Would the B teams be able to enter the Johnstone Paint Trophy?

A chance for Arsenal to get their hands on some silverware

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)

posted 2 minutes ago

So you could, in theory, have the entire of League 1 being full of Prem B sides and to gain promotion to the Championship you have to take the top 4 from League 2 for auto-places with 12 clubs having a playoff for the remaining two places? That'd be a long season.

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)

posted 50 seconds ago

IS this only to be open to Prem sides? Or can a Championship side have a B team? Is their B team automatically disbanded on relegation from the Prem/Champ?

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Both are valid questions but I guess we will find out as more details are released.

How does it work in Spain - which clubs have a B team?

I'd be more in favour of this had the FA not passed the EPPP. A better level of competition for players around the 18-21 mark is great, but since the top academies can now sweep up all the best youth players for minimal cost it does tip things too much towards an oligopoly.

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 43 seconds ago
IS this only to be open to Prem sides? Or can a Championship side have a B team? Is their B team automatically disbanded on relegation from the Prem/Champ?
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Yes it would be a joke if you have the likes of Wigan B and not Villa- (not impossible that the two clubs could switch leagues in future) etc

So bigger clubs will have even more reason to buy all the promising players from smaller English teams, thus improving their cause further whilst weakening the smaller clubs further. Plus less loan signings for the smaller clubs, which will also weaken them.

All I can see is a load of clubs going out of business, just to suit the PL's greed.

In theory, HC. But in reality 'B' teams of under 21 year olds will not be as competitive as that.

How does this affect the Conference?

comment by Marcelino- Back in Europe (U6171)
posted 1 second ago
How does this affect the Conference?
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Promoted teams will go to League 3 and vice versa.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
The turnover of players from B teams is going to be great, so the chances of B teams dominating League 1 is almost impossible.
The players developed by PL clubs in B teams will in the main leave the club before they are 21. The difference between now, though, is they will have a lot of lower league experience, which will benefit clubs in league 1 and 2, who can pick these players up for free.

People seem to ignore the fact that lots of lower league clubs are in financial difficulty, over the last few years it is increasingly an issue. B teams won't increase the problem. As said, they will infact offer increased security to smaller clubs.


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Why not avoid the stockpiling of talent by the bigger clubs in the first place? Then the market will allow the lower league clubs to afford the same players. Greedy Prem clubs.

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 17 seconds ago
So you could, in theory, have the entire of League 1 being full of Prem B sides and to gain promotion to the Championship you have to take the top 4 from League 2 for auto-places with 12 clubs having a playoff for the remaining two places? That'd be a long season.
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That would never happen if the bateau is restricted to prem clubs, because when a team is relegated their b team would cease to exist, and the newly promoted club would gain a new b team in league 3?

Meaning every season three team will be dissolved (probably the majority being in league 3 after being in existence for a year) and other clubs will rattle up the structure to allow for the new b teams..

Case in point would be Newcastle who would have had a successful b team prior to their relegation. Although I would expect to see 10 or so prem b teams in league 1, but it will be potentially a more lucrative league than the championship for the remaining "proper" clubs

comment by Robert pan Versie #20 (U1145)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Marcelino- Back in Europe(U6171)
posted 1 second ago
How does this affect the Conference?
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Promoted teams will go to League 3 and vice versa.
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I think that's ridiculous.

why?

Why not avoid the stockpiling of talent by the bigger clubs in the first place? Then the market will allow the lower league clubs to afford the same players. Greedy Prem clubs.
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Many smaller clubs are reliant on transfer fees to survive.

So what would happen if the PL team got relegated?

Also do all PL teams have to have a B team or is it by choice?

TBH i can only see probably about 10PL teams having a B Team.

Arsenal, United, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, Tottenham, Newcastle. Maybe Southampton & Vila.

So is every club in the FL going to have a "B" team?

I don't see how this affects teams with regards to stockpiling of players? Presumably this just replaces the club's u21's team and league??! And in.return the mass of players released on frees after not making.it will be better..

Increased gates and tv revenue will reduce lower league clubs reliance on transfer fees too. While also giving their promising young players more exposure, increasing their value!

Fack sake ignore me, I'm not thinking this out well at all.

comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 4 seconds ago



So what would happen if the PL team got relegated?


They would go into the Championship


Also do all PL teams have to have a B team or is it by choice?

Choice


TBH i can only see probably about 10PL teams having a B Team.

Arsenal, United, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, Tottenham, Newcastle. Maybe Southampton & Vila.
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That will be seen. Fulham have one of the strongest U21 teams around.

Conference teams work long hard seasons and deserve League Two football.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 41 seconds ago
Why not avoid the stockpiling of talent by the bigger clubs in the first place? Then the market will allow the lower league clubs to afford the same players. Greedy Prem clubs.
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Many smaller clubs are reliant on transfer fees to survive.

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Exactly. This is because the market is inflated and they have to hustle to even maintain their bread-and-butter squads. I have a mate in the Charlton scouting team who's always telling me how they're hunting 9 year olds.

comment by Marcelino- Back in Europe (U6171)
posted 1 minute ago
Conference teams work long hard seasons and deserve League Two football.
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This is the one issue I have. They should put the top half of the conference in the season before into League 3 (top 2 -+ play off into League 2) and split the B teams into League 3 and the conference.

comment by Marcelino- Back in Europe (U6171)
posted 42 seconds ago
Conference teams work long hard seasons and deserve League Two football.
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Amd they will still be rewarded with a professional league structure.

In fact.it opens up more football league spots if not all prem teams take up the offer / they decide to use 24 teams as in other leagues.

Also league 3 will probably be more lucrative for the club's than the current league two.

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Marcelino- Back in Europe(U6171)
posted 42 seconds ago
Conference teams work long hard seasons and deserve League Two football.
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Amd they will still be rewarded with a professional league structure.

In fact.it opens up more football league spots if not all prem teams take up the offer / they decide to use 24 teams as in other leagues.

Also league 3 will probably be more lucrative for the club's than the current league two.
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True that actually. Getting relegated from League two won't be so bad after all.

Exactly. This is because the market is inflated and they have to hustle to even maintain their bread-and-butter squads. I have a mate in the Charlton scouting team who's always telling me how they're hunting 9 year olds.
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Not even concerning squads and buying players, they rely on transfer fees to pay the bills.
B teams would increase their chances of selling for decent money, while also increasing the number of players with league experience and PL club development looking for clubs on frees.

Win win for lower league clubs.

They should promote four clubs to League Two. The ordinary two from the Conference and two from League 3.

The two worst performing sides in League Two go to the Conference and the other two are relegated to League Three.