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posted on 19/9/24

Can we please not pretend that the club has this elaborate list of only elite level footballers that can improve our team...we are opportunistic. We thought we could sign him for less than his release clause and failed.

Profile or no profile the only reason we pursued him specifically & so aggressively was because of the opportunity to get him at lesser than his market rate

posted on 19/9/24

his release clause was 51m we moved cause he started saying he'd move after years of rejecting multiple clubs out of loyalty to RS. He went back on his word when RS promised him a new contract after stalling with the you have to pay your own 60m buyout clause in person.

now the contracts not been done yet rumours are back.

posted on 19/9/24

Opta predicts that Liverpool will need 16 points to advance to the next round of the Champions League:
“By running 50,000 simulations of the group stage, the supercomputer is able to give a probability for the number of points needed to finish in the top eight, and to finish in the top 24.”
“Here’s what we found:”
“In 98% of simulations, 16 points was enough to finish in the top eight, meaning five wins and a draw or four wins and four draws are likely to guarantee progress to the first knockout round.”

comment by Szoboss (U6997)

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 28 minutes ago
Can we please not pretend that the club has this elaborate list of only elite level footballers that can improve our team...we are opportunistic. We thought we could sign him for less than his release clause and failed.

Profile or no profile the only reason we pursued him specifically & so aggressively was because of the opportunity to get him at lesser than his market rate
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I don't agree with any of that ME. Of course they do, every club will do. Klopp even said that he realised his heart wasn't 100% in the job when he met to discuss targets for the 2024 summer window.

Doesn't mean we wont be opportunistic where we can be but we'll have targets, both immediate and longer term.

posted on 19/9/24

Barella had a good game vs City.

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Szoboss (U6997)
posted 56 minutes ago
If he’s changed his mind then I hope we do go back. He was identified as the right player for us, that’s good enough for me.

I assume we have a load of posters on this site who have never regretted a decision they’ve taken. Or regretted not doing something. I’m envious - it’s happened to me plenty of times!

That said, it’s more than likely bollox designed to get RS to offer a new deal.
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Agreed

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Not sure I want Zubimendi tbh. He has a season here then starts crying again because he can’t hike in the mountains. Would rather we moved on, need to be signing players who want to be at the club.
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Jeez! Then why you throw your toys out the pram all summer?

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Not sure I want Zubimendi tbh. He has a season here then starts crying again because he can’t hike in the mountains. Would rather we moved on, need to be signing players who want to be at the club.
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Jeez! Then why you throw your toys out the pram all summer?
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Because, and I said it 50 times, Zubimendi isn't the only DM in the world that would improve us.

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 12 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
Mamba, can you clear this up? Do you think that Slot is the decision maker when it comes to transfers?
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We have a committee or team of which Slot is a part of. Robbing comes out with all sorts of excrement just to be contrary to whatever I'm saying and he ends up looking dumb every time.

From the horse's own mouth

""That argument I don't understand. If you don't strengthen you become weaker? We stay the same. I truly believe you can help on the training ground and improve. It has helped players to improve here. If other clubs strengthen they become better but it's not always true that new players make you stronger. Every player in the team needs perspective on playing time. If you keep bringing in players the energy goes down. Me and Richard are trying to strengthen, if we think we have found someone, we try to bring him. Unfortunately, the one we found (Zubimendi) said no."

This sounds like something I would say if we're being honest. Here's the link

https://www.goal.com/en-ke/lists/liverpool-boss-arne-slot-addresses-failed-martin-zubimendi-pursuit-rejects-anfield-move/blt543ccf3f89f917e5#cscfe58eff001da9fa

Yet another mystery solved by pesky Mamba.
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One disagreement I have, cordially, is that you go backwards if you stay the same. In football you have to run to stay still, it’s why even the best teams generally change players year on year.
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We are one of those teams because of our considered apotoach to transfers. Even the managerial appointment is calculated so hopefully we can sign the right players and have a great Arne Slot era.

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 12 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
Mamba, can you clear this up? Do you think that Slot is the decision maker when it comes to transfers?
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We have a committee or team of which Slot is a part of. Robbing comes out with all sorts of excrement just to be contrary to whatever I'm saying and he ends up looking dumb every time.

From the horse's own mouth

""That argument I don't understand. If you don't strengthen you become weaker? We stay the same. I truly believe you can help on the training ground and improve. It has helped players to improve here. If other clubs strengthen they become better but it's not always true that new players make you stronger. Every player in the team needs perspective on playing time. If you keep bringing in players the energy goes down. Me and Richard are trying to strengthen, if we think we have found someone, we try to bring him. Unfortunately, the one we found (Zubimendi) said no."

This sounds like something I would say if we're being honest. Here's the link

https://www.goal.com/en-ke/lists/liverpool-boss-arne-slot-addresses-failed-martin-zubimendi-pursuit-rejects-anfield-move/blt543ccf3f89f917e5#cscfe58eff001da9fa

Yet another mystery solved by pesky Mamba.
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One disagreement I have, cordially, is that you go backwards if you stay the same. In football you have to run to stay still, it’s why even the best teams generally change players year on year.
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We are one of those teams because of our considered apotoach to transfers. Even the managerial appointment is calculated so hopefully we can sign the right players and have a great Arne Slot era.
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I think we're too cautious in the market. But that's just my opinion.

posted on 19/9/24

Morning, how did Clark and Bajcetic do? Did Bajcetic play as the DM?

posted on 19/9/24

My father-in-law (Millwall fan) is buzzing with Scanlon, he looks excellent apparently.

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Not sure I want Zubimendi tbh. He has a season here then starts crying again because he can’t hike in the mountains. Would rather we moved on, need to be signing players who want to be at the club.
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Jeez! Then why you throw your toys out the pram all summer?
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Because, and I said it 50 times, Zubimendi isn't the only DM in the world that would improve us.
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How do you establish that? Doesn't automatically mean we will improve when we sign someone. It's just a general statement you're making because the club must still identify the player that wants to come and that fits in with other requirements and has the least chance of flopping or pulling a Keita on us.

Slot has explained this well.
But he also has to want to play for us, and fit in with many other requirements so that's a dumb thing to say IMO.

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Michael Edwards FC 2.0 loading…{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Can we please not pretend that the club has this elaborate list of only elite level footballers that can improve our team...we are opportunistic. We thought we could sign him for less than his release clause and failed.

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We are not a doped up club so nothing wrong with being opportunistic.

In any case, how is Zubi opportunistic? It is well known he won't leave his home club and we still tried out best because he's the one we wanted, just like we did with Caicedo, even though he had one leg at Chelsea. We wanted him and went for it.

We also would have got him had he not made the personal decision not to leave his club so looks like we were gonna succeed at paying less then the clause. This is something to be praised IMO.

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)

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I think we're too cautious in the market. But that's just my opinion.
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Honestly, I think we get it spot-on for a club that isn't Real Madrid. I can count the number of flops we've had over the last 9 years on one hand and in many cases, they've still contributed

posted on 19/9/24

comment by The Duality of Van (Dijk) (U21747)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)

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I think we're too cautious in the market. But that's just my opinion.
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Honestly, I think we get it spot-on for a club that isn't Real Madrid. I can count the number of flops we've had over the last 9 years on one hand and in many cases, they've still contributed
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Yeah, or been sold for massive profit.

posted on 19/9/24

comment by The Duality of Van (Dijk) (U21747)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)

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I think we're too cautious in the market. But that's just my opinion.
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Honestly, I think we get it spot-on for a club that isn't Real Madrid. I can count the number of flops we've had over the last 9 years on one hand and in many cases, they've still contributed
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We've also paid the price for not reinforcing properly a couple of times, especially when we ended up signing Ben Davies at CB...

It's ok, there's not really much of a debate here, but I'd have liked to see us sign a DM in the window. Grav has done superbly well but I feel when we play better sides we are going to struggle. Also one injury to Grav and we are fvcked in midfield.

We play too many games to be reliant on such a small number of players.

Varela, Ederson, Florentino, Hjulmand would have improved our squad drastically.

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)

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We've also paid the price for not reinforcing properly a couple of times, especially when we ended up signing Ben Davies at CB...

It's ok, there's not really much of a debate here, but I'd have liked to see us sign a DM in the window. Grav has done superbly well but I feel when we play better sides we are going to struggle. Also one injury to Grav and we are fvcked in midfield.

We play too many games to be reliant on such a small number of players.

Varela, Ederson, Florentino, Hjulmand would have improved our squad drastically.


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You know, I think this Szob, Grav and Mac midfield is going to develop into something astounding, I really do.

And to be honest you could say the same about an untimely injury to most other clubs - Rice is out and Arsenal are apparently in crisis, Rodri out and City lose a few. We've been stung in past season with freak occurrences with injuries in the same area of the pitch but it's hard to litigate against that unless you have two world-class players in every position.

Our squad is deeper than I can remember right now, Endo waiting in the wings for us if Grav needs break - we're in a good position barring a freak occurrence again

posted on 19/9/24

yes but theres no guarantee strengthening by panic buying and signing a lower choice player would have made up for anything. Its a risk and one that could effect future transfers with a knock on effect. As would overpaying out of desperation would effect future business. As would breaking salary structure.

ofc theres loads of players out there, doesnt mean we're willing to go for them and take the gamble. nor does it mean we agree with the clubs valuations and are willing to break our own. Then theres their side of things, not every players willing to jump at the chance to join us, Zubimendi?

Every transfer is a gamble and has risk, its up to the team to pick and choose which we take and how we go about it. Doing so calmly and in no rush is best imo even if it means making do temporarily.

And quite frankly theyve done an astounding job operating like that over the years, be idiots to stray from it just to make fans happy.

posted on 19/9/24

And with as much certainty as possible* its always gonna abe a gamble. I want them to be as convinced on any signing as they possibly can be. If theyre not im happy with a low key transfer window, such as the one just gone.

Same fans btw who would be the first to jump on them if they got it wrong settling for a lower choice optiton or a player they were less sure on but signed under fan pressure.

posted on 19/9/24

Or signed a player Slot doesnt really want just cause* so we sign Ugarte and Slot barely plays him. Seen that tbefore with Rafa.

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Inbefore = imbecile- Dom Szobo is overrated rubbish however Pranks is a true FF champion (U20589)
posted 2 minutes ago
And with as much certainty as possible* its always gonna abe a gamble. I want them to be as convinced on any signing as they possibly can be. If theyre not im happy with a low key transfer window, such as the one just gone.

Same fans btw who would be the first to jump on them if they got it wrong settling for a lower choice optiton or a player they were less sure on but signed under fan pressure.
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Of course. Not long ago we had FSG out because of flops like Keita.

posted on 19/9/24

Varela, Ederson, Florentino, Hjulmand would have improved our squad drastically
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Slot and Richard beg to differ seeing as we didn't go for them, even after Zubi turned us down. These players improving us is a matter of opinion and that's yours.

How do you know they want to come here? You said no to Zubi because we can only sign players who want to be here. What are their wage demands and do they fit our wage structure? Do we wanna pay 200k per week to another Keita or Thiago? What about the fee? And are they the right age?

Ultimately, saying there's many players that can improve us is just stoopid IMO. When we find the right player we will go for them.

posted on 19/9/24

You know, I think this Szob, Grav and Mac midfield is going to develop into something astounding, I really do.
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I think it can work if they cover for each other with hard work and lots of running. Would be nice if it did so we can be done with this stoopid "ball winner" phase.

posted on 19/9/24

comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted less than a minute ago
Varela, Ederson, Florentino, Hjulmand would have improved our squad drastically
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Slot and Richard beg to differ seeing as we didn't go for them, even after Zubi turned us down. These players improving us is a matter of opinion and that's yours.

How do you know they want to come here? You said no to Zubi because we can only sign players who want to be here. What are their wage demands and do they fit our wage structure? Do we wanna pay 200k per week to another Keita or Thiago? What about the fee? And are they the right age?

Ultimately, saying there's many players that can improve us is just stoopid IMO. When we find the right player we will go for them.
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I don't know whether those players would want to join, I do know that Zubi definitely didn't want to join though.

If none of them wanted to join, then fine, but we didn't go in for them did we. Let's not pretend most of our transfer business isn't leaked to the media too. We know what's happening for most deals.

And regarding the Rice comment. Arsenal are in trouble because they have lost Rice and Merino (and Odegaard), and they still have Partey.

If we lose Gravenberch or Mac, then it's Endo / Jones. Huge downgrade. We will play 50+ games this season, we need more options.

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