Also teams joining The Super League will receive a $3.5bn payment upfront for their inaugural season to assist with participating in the league as well as it being a covid relief fund.
What has UEFA done to help teams around europe during this pandemic. Not the big ones but the smaller ones.
We all know there's no moral integrity in football. It has been this way for a while but it's kinda nice to see these governing bodies scrambling like this.
You all still watch the PL which was designed to take money away from the rest of the football league structure and enrich the top clubs, that's why it's been so successful and the FA have had to fight so hard to get solidarity payments, which are relatively new.
The PL has been a closed shop at the top, with only massive investment making inroads against the top clubs
comment by Tranmere87 (U11882)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
Also it's not a 20 team league, it's 2x10 team leagues with a playoff.
Seriously before you get riled up about it, you should try finding our what it's about!!
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I will not be a part of a competition that has eliminated relegation and the risk that comes with it. The most obvious money-grabbing scheme in the history of the sport. For some reason you think they will magically introduce relegation at some point in the future. Why on Earth do you possibly think that, why are you so naive that you blindly trust these people? Of course they won't bring in relegation, the founders will be in there forever because that is what generates the most money. Absolutely mental how some are supporting the creation of footballing monopolies before our eyes? How is this in the spirit of sporting fairness.
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What exactly do you mean by ‘I will not be a part of’? Who is this anyway?
I’m loving all this moral crusading. People declaring they’ll abandon all ties with Liverpool. 99% of these people are nothing but armchair fans who only watch games on illegal streams and don’t put a penny into the club. I understand if season ticket holders or regular attendees want a say in it, they’ve invested their own money into the club.
But most of us put nothing into the club, and those creating articles declaring they’re abandoning the club out of moral outrage are the biggest joke out the lot.
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tranmere87 (U11882)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
Also it's not a 20 team league, it's 2x10 team leagues with a playoff.
Seriously before you get riled up about it, you should try finding our what it's about!!
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I will not be a part of a competition that has eliminated relegation and the risk that comes with it. The most obvious money-grabbing scheme in the history of the sport. For some reason you think they will magically introduce relegation at some point in the future. Why on Earth do you possibly think that, why are you so naive that you blindly trust these people? Of course they won't bring in relegation, the founders will be in there forever because that is what generates the most money. Absolutely mental how some are supporting the creation of footballing monopolies before our eyes? How is this in the spirit of sporting fairness.
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What exactly do you mean by ‘I will not be a part of’? Who is this anyway?
I’m loving all this moral crusading. People declaring they’ll abandon all ties with Liverpool. 99% of these people are nothing but armchair fans who only watch games on illegal streams and don’t put a penny into the club. I understand if season ticket holders or regular attendees want a say in it, they’ve invested their own money into the club.
But most of us put nothing into the club, and those creating articles declaring they’re abandoning the club out of moral outrage are the biggest joke out the lot.
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Let them go and support Everton. They will won't win anything even when the big six leave.
I see that Henry is delaying the announcement of him as a vice chairman of this organisation. Such a fecking coward
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Not that these clubs give a monkeys about fans anymore anyway, its all about commercial revenue now, not those who go to games. The ESL is centered around one thing and one thing only, money. Any chance they get to make more money from this, they will do it.
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comment by Tranmere87 (U11882)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 7 seconds ago
You all still watch the PL which was designed to take money away from the rest of the football league structure and enrich the top clubs, that's why it's been so successful and the FA have had to fight so hard to get solidarity payments, which are relatively new.
The PL has been a closed shop at the top, with only massive investment making inroads against the top clubs
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What the fack are you even talking about closed shop. If you finish in the bottom 3, you are relegated end of. The big 6 having world class players makes this risk for them negligible, but if they were to ever finish in the bottom 3 they are done. It happened to Leeds who were no doubt a top 6 club in the 90s. Can you not literally make things up to justify your new "competition"?
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I said at the top you dolt.. try reading
Without investment Blackburn, city and Chelsea would never have won the league, money was pumped in (to a lesser extent) to Leicester too.
The PL was designed to enrich the top clubs, hence the heavy weighting of TV fees towards the top clubs who make £50m a year more than the lesser clubs before we even consider the CL.
The idea that someone like Bournemouth could win using just the PL revenue is a deluded fantasy
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Bournemouth would pump their own money in as well as the PL money, like what Leicester did when they won the league back in 2016.
Bit daft to say the PL is a closed shop at the top when Leicester and West Ham are currently 3rd and 4th...
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 minutes ago
You all still watch the PL which was designed to take money away from the rest of the football league structure and enrich the top clubs, that's why it's been so successful and the FA have had to fight so hard to get solidarity payments, which are relatively new.
The PL has been a closed shop at the top, with only massive investment making inroads against the top clubs
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I agree somewhat with this. Football has been a closed shop at the top for years. Sure there's the anomaly and we all clutch onto those triumphs of the so called smaller teams but these wins just paper over the cracks that's been there all along. People have just been ignoring it. Look at the CL winners since Porto.
Look at the way the German FA and mostly Bayern have talked about Leipzig ever since they started their journey.
The 'new' football fan...how often do they glorify the players more than the actual club they support. How people move with Ronaldo and whichever team he plays for. Same with Neymar. It will be the same with Mbappe & Haaland. We'll notice the same with Egypt and Salah. The game has been changing for a while, people just choose to ignore it. The 'new' football fan just wants to see global superstars. Sad but true.
John Henry in particular can see it and is willing to take the risk and capitalise on it far sooner than everyone else. From a business perspective the man knows what he is doing however preserving the essence of what we know football to be, he couldn't be more disconnected. They've displayed this times before.
Is the Super League the answer? Obviously not but at least they'll willing to change things and if it works, great. If it doesn't, then there's no turning back for them...although in business emotion should always be removed and if UEFA know the money train follows these clubs, they'll allow them back in again.
TV money has overtaken gate receipts for decades now. That's all these clubs and various governing bodies care about.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 19 minutes ago
I see that Henry is delaying the announcement of him as a vice chairman of this organisation. Such a fecking coward
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Calm down dear
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 minutes ago
You all still watch the PL which was designed to take money away from the rest of the football league structure and enrich the top clubs, that's why it's been so successful and the FA have had to fight so hard to get solidarity payments, which are relatively new.
The PL has been a closed shop at the top, with only massive investment making inroads against the top clubs
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I agree somewhat with this. Football has been a closed shop at the top for years. Sure there's the anomaly and we all clutch onto those triumphs of the so called smaller teams but these wins just paper over the cracks that's been there all along. People have just been ignoring it. Look at the CL winners since Porto.
Look at the way the German FA and mostly Bayern have talked about Leipzig ever since they started their journey.
The 'new' football fan...how often do they glorify the players more than the actual club they support. How people move with Ronaldo and whichever team he plays for. Same with Neymar. It will be the same with Mbappe & Haaland. We'll notice the same with Egypt and Salah. The game has been changing for a while, people just choose to ignore it. The 'new' football fan just wants to see global superstars. Sad but true.
John Henry in particular can see it and is willing to take the risk and capitalise on it far sooner than everyone else. From a business perspective the man knows what he is doing however preserving the essence of what we know football to be, he couldn't be more disconnected. They've displayed this times before.
Is the Super League the answer? Obviously not but at least they'll willing to change things and if it works, great. If it doesn't, then there's no turning back for them...although in business emotion should always be removed and if UEFA know the money train follows these clubs, they'll allow them back in again.
TV money has overtaken gate receipts for decades now. That's all these clubs and various governing bodies care about.
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If you want your club run like a business there is probably nobody better than Henry to run it. But you're spot on in that he is entirely disconnected to what football means to fans in this country.
Perhaps people just don't care about fans in this country.
Frankly if they want to create this sort of franchises arrangement why don't they just create separate clubs?
comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 minutes ago
You all still watch the PL which was designed to take money away from the rest of the football league structure and enrich the top clubs, that's why it's been so successful and the FA have had to fight so hard to get solidarity payments, which are relatively new.
The PL has been a closed shop at the top, with only massive investment making inroads against the top clubs
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I agree somewhat with this. Football has been a closed shop at the top for years. Sure there's the anomaly and we all clutch onto those triumphs of the so called smaller teams but these wins just paper over the cracks that's been there all along. People have just been ignoring it. Look at the CL winners since Porto.
Look at the way the German FA and mostly Bayern have talked about Leipzig ever since they started their journey.
The 'new' football fan...how often do they glorify the players more than the actual club they support. How people move with Ronaldo and whichever team he plays for. Same with Neymar. It will be the same with Mbappe & Haaland. We'll notice the same with Egypt and Salah. The game has been changing for a while, people just choose to ignore it. The 'new' football fan just wants to see global superstars. Sad but true.
John Henry in particular can see it and is willing to take the risk and capitalise on it far sooner than everyone else. From a business perspective the man knows what he is doing however preserving the essence of what we know football to be, he couldn't be more disconnected. They've displayed this times before.
Is the Super League the answer? Obviously not but at least they'll willing to change things and if it works, great. If it doesn't, then there's no turning back for them...although in business emotion should always be removed and if UEFA know the money train follows these clubs, they'll allow them back in again.
TV money has overtaken gate receipts for decades now. That's all these clubs and various governing bodies care about.
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If you want your club run like a business there is probably nobody better than Henry to run it. But you're spot on in that he is entirely disconnected to what football means to fans in this country.
Perhaps people just don't care about fans in this country.
Frankly if they want to create this sort of franchises arrangement why don't they just create separate clubs?
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Create separate clubs
The fate of domestic leagues comes down to those 5 qualifying spots and who they go to.
For instance, if Leicester win the Premier League next season, do they get a qualifying spot to potentially reach the ESL? If they do and they get in, they then earn x amounts of hundreds of millions for competing. But would that mean they are banned from UEFA and FA competitions for competing? If not, that's potentially how money could continue to filter down the pyramid.
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Yeah the permanent placement thing is the most disgusting thing about all of this to me.
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 19 minutes ago
I see that Henry is delaying the announcement of him as a vice chairman of this organisation. Such a fecking coward
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Calm down dear
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Perfectly calm Term, just piissed off with our owners.
We've let the one country in the world that doesn't give a deck about football get their hands on it
But the point is that other clubs have the chance to get to that level. Now, they don't. It is a closed shop. Seriously, are you just playing devils advocate for fun here? Nobody does like change, and a CL/ top European revamp would be fine. Giving 15 clubs a free pass every season is a disgrace.
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This I agree with. I’m all for breaking away from UEFA and breaking their stranglehold on the clubs, but I’m not keen on closing it off to all the other countries at all.
Though to be the devil’s advocate, I’m guessing that they may not have been able to secure the level of funding they have without this format. From a sponsorship and tv revenue POV, nobody’s interested in seeing Liverpool v Slavia Prague when you can guarantee Liverpool v Barcelona.
That’s the unfortunate reality.
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 11 minutes ago
Yeah the permanent placement thing is the most disgusting thing about all of this to me.
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American sports
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 19 minutes ago
I see that Henry is delaying the announcement of him as a vice chairman of this organisation. Such a fecking coward
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Calm down dear
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Perfectly calm Term, just piissed off with our owners.
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Just winding you up 😊 I’m just waiting for all the facts before deciding my opinion on it. Even if I don’t like it, I’m pretty sure I’ll still watch it when it starts, as I’m sure 99.9% of other fans will.....
The EPL is money making for a big clubs, no question, but it's also made the average clubs rich as well. Mid-table EPL teams can spends tens of millions on players, something most European leagues can't do. Villa just survived relegation and brought Watkins from Brentford for circa £30m. Which other league has teams that can do that? Also, which other league structure can sell a second tier player for that amount of money? And Championships clubs, we've seen purchases for £10-15m; I'm not sure there can be many league structures that have that kind of wealth.
So yeah, the EPL was about money and greed. But it was also within an existing structure that offered a way in if a club could improve themselves enough. Promotion and relegation is a vital part of (non-US) sport.
The number of games the Super League is proposing would mean (I'm guessing) sacrificing the domestic cups as well as the CL. Otherwise I just don't see how you fit a potential 25 games in (as opposed to 13 for CL).
It would really disappoint me to think I'll never see Liverpool lift another FA Cup or CL. But I think I'd probably get used to it.
If we left the league structure though I don't see myself being that passionate about the club anymore. I want to watch derby games and grudge matches that have no real reason but developed over years. I want to watch us have to dig out a result against a Burnley or a Fulham because City/Utd/Chelsea have just thrashed some other lot. I want the football I grew up loving.
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posted on 19/4/21
Also teams joining The Super League will receive a $3.5bn payment upfront for their inaugural season to assist with participating in the league as well as it being a covid relief fund.
What has UEFA done to help teams around europe during this pandemic. Not the big ones but the smaller ones.
We all know there's no moral integrity in football. It has been this way for a while but it's kinda nice to see these governing bodies scrambling like this.
posted on 19/4/21
You all still watch the PL which was designed to take money away from the rest of the football league structure and enrich the top clubs, that's why it's been so successful and the FA have had to fight so hard to get solidarity payments, which are relatively new.
The PL has been a closed shop at the top, with only massive investment making inroads against the top clubs
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Tranmere87 (U11882)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
Also it's not a 20 team league, it's 2x10 team leagues with a playoff.
Seriously before you get riled up about it, you should try finding our what it's about!!
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I will not be a part of a competition that has eliminated relegation and the risk that comes with it. The most obvious money-grabbing scheme in the history of the sport. For some reason you think they will magically introduce relegation at some point in the future. Why on Earth do you possibly think that, why are you so naive that you blindly trust these people? Of course they won't bring in relegation, the founders will be in there forever because that is what generates the most money. Absolutely mental how some are supporting the creation of footballing monopolies before our eyes? How is this in the spirit of sporting fairness.
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What exactly do you mean by ‘I will not be a part of’? Who is this anyway?
I’m loving all this moral crusading. People declaring they’ll abandon all ties with Liverpool. 99% of these people are nothing but armchair fans who only watch games on illegal streams and don’t put a penny into the club. I understand if season ticket holders or regular attendees want a say in it, they’ve invested their own money into the club.
But most of us put nothing into the club, and those creating articles declaring they’re abandoning the club out of moral outrage are the biggest joke out the lot.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tranmere87 (U11882)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 minute ago
Also it's not a 20 team league, it's 2x10 team leagues with a playoff.
Seriously before you get riled up about it, you should try finding our what it's about!!
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I will not be a part of a competition that has eliminated relegation and the risk that comes with it. The most obvious money-grabbing scheme in the history of the sport. For some reason you think they will magically introduce relegation at some point in the future. Why on Earth do you possibly think that, why are you so naive that you blindly trust these people? Of course they won't bring in relegation, the founders will be in there forever because that is what generates the most money. Absolutely mental how some are supporting the creation of footballing monopolies before our eyes? How is this in the spirit of sporting fairness.
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What exactly do you mean by ‘I will not be a part of’? Who is this anyway?
I’m loving all this moral crusading. People declaring they’ll abandon all ties with Liverpool. 99% of these people are nothing but armchair fans who only watch games on illegal streams and don’t put a penny into the club. I understand if season ticket holders or regular attendees want a say in it, they’ve invested their own money into the club.
But most of us put nothing into the club, and those creating articles declaring they’re abandoning the club out of moral outrage are the biggest joke out the lot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let them go and support Everton. They will won't win anything even when the big six leave.
posted on 19/4/21
I see that Henry is delaying the announcement of him as a vice chairman of this organisation. Such a fecking coward
posted on 19/4/21
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posted on 19/4/21
Not that these clubs give a monkeys about fans anymore anyway, its all about commercial revenue now, not those who go to games. The ESL is centered around one thing and one thing only, money. Any chance they get to make more money from this, they will do it.
posted on 19/4/21
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posted on 19/4/21
comment by Tranmere87 (U11882)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 7 seconds ago
You all still watch the PL which was designed to take money away from the rest of the football league structure and enrich the top clubs, that's why it's been so successful and the FA have had to fight so hard to get solidarity payments, which are relatively new.
The PL has been a closed shop at the top, with only massive investment making inroads against the top clubs
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What the fack are you even talking about closed shop. If you finish in the bottom 3, you are relegated end of. The big 6 having world class players makes this risk for them negligible, but if they were to ever finish in the bottom 3 they are done. It happened to Leeds who were no doubt a top 6 club in the 90s. Can you not literally make things up to justify your new "competition"?
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I said at the top you dolt.. try reading
Without investment Blackburn, city and Chelsea would never have won the league, money was pumped in (to a lesser extent) to Leicester too.
The PL was designed to enrich the top clubs, hence the heavy weighting of TV fees towards the top clubs who make £50m a year more than the lesser clubs before we even consider the CL.
The idea that someone like Bournemouth could win using just the PL revenue is a deluded fantasy
posted on 19/4/21
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posted on 19/4/21
Bournemouth would pump their own money in as well as the PL money, like what Leicester did when they won the league back in 2016.
posted on 19/4/21
Bit daft to say the PL is a closed shop at the top when Leicester and West Ham are currently 3rd and 4th...
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 minutes ago
You all still watch the PL which was designed to take money away from the rest of the football league structure and enrich the top clubs, that's why it's been so successful and the FA have had to fight so hard to get solidarity payments, which are relatively new.
The PL has been a closed shop at the top, with only massive investment making inroads against the top clubs
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I agree somewhat with this. Football has been a closed shop at the top for years. Sure there's the anomaly and we all clutch onto those triumphs of the so called smaller teams but these wins just paper over the cracks that's been there all along. People have just been ignoring it. Look at the CL winners since Porto.
Look at the way the German FA and mostly Bayern have talked about Leipzig ever since they started their journey.
The 'new' football fan...how often do they glorify the players more than the actual club they support. How people move with Ronaldo and whichever team he plays for. Same with Neymar. It will be the same with Mbappe & Haaland. We'll notice the same with Egypt and Salah. The game has been changing for a while, people just choose to ignore it. The 'new' football fan just wants to see global superstars. Sad but true.
John Henry in particular can see it and is willing to take the risk and capitalise on it far sooner than everyone else. From a business perspective the man knows what he is doing however preserving the essence of what we know football to be, he couldn't be more disconnected. They've displayed this times before.
Is the Super League the answer? Obviously not but at least they'll willing to change things and if it works, great. If it doesn't, then there's no turning back for them...although in business emotion should always be removed and if UEFA know the money train follows these clubs, they'll allow them back in again.
TV money has overtaken gate receipts for decades now. That's all these clubs and various governing bodies care about.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 19 minutes ago
I see that Henry is delaying the announcement of him as a vice chairman of this organisation. Such a fecking coward
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Calm down dear
posted on 19/4/21
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 minutes ago
You all still watch the PL which was designed to take money away from the rest of the football league structure and enrich the top clubs, that's why it's been so successful and the FA have had to fight so hard to get solidarity payments, which are relatively new.
The PL has been a closed shop at the top, with only massive investment making inroads against the top clubs
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I agree somewhat with this. Football has been a closed shop at the top for years. Sure there's the anomaly and we all clutch onto those triumphs of the so called smaller teams but these wins just paper over the cracks that's been there all along. People have just been ignoring it. Look at the CL winners since Porto.
Look at the way the German FA and mostly Bayern have talked about Leipzig ever since they started their journey.
The 'new' football fan...how often do they glorify the players more than the actual club they support. How people move with Ronaldo and whichever team he plays for. Same with Neymar. It will be the same with Mbappe & Haaland. We'll notice the same with Egypt and Salah. The game has been changing for a while, people just choose to ignore it. The 'new' football fan just wants to see global superstars. Sad but true.
John Henry in particular can see it and is willing to take the risk and capitalise on it far sooner than everyone else. From a business perspective the man knows what he is doing however preserving the essence of what we know football to be, he couldn't be more disconnected. They've displayed this times before.
Is the Super League the answer? Obviously not but at least they'll willing to change things and if it works, great. If it doesn't, then there's no turning back for them...although in business emotion should always be removed and if UEFA know the money train follows these clubs, they'll allow them back in again.
TV money has overtaken gate receipts for decades now. That's all these clubs and various governing bodies care about.
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If you want your club run like a business there is probably nobody better than Henry to run it. But you're spot on in that he is entirely disconnected to what football means to fans in this country.
Perhaps people just don't care about fans in this country.
Frankly if they want to create this sort of franchises arrangement why don't they just create separate clubs?
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 minutes ago
You all still watch the PL which was designed to take money away from the rest of the football league structure and enrich the top clubs, that's why it's been so successful and the FA have had to fight so hard to get solidarity payments, which are relatively new.
The PL has been a closed shop at the top, with only massive investment making inroads against the top clubs
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I agree somewhat with this. Football has been a closed shop at the top for years. Sure there's the anomaly and we all clutch onto those triumphs of the so called smaller teams but these wins just paper over the cracks that's been there all along. People have just been ignoring it. Look at the CL winners since Porto.
Look at the way the German FA and mostly Bayern have talked about Leipzig ever since they started their journey.
The 'new' football fan...how often do they glorify the players more than the actual club they support. How people move with Ronaldo and whichever team he plays for. Same with Neymar. It will be the same with Mbappe & Haaland. We'll notice the same with Egypt and Salah. The game has been changing for a while, people just choose to ignore it. The 'new' football fan just wants to see global superstars. Sad but true.
John Henry in particular can see it and is willing to take the risk and capitalise on it far sooner than everyone else. From a business perspective the man knows what he is doing however preserving the essence of what we know football to be, he couldn't be more disconnected. They've displayed this times before.
Is the Super League the answer? Obviously not but at least they'll willing to change things and if it works, great. If it doesn't, then there's no turning back for them...although in business emotion should always be removed and if UEFA know the money train follows these clubs, they'll allow them back in again.
TV money has overtaken gate receipts for decades now. That's all these clubs and various governing bodies care about.
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If you want your club run like a business there is probably nobody better than Henry to run it. But you're spot on in that he is entirely disconnected to what football means to fans in this country.
Perhaps people just don't care about fans in this country.
Frankly if they want to create this sort of franchises arrangement why don't they just create separate clubs?
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Create separate clubs
posted on 19/4/21
The fate of domestic leagues comes down to those 5 qualifying spots and who they go to.
For instance, if Leicester win the Premier League next season, do they get a qualifying spot to potentially reach the ESL? If they do and they get in, they then earn x amounts of hundreds of millions for competing. But would that mean they are banned from UEFA and FA competitions for competing? If not, that's potentially how money could continue to filter down the pyramid.
posted on 19/4/21
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posted on 19/4/21
Yeah the permanent placement thing is the most disgusting thing about all of this to me.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 19 minutes ago
I see that Henry is delaying the announcement of him as a vice chairman of this organisation. Such a fecking coward
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Calm down dear
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Perfectly calm Term, just piissed off with our owners.
posted on 19/4/21
We've let the one country in the world that doesn't give a deck about football get their hands on it
posted on 19/4/21
But the point is that other clubs have the chance to get to that level. Now, they don't. It is a closed shop. Seriously, are you just playing devils advocate for fun here? Nobody does like change, and a CL/ top European revamp would be fine. Giving 15 clubs a free pass every season is a disgrace.
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This I agree with. I’m all for breaking away from UEFA and breaking their stranglehold on the clubs, but I’m not keen on closing it off to all the other countries at all.
Though to be the devil’s advocate, I’m guessing that they may not have been able to secure the level of funding they have without this format. From a sponsorship and tv revenue POV, nobody’s interested in seeing Liverpool v Slavia Prague when you can guarantee Liverpool v Barcelona.
That’s the unfortunate reality.
posted on 19/4/21
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 11 minutes ago
Yeah the permanent placement thing is the most disgusting thing about all of this to me.
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American sports
posted on 19/4/21
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 19 minutes ago
I see that Henry is delaying the announcement of him as a vice chairman of this organisation. Such a fecking coward
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Calm down dear
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Perfectly calm Term, just piissed off with our owners.
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Just winding you up 😊 I’m just waiting for all the facts before deciding my opinion on it. Even if I don’t like it, I’m pretty sure I’ll still watch it when it starts, as I’m sure 99.9% of other fans will.....
posted on 19/4/21
The EPL is money making for a big clubs, no question, but it's also made the average clubs rich as well. Mid-table EPL teams can spends tens of millions on players, something most European leagues can't do. Villa just survived relegation and brought Watkins from Brentford for circa £30m. Which other league has teams that can do that? Also, which other league structure can sell a second tier player for that amount of money? And Championships clubs, we've seen purchases for £10-15m; I'm not sure there can be many league structures that have that kind of wealth.
So yeah, the EPL was about money and greed. But it was also within an existing structure that offered a way in if a club could improve themselves enough. Promotion and relegation is a vital part of (non-US) sport.
The number of games the Super League is proposing would mean (I'm guessing) sacrificing the domestic cups as well as the CL. Otherwise I just don't see how you fit a potential 25 games in (as opposed to 13 for CL).
It would really disappoint me to think I'll never see Liverpool lift another FA Cup or CL. But I think I'd probably get used to it.
If we left the league structure though I don't see myself being that passionate about the club anymore. I want to watch derby games and grudge matches that have no real reason but developed over years. I want to watch us have to dig out a result against a Burnley or a Fulham because City/Utd/Chelsea have just thrashed some other lot. I want the football I grew up loving.
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