comment by Mata's Left Foot - General Bastian (U11781)
posted 53 minutes ago
I'm still astonished they're piping up after the hiding West Ham gave them on Saturday. It was the first time in 50 years they lost at home with a result like that. Moyesesque stat or what? And Jlou thinks they're in the battle for 4th
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But still a better stat than LvG's United losing 4-0 to MK Dons.
I mean I know it was only League (Capital One) cup but FFS League 1 opposition caning United 4-0. Time to climb down from that high horse of yours.
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
As far as I can tell the layman's equivalent of RMs statement is:
1.- United agreed to open negotiations in the morning.
2.- Real Madrid agree to have these talks.
3.- United demand Navas be part of the deal and tell RM they are in contact with Navas' representatives.
4.- Real Madrid and Manchester United reached an agreement for the transfers of both players at 13.39 Spanish time.
5.- At 21:43 (8 hrs later), United send minorly amended contracts to RM. RM accept immediately.
6.- RM obtained signatures of both De Gea and Navas, and send to United at 23:32. (opinion, the DDG is done now all that remains is Navas's)
7.- United reach final agreement with Navas at 23:53
8.- Manchester United entered the details of the David de Gea deal, not those of Keylor Navas, at 00:00 Spanish time.
You can accuse me of being biased or anti-United all you want, but it looks, based on the statement and assuming it's right, that United had about half an hour to key DDGs transfer into the system after sitting on the contracts for most of the day.
How can you fook that up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about we didn't want to enter the DDG details until we had confirmation that Navas was definitely coming the other way? We could've ended up with Real having DDG and Navas, and the Navas one not going through today!! We had to make sure Navas was part of the deal and until RM enter those details there is no deal?
Mourinho shopping at LIDL
Manchester United notes Real Madrid’s statement on the attempt to sign David De Gea and sell Navas to Manchester United. The club feels compelled to provide some clarification with the following facts.
- Manchester United did not seek contact from Real Madrid for the sale of David. David is a key member of our squad and the club’s preference was not to sell.
- No offer was received for David until yesterday.
- At lunchtime yesterday, Real Madrid made its first offer to buy David. A deal was agreed between the clubs, which included Navas being transferred to Old Trafford. The deals were dependent on each other.
- In the last several hours of the process, with Navas at the Real Madrid training ground, Real Madrid were controlling the documentation processes of David, Navas and Real Madrid. Manchester United was in control only of the documentation of Manchester United.
- Manchester United sent transfer documents for both players to Real Madrid at 20:42 BST. David’s documentation was returned by Real Madrid to Manchester United without the signatory page at 22:32 BST.
- At 22:40 BST, minutes before the deadline, major changes to the documentation came through to Manchester United which immediately put the deals at risk.
- Only at 22:55 BST were the documents that are needed to cancel David’s contract received by Manchester United from Real Madrid.
- At this point Navas’ documentation was still not returned by Real Madrid.
- At 22:58 BST, the transfer agreement was sent back by Manchester United, uploaded onto TMS and accepted – all before the deadline.
- It is our understanding that the deals couldn’t happen because:
Real Madrid didn’t upload David’s documents onto TMS in time (Manchester United did)
Real Madrid didn’t upload David’s documents to the Spanish league in time, per reports it seems some 28 minutes after the deadline
- The fact that Manchester United filed the papers on time was acknowledged by the Football Association, who offered to support that claim in any discussions with FIFA. The club offered this assistance, as well as its own timestamped documents to Real Madrid but they have chosen not to go down this route.
Manchester United acts appropriately and efficiently in its transfer dealings. The club is delighted that its fan-favourite double Player of the Year, David de Gea, remains a Manchester United player.
Sign in if you want to comment
Real Madrid Statement
Page 8 of 8
6 | 7 | 8
posted on 1/9/15
comment by Mata's Left Foot - General Bastian (U11781)
posted 53 minutes ago
I'm still astonished they're piping up after the hiding West Ham gave them on Saturday. It was the first time in 50 years they lost at home with a result like that. Moyesesque stat or what? And Jlou thinks they're in the battle for 4th
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But still a better stat than LvG's United losing 4-0 to MK Dons.
I mean I know it was only League (Capital One) cup but FFS League 1 opposition caning United 4-0. Time to climb down from that high horse of yours.
posted on 1/9/15
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
As far as I can tell the layman's equivalent of RMs statement is:
1.- United agreed to open negotiations in the morning.
2.- Real Madrid agree to have these talks.
3.- United demand Navas be part of the deal and tell RM they are in contact with Navas' representatives.
4.- Real Madrid and Manchester United reached an agreement for the transfers of both players at 13.39 Spanish time.
5.- At 21:43 (8 hrs later), United send minorly amended contracts to RM. RM accept immediately.
6.- RM obtained signatures of both De Gea and Navas, and send to United at 23:32. (opinion, the DDG is done now all that remains is Navas's)
7.- United reach final agreement with Navas at 23:53
8.- Manchester United entered the details of the David de Gea deal, not those of Keylor Navas, at 00:00 Spanish time.
You can accuse me of being biased or anti-United all you want, but it looks, based on the statement and assuming it's right, that United had about half an hour to key DDGs transfer into the system after sitting on the contracts for most of the day.
How can you fook that up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about we didn't want to enter the DDG details until we had confirmation that Navas was definitely coming the other way? We could've ended up with Real having DDG and Navas, and the Navas one not going through today!! We had to make sure Navas was part of the deal and until RM enter those details there is no deal?
posted on 1/9/15
Mourinho shopping at LIDL
posted on 1/9/15
Manchester United notes Real Madrid’s statement on the attempt to sign David De Gea and sell Navas to Manchester United. The club feels compelled to provide some clarification with the following facts.
- Manchester United did not seek contact from Real Madrid for the sale of David. David is a key member of our squad and the club’s preference was not to sell.
- No offer was received for David until yesterday.
- At lunchtime yesterday, Real Madrid made its first offer to buy David. A deal was agreed between the clubs, which included Navas being transferred to Old Trafford. The deals were dependent on each other.
- In the last several hours of the process, with Navas at the Real Madrid training ground, Real Madrid were controlling the documentation processes of David, Navas and Real Madrid. Manchester United was in control only of the documentation of Manchester United.
- Manchester United sent transfer documents for both players to Real Madrid at 20:42 BST. David’s documentation was returned by Real Madrid to Manchester United without the signatory page at 22:32 BST.
- At 22:40 BST, minutes before the deadline, major changes to the documentation came through to Manchester United which immediately put the deals at risk.
- Only at 22:55 BST were the documents that are needed to cancel David’s contract received by Manchester United from Real Madrid.
- At this point Navas’ documentation was still not returned by Real Madrid.
- At 22:58 BST, the transfer agreement was sent back by Manchester United, uploaded onto TMS and accepted – all before the deadline.
- It is our understanding that the deals couldn’t happen because:
Real Madrid didn’t upload David’s documents onto TMS in time (Manchester United did)
Real Madrid didn’t upload David’s documents to the Spanish league in time, per reports it seems some 28 minutes after the deadline
- The fact that Manchester United filed the papers on time was acknowledged by the Football Association, who offered to support that claim in any discussions with FIFA. The club offered this assistance, as well as its own timestamped documents to Real Madrid but they have chosen not to go down this route.
Manchester United acts appropriately and efficiently in its transfer dealings. The club is delighted that its fan-favourite double Player of the Year, David de Gea, remains a Manchester United player.
Page 8 of 8
6 | 7 | 8