 & 25 miles away, virtually an untapped catchment area & a new ground with space to increase capacity without problems.

Brighton, brand new stadium & would not cost a 3rd of what it would cost to buy WHU.

Same with Southampton, and lets not forget the Bristol clubs, their potential in terms of purchase price & potential development in a big City is huge.

Other clubs like Leeds & Sheffield Wednesday are ripe for development and have stronger histories and bigger followings than West Ham!

comment by GOODBYE (U1029)

posted on 18/10/12

Any news on WHU and the OS?

posted on 18/10/12

Weren't West Ham 11th highest supported club in the previous year despite of playing in Championship?. As I said, your reasoning is limited. The whole east London population is around 3mil and there is only one big club, i.e. West Ham. With a brand new stadium, better transport facilities in and around why wouldn't anyone decline to invest in the club?

posted on 18/10/12

So which new stadium is this muffinboy?? Counting your chickens I think!!

The population of East London might well be 3 million, however as I have pointed out around 85% of those will be ethnic groups form countries like Somalia, Ethiopa, Afghanistan etc & who have little or no interest in football & most certainly do not have the finances either.

I like West Ham as a club but I am realistic in my thinking that you will always be everybody's favourite second team & you will never upset the status quo.

I am also realistic to know that Spurs only chance of being able to compete (in all areas) with the United's, City's, Real Madrid & Barcelona's of this world is to have a much bigger ground.

At least we are doing it our way & not off the back of other's achievements! ,whistle>

comment by GOODBYE (U1029)

posted on 18/10/12

West Ham still at Upton Park

posted on 18/10/12

Off for a while...................will respond later!

posted on 18/10/12

Whisper it, Mafia's last post was 100% correct,

posted on 18/10/12

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posted on 18/10/12

Greaves

Of course you are correct about the local population in east London, although you may be guilty of stereotyping by claiming certain people have less interest in football. From my personal observation the amount of non white fans at the Boleyn has increased hugely in the last few years.

comment by GOODBYE (U1029)

posted on 18/10/12

I think WHU will aim more at kids and young teenagers to fill the stadium up when and if they move in

posted on 18/10/12

Plus of course like all the London clubs, Spurs included, the vast majority of fans no longer come from close to the ground. Progressive innercity flight and slum clearing means most now live in Essex or outer London.

One reason I could never understand Orients objections to the proposed move.

posted on 18/10/12

THudd

You may be right and if they keep coming once they get to 18 and start paying full price it will have been a sound policy.

comment by GOODBYE (U1029)

posted on 18/10/12

If I ran WHU and we moved into the OS, then the logical thing would be to aim tickets and prices towards a younger community, not only will it fill the seats it will ensure that the the future of the club is maintained.

You will get a bigger fanbase if and when it happens. it's a no brainer on that, you just need to stay in the top flight, and I would expect that to be one of the defining factors of the stadium being granted in your favour

posted on 18/10/12

Dramatic

Plus of course like all the London clubs, Spurs included, the vast majority of fans no longer come from close to the ground.

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This is true. But neither are you going to have kids travelling half way across London, just to watch West Ham on a freebie.

posted on 18/10/12

THudd

I think the stadium decision will happen one way or the other before we know if West Ham will stay up or not this season. I doubt it would be possible to put a relegation clause in any contract. I do agree that to build on numbers we need to ensure we become a constant in the Prem.

posted on 18/10/12

This is true. But neither are you going to have kids travelling half way across London, just to watch West Ham on a freebie.
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Some overpriced pies would sway their resistance.

posted on 18/10/12

Some overpriced pies would sway their resistance.

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Supply & demand.

posted on 18/10/12

Greaves: So ethnic minorities are not interested in football and cannot afford even £10-15 tickets? What a daft thing to say!
You are probably one of those people in the 1970's who said women would never be interested in football and would never attend games.

posted on 18/10/12

myhammers............................Don't be stupid! Its a fact that the poorest people in the UK live in the Boroughs around the OS, Newham, Tower Hamlets & Walthamstow plus Hackney & Redbridge would be bankrupt if they were companies due to the amount of council tax & housing benefit they subsidise annually.

My statement is factual, most of these ethnic minorities are not interested in football, do not have much, if any, disposable income and a vast number are officially declared in poverty.

Tell me how if you are living off benefits and do not have a job you can afford to spend £15 per week on a football game?

And we all know its not just the cost of the ticket.........................................

comment by GOODBYE (U1029)

posted on 19/10/12

WHO ATE ALL THE PIES

MYHAMMERS DID

posted on 19/10/12

Greaves

Two flaws in your argument, firstly I think the main effort by West Ham will be to convince those who already would describe themselves as fans but don't attend, not in the main Newham residents.

Secondly, as for the residents of Newham yes it is a
poor area, but the less well off spend a very high proportion of thier income on luxury items, be it smoking, designer cloths or possibly football games.

posted on 19/10/12

Monsieur Greaves,

Newham might have a big portion of ethnic minority (still with 37% white British) people with no particular ethnic group is dominating but also they have highest young population. This could be a greater asset for the club's future. Have you forget to consider black people come under ethnic minority?

Again, your reasoning is limited.

posted on 19/10/12

And bearing in mind a significant number of Tottenham's fans are Jewish / Israeli! Or maybe there's one rule for them and another for all the other ethnic minorities?

And since when did poor people or those on benefits not attend football matches? Most of them seem to have the latest mobile phones, Sky TV etc, so I really don't think £15 a week would bankrupt them.

posted on 20/10/12

myhammers

Are you seriously putting Jews into the ethnic minority category?

posted on 20/10/12

Religion is an aspect of ethnicity, too.

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