Spurs have seriously won the lottery. Serial trophy Dodgers get invited the the top table. I guess all those NFL games were worth it in the end....
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Honestly there is some bed wetting going on over this tbh.
Of course we will still care about winning our domestic league each year, this is just a CL replacement, with minimum of 18 matches a season.
Will it have the same excitement? Who knows, I certainly hope so, but it's no less setting up a closed shop for the rich clubs than the PL/CL were, or the TV rights allocations of most European leagues are.
UEFA and FIFA are about as corrupt as they come, and you can see it now as the scramble to protect their income from these horrible horrible clubs that want to exploit their own franchises.
Hopefully the idea will evolve to see the bottom two from each league booted yearly, with the top 7th placed teams having a playoff.
Then let in the CL quarter finalists, and EL winners.
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If you look at this prem season, the only drama left is the race for European slots.
You the add the money the six sides get from this ESL and what does it do to the prem and the clubs who aren't in it?
The whole thing is a disgrace.
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Nothing will change, teams don't ignore the FA cup because the PL is worth more.
And that's aside from the fact that dropping from 1st to 10th in the PL would cost your club £10m in reward revenue alone, that's before the televisation fees.
It's change, people just don't like change, people still bemoan the loss of the old European cup ffs
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posted 2 minutes ago
Spurs have seriously won the lottery. Serial trophy Dodgers get invited the the top table. I guess all those NFL games were worth it in the end....
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This is why I hope there is relegation bought in, spurs won't survive up there ffs. I do see why they have gone for teams with the biggest fanbases of course.
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posted 2 minutes ago
Spurs have seriously won the lottery. Serial trophy Dodgers get invited the the top table. I guess all those NFL games were worth it in the end....
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This is why I hope there is relegation bought in, spurs won't survive up there ffs. I do see why they have gone for teams with the biggest fanbases of course.
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It’s where it falls down for me, in purely idealistic terms. Three of the English teams have never won the European Cup/CL so have no pedigree at all. But at least Arsenal and City can point to sustained periods of domestic dominance.
I’m not sure, but isn’t it the case that the 15 founder teams (horrible yank term 🤢) won’t be able to be relegated. It’s the whole idea of it, isn’t it???
What the hell is wrong with the Champions League?!
It's the best competition in sport, yes you may end up playing a minnow in the group stages but it isn't just about the big teams. That minnow earnt the right to play against the Liverpools and Real Madrids of this world.
Also I'd rather eat a bowl of my own sick than play Atletico every year.
All in all a horrible horrible idea.
comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
What the hell is wrong with the Champions League?!
It's the best competition in sport, yes you may end up playing a minnow in the group stages but it isn't just about the big teams. That minnow earnt the right to play against the Liverpools and Real Madrids of this world.
Also I'd rather eat a bowl of my own sick than play Atletico every year.
All in all a horrible horrible idea.
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Well that's fine because you won't play atletico every year.
The CL is all great and good, but most teams get 4 home games a year out of it.
The new system will be 9 minimum.
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posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
Spurs have seriously won the lottery. Serial trophy Dodgers get invited the the top table. I guess all those NFL games were worth it in the end....
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This is why I hope there is relegation bought in, spurs won't survive up there ffs. I do see why they have gone for teams with the biggest fanbases of course.
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It’s where it falls down for me, in purely idealistic terms. Three of the English teams have never won the European Cup/CL so have no pedigree at all. But at least Arsenal and City can point to sustained periods of domestic dominance.
I’m not sure, but isn’t it the case that the 15 founder teams (horrible yank term 🤢) won’t be able to be relegated. It’s the whole idea of it, isn’t it???
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The is just the first vision/incarnation of it.
Look how the European cup has evolved, and new changes coming in again soon. Or the PL which has changed over the years too.
FIFA and UEFA will climb down if relegation/promotion is introduced and it's based on participation in their competitions.
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posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
What the hell is wrong with the Champions League?!
It's the best competition in sport, yes you may end up playing a minnow in the group stages but it isn't just about the big teams. That minnow earnt the right to play against the Liverpools and Real Madrids of this world.
Also I'd rather eat a bowl of my own sick than play Atletico every year.
All in all a horrible horrible idea.
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Well that's fine because you won't play atletico every year.
The CL is all great and good, but most teams get 4 home games a year out of it.
The new system will be 9 minimum.
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If they don't get more than 3/4 home games it's because they weren't good enough in the competition.
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posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
What the hell is wrong with the Champions League?!
It's the best competition in sport, yes you may end up playing a minnow in the group stages but it isn't just about the big teams. That minnow earnt the right to play against the Liverpools and Real Madrids of this world.
Also I'd rather eat a bowl of my own sick than play Atletico every year.
All in all a horrible horrible idea.
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Well that's fine because you won't play atletico every year.
The CL is all great and good, but most teams get 4 home games a year out of it.
The new system will be 9 minimum.
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If they don't get more than 3/4 home games it's because they weren't good enough in the competition.
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Or you had an unlucky draw, suspensions, Injuries etc.
You asked what was wrong, UEFA own 51% of the competition, coin loads of the top, and it doesn't give the teams enough games/exposure/TV rights.
Some great discussions had on here over the weekend. Disappointed I wasn't part of it.
Regarding this Super League...my understanding is that this is a break away from UEFA, not the domestic competitions. Apparently the 'big' clubs are not happy at all about the new distribution of the CL money because apparently there's a significant amount that's going to UEFA but they're not disclosing (or haven't disclosed as yet) what this amount is for. The european giants think they should get this money.
Just because you disagree with the breakaway league, don't cloud your judgement on just what UEFA have been doing these past years as well and what they are capable of.
Also has anyone read up on the proposed plans for the new european competition format. They literally just want to flood the game with more televised games so they can earn more TV money. They themselves literally do not care at all about fair competition.
Clubs & managers have been crying for years now about the fixture congestions and the toll it takes on everyone involved (not just players). Not once has any of these governing bodies taken their concerns on board.
That being said, I personally don't have a huge problem with a breakaway european competition. My problem is with the permanent placement of certain teams. That specific rule just utterly devalues the essence of sport in general. That's the disgusting part for me.
Yeah, you get the feeling that the clubs have been threatening this to UEFA for quite some time. UEFA seem to think they can do whatever they want to further their own ends. Now the clubs are calling their bluff.
That’s one possible angle....
It's really more of a stand off between UEFA and these clubs at the moment and it's all centered around money.
They want this Super League to be an upgrade on the current Champions League, so that the best play the best, but UEFA have come out and said that they won't be able to participate in any other domestic and European competitions if they do.
One of them has to back down somewhere and I believe it will end up being UEFA.
There's three founders yet to be announced, you imagine it will be the two German clubs and PSG (Who perhaps don't want to upset FIFA before their world cup)
That means this league will have the best representatives from the top 5 leagues in Europe, so to me it's no surprise there will be 5 "guest spots" which will probably go to the next highest performing team in each league, or will have some basis with regards to the CL/EL
either way it will still be possible for other clubs to reach the ESL, whilst they can offer a sustained product in terms of viewership from the base 15 teams.
Honestly some of the outrage is nothing other than hyperbolic bed wetting, embarrassing some of the filling in the blanks that was going on yesterday.
UEFA can't even ban teams from their competitions for a set of rules the club's signed up to ffs, they will have a hard time booting these clubs.
Bet we drop out of the league cup, but that's well overdue tbh
These clubs have no attachment to UEFA anymore though do they? If the ESL is approved?
With it being a 20 team league, I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up changing dates to a weekend (essentially meaning more viewers across the world) because it would only be a full season anyway. Essentially making the rest of the European leagues obsolete.
I don't even think players representing nations would be that bothered either because they don't earn that much money playing for their countries. Why would a play be bothered earning x amount for their nations when they will earn 5x in wages playing in the super league.
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posted 1 minute ago
These clubs have no attachment to UEFA anymore though do they? If the ESL is approved?
With it being a 20 team league, I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up changing dates to a weekend (essentially meaning more viewers across the world) because it would only be a full season anyway. Essentially making the rest of the European leagues obsolete.
I don't even think players representing nations would be that bothered either because they don't earn that much money playing for their countries. Why would a play be bothered earning x amount for their nations when they will earn 5x in wages playing in the super league.
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They can't move dates to the weekend, it's been done in a manner to respect their domestic schedules.
That's league and cup competitions, it's taking the CL/EL matchdays is all.
Moving it to the weekends would be commercial suicide
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Also it's not a 20 team league, it's 2x10 team leagues with a playoff.
Seriously before you get riled up about it, you should try finding our what it's about!!
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Honestly there is some bed wetting going on over this tbh.
Of course we will still care about winning our domestic league each year, this is just a CL replacement, with minimum of 18 matches a season.
Will it have the same excitement? Who knows, I certainly hope so, but it's no less setting up a closed shop for the rich clubs than the PL/CL were, or the TV rights allocations of most European leagues are.
UEFA and FIFA are about as corrupt as they come, and you can see it now as the scramble to protect their income from these horrible horrible clubs that want to exploit their own franchises.
Hopefully the idea will evolve to see the bottom two from each league booted yearly, with the top 7th placed teams having a playoff.
Then let in the CL quarter finalists, and EL winners.
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If you look at this prem season, the only drama left is the race for European slots.
You the add the money the six sides get from this ESL and what does it do to the prem and the clubs who aren't in it?
The whole thing is a disgrace.
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Nothing will change, teams don't ignore the FA cup because the PL is worth more.
And that's aside from the fact that dropping from 1st to 10th in the PL would cost your club £10m in reward revenue alone, that's before the televisation fees.
It's change, people just don't like change, people still bemoan the loss of the old European cup ffs
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Of course things will change. You are only playing for 1st position and avoiding relegation now. Where is the carrot for teams like Leicester pushing for CL?
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Have you read about it at all?!
It doesn't seem like it
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posted 8 minutes ago
These clubs have no attachment to UEFA anymore though do they? If the ESL is approved?
With it being a 20 team league, I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up changing dates to a weekend (essentially meaning more viewers across the world) because it would only be a full season anyway. Essentially making the rest of the European leagues obsolete.
I don't even think players representing nations would be that bothered either because they don't earn that much money playing for their countries. Why would a play be bothered earning x amount for their nations when they will earn 5x in wages playing in the super league.
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Exactly. No one was bothered about playing for Man City before 2008. Money talks, that's why the ESL will work if it goes ahead. UEFA are worried because their biggest assets are all leaving, or most of them anyway.
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Also it's not a 20 team league, it's 2x10 team leagues with a playoff.
Seriously before you get riled up about it, you should try finding our what it's about!!
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I'm not getting riled up about it and I know what it is.
You'd play League A fixtures on one weekend and then League B on the following weekend, essentially making it a 38 matchday season. Why do you think the tournament starts in August and finishes in May? They won't just play them all at once.
I'm not saying they would move it to the weekends, but threaten and punish them all they want, it just gives them more reason to move. It's all well and good saying deduct them points, relegate them, strip their titles etc, it doesn't matter because it's not about heritage or league positions because they are going into their own league anyway.
They could quite easily play fixtures on a weekend for more commercial revenue. It ruins the domestic leagues as we know it because everybody will watch the ESL, that's what I'm saying. I know they aren't planning to do it, but they could change that if they really wanted to.
I doubt they will change it to weekends, my point is they very much could.
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Honestly there is some bed wetting going on over this tbh.
Of course we will still care about winning our domestic league each year, this is just a CL replacement, with minimum of 18 matches a season.
Will it have the same excitement? Who knows, I certainly hope so, but it's no less setting up a closed shop for the rich clubs than the PL/CL were, or the TV rights allocations of most European leagues are.
UEFA and FIFA are about as corrupt as they come, and you can see it now as the scramble to protect their income from these horrible horrible clubs that want to exploit their own franchises.
Hopefully the idea will evolve to see the bottom two from each league booted yearly, with the top 7th placed teams having a playoff.
Then let in the CL quarter finalists, and EL winners.
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If you look at this prem season, the only drama left is the race for European slots.
You the add the money the six sides get from this ESL and what does it do to the prem and the clubs who aren't in it?
The whole thing is a disgrace.
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Nothing will change, teams don't ignore the FA cup because the PL is worth more.
And that's aside from the fact that dropping from 1st to 10th in the PL would cost your club £10m in reward revenue alone, that's before the televisation fees.
It's change, people just don't like change, people still bemoan the loss of the old European cup ffs
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Of course things will change. You are only playing for 1st position and avoiding relegation now. Where is the carrot for teams like Leicester pushing for CL?
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Have you read about it at all?!
It doesn't seem like it
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Well it does. there are 15 teams that are guaranteed entry to it every season no matter what. Then 5 teams, one from each of the top divisions that get into it based on league position. So essentially it is a closed shop that will always means those six teams from the Prem will be in the ESL and have a distorted income compared to other Prem teams.
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They always have had distorted income. Liverpool earn £50m more a year from the PL than Everton, the top 4 are pretty much the same every year and coin it in from Europe, that inequality already exists
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posted on 19/4/21
Spurs have seriously won the lottery. Serial trophy Dodgers get invited the the top table. I guess all those NFL games were worth it in the end....
posted on 19/4/21
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 26 minutes ago
Honestly there is some bed wetting going on over this tbh.
Of course we will still care about winning our domestic league each year, this is just a CL replacement, with minimum of 18 matches a season.
Will it have the same excitement? Who knows, I certainly hope so, but it's no less setting up a closed shop for the rich clubs than the PL/CL were, or the TV rights allocations of most European leagues are.
UEFA and FIFA are about as corrupt as they come, and you can see it now as the scramble to protect their income from these horrible horrible clubs that want to exploit their own franchises.
Hopefully the idea will evolve to see the bottom two from each league booted yearly, with the top 7th placed teams having a playoff.
Then let in the CL quarter finalists, and EL winners.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you look at this prem season, the only drama left is the race for European slots.
You the add the money the six sides get from this ESL and what does it do to the prem and the clubs who aren't in it?
The whole thing is a disgrace.
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Nothing will change, teams don't ignore the FA cup because the PL is worth more.
And that's aside from the fact that dropping from 1st to 10th in the PL would cost your club £10m in reward revenue alone, that's before the televisation fees.
It's change, people just don't like change, people still bemoan the loss of the old European cup ffs
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
Spurs have seriously won the lottery. Serial trophy Dodgers get invited the the top table. I guess all those NFL games were worth it in the end....
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This is why I hope there is relegation bought in, spurs won't survive up there ffs. I do see why they have gone for teams with the biggest fanbases of course.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
Spurs have seriously won the lottery. Serial trophy Dodgers get invited the the top table. I guess all those NFL games were worth it in the end....
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This is why I hope there is relegation bought in, spurs won't survive up there ffs. I do see why they have gone for teams with the biggest fanbases of course.
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It’s where it falls down for me, in purely idealistic terms. Three of the English teams have never won the European Cup/CL so have no pedigree at all. But at least Arsenal and City can point to sustained periods of domestic dominance.
I’m not sure, but isn’t it the case that the 15 founder teams (horrible yank term 🤢) won’t be able to be relegated. It’s the whole idea of it, isn’t it???
posted on 19/4/21
What the hell is wrong with the Champions League?!
It's the best competition in sport, yes you may end up playing a minnow in the group stages but it isn't just about the big teams. That minnow earnt the right to play against the Liverpools and Real Madrids of this world.
Also I'd rather eat a bowl of my own sick than play Atletico every year.
All in all a horrible horrible idea.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
What the hell is wrong with the Champions League?!
It's the best competition in sport, yes you may end up playing a minnow in the group stages but it isn't just about the big teams. That minnow earnt the right to play against the Liverpools and Real Madrids of this world.
Also I'd rather eat a bowl of my own sick than play Atletico every year.
All in all a horrible horrible idea.
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Well that's fine because you won't play atletico every year.
The CL is all great and good, but most teams get 4 home games a year out of it.
The new system will be 9 minimum.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
Spurs have seriously won the lottery. Serial trophy Dodgers get invited the the top table. I guess all those NFL games were worth it in the end....
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This is why I hope there is relegation bought in, spurs won't survive up there ffs. I do see why they have gone for teams with the biggest fanbases of course.
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It’s where it falls down for me, in purely idealistic terms. Three of the English teams have never won the European Cup/CL so have no pedigree at all. But at least Arsenal and City can point to sustained periods of domestic dominance.
I’m not sure, but isn’t it the case that the 15 founder teams (horrible yank term 🤢) won’t be able to be relegated. It’s the whole idea of it, isn’t it???
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The is just the first vision/incarnation of it.
Look how the European cup has evolved, and new changes coming in again soon. Or the PL which has changed over the years too.
FIFA and UEFA will climb down if relegation/promotion is introduced and it's based on participation in their competitions.
posted on 19/4/21
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posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
What the hell is wrong with the Champions League?!
It's the best competition in sport, yes you may end up playing a minnow in the group stages but it isn't just about the big teams. That minnow earnt the right to play against the Liverpools and Real Madrids of this world.
Also I'd rather eat a bowl of my own sick than play Atletico every year.
All in all a horrible horrible idea.
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Well that's fine because you won't play atletico every year.
The CL is all great and good, but most teams get 4 home games a year out of it.
The new system will be 9 minimum.
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If they don't get more than 3/4 home games it's because they weren't good enough in the competition.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted 9 seconds ago
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posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
What the hell is wrong with the Champions League?!
It's the best competition in sport, yes you may end up playing a minnow in the group stages but it isn't just about the big teams. That minnow earnt the right to play against the Liverpools and Real Madrids of this world.
Also I'd rather eat a bowl of my own sick than play Atletico every year.
All in all a horrible horrible idea.
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Well that's fine because you won't play atletico every year.
The CL is all great and good, but most teams get 4 home games a year out of it.
The new system will be 9 minimum.
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If they don't get more than 3/4 home games it's because they weren't good enough in the competition.
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Or you had an unlucky draw, suspensions, Injuries etc.
You asked what was wrong, UEFA own 51% of the competition, coin loads of the top, and it doesn't give the teams enough games/exposure/TV rights.
posted on 19/4/21
Some great discussions had on here over the weekend. Disappointed I wasn't part of it.
Regarding this Super League...my understanding is that this is a break away from UEFA, not the domestic competitions. Apparently the 'big' clubs are not happy at all about the new distribution of the CL money because apparently there's a significant amount that's going to UEFA but they're not disclosing (or haven't disclosed as yet) what this amount is for. The european giants think they should get this money.
Just because you disagree with the breakaway league, don't cloud your judgement on just what UEFA have been doing these past years as well and what they are capable of.
Also has anyone read up on the proposed plans for the new european competition format. They literally just want to flood the game with more televised games so they can earn more TV money. They themselves literally do not care at all about fair competition.
Clubs & managers have been crying for years now about the fixture congestions and the toll it takes on everyone involved (not just players). Not once has any of these governing bodies taken their concerns on board.
That being said, I personally don't have a huge problem with a breakaway european competition. My problem is with the permanent placement of certain teams. That specific rule just utterly devalues the essence of sport in general. That's the disgusting part for me.
posted on 19/4/21
Yeah, you get the feeling that the clubs have been threatening this to UEFA for quite some time. UEFA seem to think they can do whatever they want to further their own ends. Now the clubs are calling their bluff.
That’s one possible angle....
posted on 19/4/21
It's really more of a stand off between UEFA and these clubs at the moment and it's all centered around money.
They want this Super League to be an upgrade on the current Champions League, so that the best play the best, but UEFA have come out and said that they won't be able to participate in any other domestic and European competitions if they do.
One of them has to back down somewhere and I believe it will end up being UEFA.
posted on 19/4/21
There's three founders yet to be announced, you imagine it will be the two German clubs and PSG (Who perhaps don't want to upset FIFA before their world cup)
That means this league will have the best representatives from the top 5 leagues in Europe, so to me it's no surprise there will be 5 "guest spots" which will probably go to the next highest performing team in each league, or will have some basis with regards to the CL/EL
either way it will still be possible for other clubs to reach the ESL, whilst they can offer a sustained product in terms of viewership from the base 15 teams.
Honestly some of the outrage is nothing other than hyperbolic bed wetting, embarrassing some of the filling in the blanks that was going on yesterday.
UEFA can't even ban teams from their competitions for a set of rules the club's signed up to ffs, they will have a hard time booting these clubs.
Bet we drop out of the league cup, but that's well overdue tbh
posted on 19/4/21
These clubs have no attachment to UEFA anymore though do they? If the ESL is approved?
With it being a 20 team league, I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up changing dates to a weekend (essentially meaning more viewers across the world) because it would only be a full season anyway. Essentially making the rest of the European leagues obsolete.
I don't even think players representing nations would be that bothered either because they don't earn that much money playing for their countries. Why would a play be bothered earning x amount for their nations when they will earn 5x in wages playing in the super league.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
These clubs have no attachment to UEFA anymore though do they? If the ESL is approved?
With it being a 20 team league, I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up changing dates to a weekend (essentially meaning more viewers across the world) because it would only be a full season anyway. Essentially making the rest of the European leagues obsolete.
I don't even think players representing nations would be that bothered either because they don't earn that much money playing for their countries. Why would a play be bothered earning x amount for their nations when they will earn 5x in wages playing in the super league.
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They can't move dates to the weekend, it's been done in a manner to respect their domestic schedules.
That's league and cup competitions, it's taking the CL/EL matchdays is all.
Moving it to the weekends would be commercial suicide
posted on 19/4/21
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posted on 19/4/21
Also it's not a 20 team league, it's 2x10 team leagues with a playoff.
Seriously before you get riled up about it, you should try finding our what it's about!!
posted on 19/4/21
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posted 26 minutes ago
Honestly there is some bed wetting going on over this tbh.
Of course we will still care about winning our domestic league each year, this is just a CL replacement, with minimum of 18 matches a season.
Will it have the same excitement? Who knows, I certainly hope so, but it's no less setting up a closed shop for the rich clubs than the PL/CL were, or the TV rights allocations of most European leagues are.
UEFA and FIFA are about as corrupt as they come, and you can see it now as the scramble to protect their income from these horrible horrible clubs that want to exploit their own franchises.
Hopefully the idea will evolve to see the bottom two from each league booted yearly, with the top 7th placed teams having a playoff.
Then let in the CL quarter finalists, and EL winners.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you look at this prem season, the only drama left is the race for European slots.
You the add the money the six sides get from this ESL and what does it do to the prem and the clubs who aren't in it?
The whole thing is a disgrace.
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Nothing will change, teams don't ignore the FA cup because the PL is worth more.
And that's aside from the fact that dropping from 1st to 10th in the PL would cost your club £10m in reward revenue alone, that's before the televisation fees.
It's change, people just don't like change, people still bemoan the loss of the old European cup ffs
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Of course things will change. You are only playing for 1st position and avoiding relegation now. Where is the carrot for teams like Leicester pushing for CL?
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Have you read about it at all?!
It doesn't seem like it
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These clubs have no attachment to UEFA anymore though do they? If the ESL is approved?
With it being a 20 team league, I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up changing dates to a weekend (essentially meaning more viewers across the world) because it would only be a full season anyway. Essentially making the rest of the European leagues obsolete.
I don't even think players representing nations would be that bothered either because they don't earn that much money playing for their countries. Why would a play be bothered earning x amount for their nations when they will earn 5x in wages playing in the super league.
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Exactly. No one was bothered about playing for Man City before 2008. Money talks, that's why the ESL will work if it goes ahead. UEFA are worried because their biggest assets are all leaving, or most of them anyway.
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Also it's not a 20 team league, it's 2x10 team leagues with a playoff.
Seriously before you get riled up about it, you should try finding our what it's about!!
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I'm not getting riled up about it and I know what it is.
You'd play League A fixtures on one weekend and then League B on the following weekend, essentially making it a 38 matchday season. Why do you think the tournament starts in August and finishes in May? They won't just play them all at once.
I'm not saying they would move it to the weekends, but threaten and punish them all they want, it just gives them more reason to move. It's all well and good saying deduct them points, relegate them, strip their titles etc, it doesn't matter because it's not about heritage or league positions because they are going into their own league anyway.
They could quite easily play fixtures on a weekend for more commercial revenue. It ruins the domestic leagues as we know it because everybody will watch the ESL, that's what I'm saying. I know they aren't planning to do it, but they could change that if they really wanted to.
I doubt they will change it to weekends, my point is they very much could.
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Honestly there is some bed wetting going on over this tbh.
Of course we will still care about winning our domestic league each year, this is just a CL replacement, with minimum of 18 matches a season.
Will it have the same excitement? Who knows, I certainly hope so, but it's no less setting up a closed shop for the rich clubs than the PL/CL were, or the TV rights allocations of most European leagues are.
UEFA and FIFA are about as corrupt as they come, and you can see it now as the scramble to protect their income from these horrible horrible clubs that want to exploit their own franchises.
Hopefully the idea will evolve to see the bottom two from each league booted yearly, with the top 7th placed teams having a playoff.
Then let in the CL quarter finalists, and EL winners.
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If you look at this prem season, the only drama left is the race for European slots.
You the add the money the six sides get from this ESL and what does it do to the prem and the clubs who aren't in it?
The whole thing is a disgrace.
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Nothing will change, teams don't ignore the FA cup because the PL is worth more.
And that's aside from the fact that dropping from 1st to 10th in the PL would cost your club £10m in reward revenue alone, that's before the televisation fees.
It's change, people just don't like change, people still bemoan the loss of the old European cup ffs
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Of course things will change. You are only playing for 1st position and avoiding relegation now. Where is the carrot for teams like Leicester pushing for CL?
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Have you read about it at all?!
It doesn't seem like it
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Well it does. there are 15 teams that are guaranteed entry to it every season no matter what. Then 5 teams, one from each of the top divisions that get into it based on league position. So essentially it is a closed shop that will always means those six teams from the Prem will be in the ESL and have a distorted income compared to other Prem teams.
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They always have had distorted income. Liverpool earn £50m more a year from the PL than Everton, the top 4 are pretty much the same every year and coin it in from Europe, that inequality already exists
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