you hear the victims families forgive Roof to his face.

Going as far as inviting him to there bible study group, they said this through tears.

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Goes to show how mentally insane you need to be to follow religion

He's French

The forgiveness among those church folk reminds me of attacks on Protestants here,and I was amazed how many people targeted by the I r a forgave their attackers.......may be a reformed faith thing?

To forgave may save lives,stop retaliation and ease the pain of relatives,as hate messes you up,and man,I have hated the Provo's.

Footage today shows a white kid being beaten by a gang,who have been labelled muslim,in England this weekend,and the attackers filmed their brave act.

The OP says that media fail to report white on black racism.Well,I know that attacks on white people is often glossed over,and and not called racist,or sectarian,as it may be muslim on Christian,in this instance.
The cops and media are afraid to call anyone racist,other than far-right white nutters,but there are black and Asian racist thugs too.

Many know this truth,but fear to speak about it,for dread of being labelled racist.

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
Footage today shows a white kid being beaten by a gang,who have been labelled muslim,in England this weekend,and the attackers filmed their brave act.


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did he die? if not then hopefully he can identify the attackers and they get punished heavily.

however a white kid beaten up by a muslim gang is not really comparable to a white kid massacring a whole load of people with a gun in a church of all places…..


barking up the wrong tree on this one buddy

do you have a better example?

also, how do you know that the muslim gang beating up a white kid is racist? they might simply have been robbing him and he refused to give up his phone/wallet or whatever…. you have basically jumped to conclusions to suit your argument….

have that gang beaten up non white kids in the past? i suspect that they would have

I'd be quite happy to label all terrorists as insane. However, I don't think that's the case. I think the majority a perfectly aware of what they are doing.

It's up to the authorities to decide whether or not the Charleston murderer is of sound mind. What is certain is that when it was initially reported, it was reported as a hate crime. That was everyone's reaction to it.

Chronic

Plenty of black and Asian murders of white people,in the UK and USA,and I hear isis have been a bit naughty too.

Funny how a white kid being brutally assaulted is not racial,but always is the other way around?Aye,they filmed their robbery,chronic,coz they are proper gangsta.

Chronic

I have commented on the racist Roof murderer,condemned him,and despised his thug violence,in case you start with the black lives matter line,or infer I am edl etc etc.

I know you shouldn't judge people by their appearances, but if I drew up a list of people who should be given a gun for their birthday, Dylann Roof would be quite far down that list. He has 'psychotic killer' written all over his face.

comment by He's French, He's Flash... The Artist Formerly Known As Ryan Wilson (U9335)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
you hear the victims families forgive Roof to his face.

Going as far as inviting him to there bible study group, they said this through tears.

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Goes to show how mentally insane you need to be to follow religion
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So forgiveness is now a trait of insanity.... You are proof that you don't need to be religious to be mental.

I was not comparing and contrasting the attacks in the USA and UK,but rather highlighting what the OP said,in claiming some acts are reported differently,and white victim's are often under reported,and the racial element often played down.

For example,Pakistani grooming gangs got away with their evil,as those in power were afraid to be deemed racist,as the victim's were all white English girls.
In fact,the working class girls were told they were asking for it,and this is sick.
Strangely,Pakistani groomers did not groom muslim kids,as we are reminded by some that grooming is a male thing,and white guys do it too.

Kung Fu

There is a new intolerance today,of people such as you and ,who have a spiritual belief and faith.
People who would never be racist,sectarian,or homophobic,feel no problem in being vile and abusive to religious people,and they are as bigoted as anyone,when they mock and lecture.

Secular and humanist bigotry is all the rage,and is replacing religious bigotry,imo.

All these people who claim to forgive those who perpetrated evil crimes against them and their loved ones, what a load of codswallop, I don't believe it for a second and I bet deep down, neither do they

Mark

You may be right,but many Christian people actually do genuinely forgive,and as the victim's in this case were bible worshipping Methodist's,they could be telling it as they feel it.
A black academic was on last a new report last night,and referred to the forgiveness expressed by black American's,and said this was part of their Protestant faith.The woman also linked forgiveness to the history of slavery.

I did not forgive the I r a in the past,when they attacked my community and people I knew,but this made me a hardline loyalist,full of hate,and that is not healthy.

Forgiveness is hard,but it may be the only way to cope.

What is forgiveness?

comment by MARK (U1449)
posted 11 minutes ago
What is forgiveness?


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This is forgiveness...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/16/iran-parents-halt-killer-execution

This is proof that forgiveness of perps isn't "codswallop", as the actions of the women in the link above prove.

If she didn't really mean it, she wouldn't have saved her child's killer. She provided more than words, as did the father.

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 58 minutes ago
Kung Fu

There is a new intolerance today,of people such as you and ,who have a spiritual belief and faith.
People who would never be racist,sectarian,or homophobic,feel no problem in being vile and abusive to religious people,and they are as bigoted as anyone,when they mock and lecture.

Secular and humanist bigotry is all the rage,and is replacing religious bigotry,imo.
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I couldn't have put it better my self.

Wow, some people are right mugs, I'd have been busting a gut to kick that chair leg

comment by MARK (U1449)
posted 7 minutes ago
Wow, some people are right mugs, I'd have been busting a gut to kick that chair leg
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True

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 day, 16 hours ago
I was not comparing and contrasting the attacks in the USA and UK,but rather highlighting what the OP said,in claiming some acts are reported differently,and white victim's are often under reported,and the racial element often played down.

For example,Pakistani grooming gangs got away with their evil,as those in power were afraid to be deemed racist,as the victim's were all white English girls.
In fact,the working class girls were told they were asking for it,and this is sick.
Strangely,Pakistani groomers did not groom muslim kids,as we are reminded by some that grooming is a male thing,and white guys do it too.
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They did groom Muslim girls eg those Bengali lasses, it just wasn't as extensively reported. Maybe it didn't fit the narrative?

The girls were accessible and thus targets. That is proven to be the motivator, accessibility and not ethnicity

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 2 days ago
Kung Fu

There is a new intolerance today,of people such as you and ,who have a spiritual belief and faith.
People who would never be racist,sectarian,or homophobic,feel no problem in being vile and abusive to religious people,and they are as bigoted as anyone,when they mock and lecture.

Secular and humanist bigotry is all the rage,and is replacing religious bigotry,imo.
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Well observed.

And Mark, those people forgive because they know how much they've been forgiven.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+18%3A21-35&version=NLT

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comment by Stretty - Mata is the Juan (U3123)
posted 8 seconds ago
Argh, yes, lets turn a tragedy into a race issue, because thats absolutley necesary isnt it.
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IT IS A RACE ISSUE!

He targeted a Black Church..... It's terrorism as simple as that, terrorism of the black community.

It's happening a lot in America if you haven't heard.

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It's not terrorism
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What is your defenition? I insure against terrorist attacks and this fits our definition
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Small world, I'm a terrorism insurance broker
I read this site everyday, but never really post

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-33227119

Feel sorry for the victim here. He had brown skin and wasnt even Muslim however the BBC headline is shocking as this was a racist attack.

They say that in the very first sentence though, the headline is pretty obvious that it is racially motivated.

I think some people are looking too hard at times

'A man was attacked with a hammer and 12in machete in a racially-motivated revenge assault for the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby, a court has heard.'

First fúcking line Kash