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It's not just a moral question if should we take more people (though I think unquestionably we should)
It's also a competency issue of the Priti Patel and what she and her predecessors have done to the Home Office
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1501106195909783552?t=rfejIrYravnYPUPk9XKzJQ&s=19
You've got other ministers saying you can borrow my admin bods if you need
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She also misled the house yesterday I believe by claiming they had a visa centre in France only to backtrack a few minutes later and admit it wasn't actually operational yet.
https://twitter.com/navalny/status/1501123330262380551?t=LMW_xAhZIuE587r2zEEGsg&s=19
Great thread showing how average russian might think
Anyone read about Joe Rogan sharing a post by a fake CNN Twitter feed claiming that Steven Seagal was fighting with Russian special forces in Ukraine?
Just when you think the grifting cant couldn’t do anything more spectacularly stupid…
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/0307/1284925-embassy/
Dunno if any of you saw this?
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Anyone read about Joe Rogan sharing a post by a fake CNN Twitter feed claiming that Steven Seagal was fighting with Russian special forces in Ukraine?
Just when you think the grifting cant couldn’t do anything more spectacularly stupid…
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But but but but Spotify….
Grifters gonna Grift.
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I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Surely, considering the housing crisis we've experienced for years, the attacks on the green belt, the NIMBYism against new builds, it could move up the list of priorities as one potential area of solution.
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I’m not so sure mate. There is a housing shortage, we all agree on that, but significantly changing private property rights would have absolutely massive repercussions
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No doubts but we managed to organise compulsory purchase orders for the likes of HS2 and other infrastructural causes.
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I don’t think they compare in scale to changing private property rights mate.
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Agree to disagree, housing is as much an infrastructure issue as trains and tunnels. Use 'em or lose 'em.
Also, vacant property if they are left to fall into disrepair will ultimately, if a danger to the public, cost the taxpayer.
It's a waste of an already available resource rather than repairing/repurposing. I'm sure there are developers who would jump at the chance to take over existing, rotring, properties
I do appreciate this country's obsession with property, I have that myself, but if a building exists, it's owners have abandoned or are unable/unwilling to utilise it then as an option, I'm not suggesting we steal the property off it's owners.
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Well it kind of is stealing peoples’ property, isn’t it? Your not using it so we’ll put some people in it. What happened if they damage it? How do you get them out? What if you want to use it a month later?
It will never happen and people really should get this ridiculous idea out of their heads but it’s completely ludicrous.
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Anyone read about Joe Rogan sharing a post by a fake CNN Twitter feed claiming that Steven Seagal was fighting with Russian special forces in Ukraine?
Just when you think the grifting cant couldn’t do anything more spectacularly stupid…
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But but but but Spotify….
Grifters gonna Grift.
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Spotify and Twitter are as bad as each other, IMO. It’s only the nature of the bulk of their most popular content that divides them.
Both are equally willing to provide a platform for hate speech and misinformation.
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I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Surely, considering the housing crisis we've experienced for years, the attacks on the green belt, the NIMBYism against new builds, it could move up the list of priorities as one potential area of solution.
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I’m not so sure mate. There is a housing shortage, we all agree on that, but significantly changing private property rights would have absolutely massive repercussions
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No doubts but we managed to organise compulsory purchase orders for the likes of HS2 and other infrastructural causes.
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I don’t think they compare in scale to changing private property rights mate.
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Agree to disagree, housing is as much an infrastructure issue as trains and tunnels. Use 'em or lose 'em.
Also, vacant property if they are left to fall into disrepair will ultimately, if a danger to the public, cost the taxpayer.
It's a waste of an already available resource rather than repairing/repurposing. I'm sure there are developers who would jump at the chance to take over existing, rotring, properties
I do appreciate this country's obsession with property, I have that myself, but if a building exists, it's owners have abandoned or are unable/unwilling to utilise it then as an option, I'm not suggesting we steal the property off it's owners.
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Well it kind of is stealing peoples’ property, isn’t it? Your not using it so we’ll put some people in it. What happened if they damage it? How do you get them out? What if you want to use it a month later?
It will never happen and people really should get this ridiculous idea out of their heads but it’s completely ludicrous.
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Anyone read about Joe Rogan sharing a post by a fake CNN Twitter feed claiming that Steven Seagal was fighting with Russian special forces in Ukraine?
Just when you think the grifting cant couldn’t do anything more spectacularly stupid…
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I remember 15/20+ years ago when the internet and computers were becoming a mainstream thing being told regularly by parents or teachers to not believe everything you read on the internet.
Whereas now it seems a lot will quite happily parrot and share Tweets or FB posts akin to "my mate's ex girlfriend's brother in law, said..."
Find it difficult to find any sympathy for second home owners who leave property empty most of the year whilst there are people who can’t afford to buy or rent as a result. I’d much rather see property used all year round than empty whilst people struggle.
On its new list of unfriendly states, Russia has recognised Taiwan as a sovereign state
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Anyone read about Joe Rogan sharing a post by a fake CNN Twitter feed claiming that Steven Seagal was fighting with Russian special forces in Ukraine?
Just when you think the grifting cant couldn’t do anything more spectacularly stupid…
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I remember 15/20+ years ago when the internet and computers were becoming a mainstream thing being told regularly by parents or teachers to not believe everything you read on the internet.
Whereas now it seems a lot will quite happily parrot and share Tweets or FB posts akin to "my mate's ex girlfriend's brother in law, said..."
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Yeah it’s quite bad. It’s because we’re now mixed with credible stuff online, along with all the nonsense. It’s way too much for us to consume and fact check.
It’s a horrible consequence of the internet. I think as much as it has helped us in so many ways, I’m not sure if I would keep it. If it were up to me…
With every pro comes a con…..
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On its new list of unfriendly states, Russia has recognised Taiwan as a sovereign state
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Shots fired at China then
John Bercow was a "serial bully" while House of Commons Speaker and should not be given a parliamentary pass, a report has said.
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I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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So - you're suggesting hotels lose trade from having refugees permanently living there.
Will the taxpayer be subsidising hospitality and will you pay the premiums please..
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I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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It’s really not that simple though, is it?
Also - refugees living in campsites and caravans isn't as progressive sounding as you must have thought it was in your head lol.
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I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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So - you're suggesting hotels lose trade from having refugees permanently living there.
Will the taxpayer be subsidising hospitality and will you pay the premiums please..
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It’s fine. The hotel industry has been booming this past few years so it’s fine
Wouldn't it be possible for the charities holding the Ukraine people's money to charter a cruise ship dock in calais put the refugees aboard and process them into the UK, sounds simple but sometimes the best solutions are.
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I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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So - you're suggesting hotels lose trade from having refugees permanently living there.
Will the taxpayer be subsidising hospitality and will you pay the premiums please..
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It’s fine. The hotel industry has been booming this past few years so it’s fine
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Yeah and it's not like the taxpayer is already on the hook for years of lost trade....
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I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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So - you're suggesting hotels lose trade from having refugees permanently living there.
Will the taxpayer be subsidising hospitality and will you pay the premiums please..
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Of course the taxpayer would be subsidising it, that's what providing aid is all about - but this would in turn be paid by international aid budgets from around the world. These would not be permanent, obviously - these people don't want to be here.
Mate, I'm just offering alternative solutions in an argument full of people just throwing up barriers.
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Also - refugees living in campsites and caravans isn't as progressive sounding as you must have thought it was in your head lol.
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It's better than them being on the streets across Europe or being bombed in their homes. It's a temporary solution. Obviously.
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Also - refugees living in campsites and caravans isn't as progressive sounding as you must have thought it was in your head lol.
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It's better than them being on the streets across Europe or being bombed in their homes. It's a temporary solution. Obviously.
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Nothing more permanent than temporary programmes mate.
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
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It's not just a moral question if should we take more people (though I think unquestionably we should)
It's also a competency issue of the Priti Patel and what she and her predecessors have done to the Home Office
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1501106195909783552?t=rfejIrYravnYPUPk9XKzJQ&s=19
You've got other ministers saying you can borrow my admin bods if you need
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She also misled the house yesterday I believe by claiming they had a visa centre in France only to backtrack a few minutes later and admit it wasn't actually operational yet.
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https://twitter.com/navalny/status/1501123330262380551?t=LMW_xAhZIuE587r2zEEGsg&s=19
Great thread showing how average russian might think
posted on 8/3/22
Anyone read about Joe Rogan sharing a post by a fake CNN Twitter feed claiming that Steven Seagal was fighting with Russian special forces in Ukraine?
Just when you think the grifting cant couldn’t do anything more spectacularly stupid…
posted on 8/3/22
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/0307/1284925-embassy/
Dunno if any of you saw this?
posted on 8/3/22
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Anyone read about Joe Rogan sharing a post by a fake CNN Twitter feed claiming that Steven Seagal was fighting with Russian special forces in Ukraine?
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But but but but Spotify….
Grifters gonna Grift.
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Surely, considering the housing crisis we've experienced for years, the attacks on the green belt, the NIMBYism against new builds, it could move up the list of priorities as one potential area of solution.
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I’m not so sure mate. There is a housing shortage, we all agree on that, but significantly changing private property rights would have absolutely massive repercussions
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No doubts but we managed to organise compulsory purchase orders for the likes of HS2 and other infrastructural causes.
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I don’t think they compare in scale to changing private property rights mate.
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Agree to disagree, housing is as much an infrastructure issue as trains and tunnels. Use 'em or lose 'em.
Also, vacant property if they are left to fall into disrepair will ultimately, if a danger to the public, cost the taxpayer.
It's a waste of an already available resource rather than repairing/repurposing. I'm sure there are developers who would jump at the chance to take over existing, rotring, properties
I do appreciate this country's obsession with property, I have that myself, but if a building exists, it's owners have abandoned or are unable/unwilling to utilise it then as an option, I'm not suggesting we steal the property off it's owners.
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Well it kind of is stealing peoples’ property, isn’t it? Your not using it so we’ll put some people in it. What happened if they damage it? How do you get them out? What if you want to use it a month later?
It will never happen and people really should get this ridiculous idea out of their heads but it’s completely ludicrous.
posted on 8/3/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
Anyone read about Joe Rogan sharing a post by a fake CNN Twitter feed claiming that Steven Seagal was fighting with Russian special forces in Ukraine?
Just when you think the grifting cant couldn’t do anything more spectacularly stupid…
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But but but but Spotify….
Grifters gonna Grift.
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Spotify and Twitter are as bad as each other, IMO. It’s only the nature of the bulk of their most popular content that divides them.
Both are equally willing to provide a platform for hate speech and misinformation.
posted on 8/3/22
*you're
posted on 8/3/22
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Surely, considering the housing crisis we've experienced for years, the attacks on the green belt, the NIMBYism against new builds, it could move up the list of priorities as one potential area of solution.
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I’m not so sure mate. There is a housing shortage, we all agree on that, but significantly changing private property rights would have absolutely massive repercussions
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No doubts but we managed to organise compulsory purchase orders for the likes of HS2 and other infrastructural causes.
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I don’t think they compare in scale to changing private property rights mate.
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Agree to disagree, housing is as much an infrastructure issue as trains and tunnels. Use 'em or lose 'em.
Also, vacant property if they are left to fall into disrepair will ultimately, if a danger to the public, cost the taxpayer.
It's a waste of an already available resource rather than repairing/repurposing. I'm sure there are developers who would jump at the chance to take over existing, rotring, properties
I do appreciate this country's obsession with property, I have that myself, but if a building exists, it's owners have abandoned or are unable/unwilling to utilise it then as an option, I'm not suggesting we steal the property off it's owners.
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Well it kind of is stealing peoples’ property, isn’t it? Your not using it so we’ll put some people in it. What happened if they damage it? How do you get them out? What if you want to use it a month later?
It will never happen and people really should get this ridiculous idea out of their heads but it’s completely ludicrous.
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Cold hands and rushed typing. Please don’t judge 😂😂
posted on 8/3/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 12 minutes ago
Anyone read about Joe Rogan sharing a post by a fake CNN Twitter feed claiming that Steven Seagal was fighting with Russian special forces in Ukraine?
Just when you think the grifting cant couldn’t do anything more spectacularly stupid…
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I remember 15/20+ years ago when the internet and computers were becoming a mainstream thing being told regularly by parents or teachers to not believe everything you read on the internet.
Whereas now it seems a lot will quite happily parrot and share Tweets or FB posts akin to "my mate's ex girlfriend's brother in law, said..."
posted on 8/3/22
Find it difficult to find any sympathy for second home owners who leave property empty most of the year whilst there are people who can’t afford to buy or rent as a result. I’d much rather see property used all year round than empty whilst people struggle.
posted on 8/3/22
On its new list of unfriendly states, Russia has recognised Taiwan as a sovereign state
posted on 8/3/22
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 12 minutes ago
Anyone read about Joe Rogan sharing a post by a fake CNN Twitter feed claiming that Steven Seagal was fighting with Russian special forces in Ukraine?
Just when you think the grifting cant couldn’t do anything more spectacularly stupid…
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I remember 15/20+ years ago when the internet and computers were becoming a mainstream thing being told regularly by parents or teachers to not believe everything you read on the internet.
Whereas now it seems a lot will quite happily parrot and share Tweets or FB posts akin to "my mate's ex girlfriend's brother in law, said..."
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Yeah it’s quite bad. It’s because we’re now mixed with credible stuff online, along with all the nonsense. It’s way too much for us to consume and fact check.
It’s a horrible consequence of the internet. I think as much as it has helped us in so many ways, I’m not sure if I would keep it. If it were up to me…
With every pro comes a con…..
posted on 8/3/22
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 9 minutes ago
On its new list of unfriendly states, Russia has recognised Taiwan as a sovereign state
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Shots fired at China then
posted on 8/3/22
John Bercow was a "serial bully" while House of Commons Speaker and should not be given a parliamentary pass, a report has said.
posted on 8/3/22
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
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comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 1 minute ago
I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
posted on 8/3/22
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
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comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 1 minute ago
I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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So - you're suggesting hotels lose trade from having refugees permanently living there.
Will the taxpayer be subsidising hospitality and will you pay the premiums please..
posted on 8/3/22
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 1 minute ago
I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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It’s really not that simple though, is it?
posted on 8/3/22
Also - refugees living in campsites and caravans isn't as progressive sounding as you must have thought it was in your head lol.
posted on 8/3/22
comment by puNPE (U22712)
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comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
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posted 32 seconds ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 1 minute ago
I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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So - you're suggesting hotels lose trade from having refugees permanently living there.
Will the taxpayer be subsidising hospitality and will you pay the premiums please..
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It’s fine. The hotel industry has been booming this past few years so it’s fine
posted on 8/3/22
Wouldn't it be possible for the charities holding the Ukraine people's money to charter a cruise ship dock in calais put the refugees aboard and process them into the UK, sounds simple but sometimes the best solutions are.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 1 minute ago
I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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So - you're suggesting hotels lose trade from having refugees permanently living there.
Will the taxpayer be subsidising hospitality and will you pay the premiums please..
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It’s fine. The hotel industry has been booming this past few years so it’s fine
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Yeah and it's not like the taxpayer is already on the hook for years of lost trade....
posted on 8/3/22
comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 1 minute ago
I think everyone demanding more should offer a room in their home to a Ukrainian rather than virtue signalling from their computer screen
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Why do people use this argument as though the only options are not accept any refugees or have one live in your house?
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https://www.propertymark.co.uk/resource/more-must-be-done-to-get-empty-homes-back-into-use.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20UK%20Government%20data,target%20of%20300%2C000%20per%20year.
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Private property rights are a big thing to change.
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Lol is that the best the left can do? Steal property to support refugees?
Madness. No wonder they lose every election .
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So you wouldn’t be happy with refugees being put up in property claimed from Russian oligarchs through sanctions then?
Second home laws need amending anyway. Disgusting some can afford to leave a property empty most of the year whilst those born and brought up in the local area can’t afford to buy or even rent as a result.
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Please tell me how we could put 200k people into oligarch homes. Cheers
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Didn’t say put 200k in them. It’s one example of empty properties being used for practical purposes after being seized by the government. Better idea than your ‘you take refugees in’ solution.
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There are approx. 850k hotel rooms, 25k holiday let homes, 240k long term empty homes, and some 25k B&Bs (which or may not be included in the 850k above, who knows) in the UK. Hell there are 6k campsites in the UK and an estimated 500k touring caravans, and over 350k 'fixed' holiday caravans, over 200k motorhomes. All of these are worth considering before we need to start talking about taking people into our own homes. I'd take people into my home if needed, why wouldn't anyone? There's plenty of room for short term refugees with a little imagination.
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So - you're suggesting hotels lose trade from having refugees permanently living there.
Will the taxpayer be subsidising hospitality and will you pay the premiums please..
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Of course the taxpayer would be subsidising it, that's what providing aid is all about - but this would in turn be paid by international aid budgets from around the world. These would not be permanent, obviously - these people don't want to be here.
Mate, I'm just offering alternative solutions in an argument full of people just throwing up barriers.
posted on 8/3/22
comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 4 minutes ago
Also - refugees living in campsites and caravans isn't as progressive sounding as you must have thought it was in your head lol.
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It's better than them being on the streets across Europe or being bombed in their homes. It's a temporary solution. Obviously.
posted on 8/3/22
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by puNPE (U22712)
posted 4 minutes ago
Also - refugees living in campsites and caravans isn't as progressive sounding as you must have thought it was in your head lol.
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It's better than them being on the streets across Europe or being bombed in their homes. It's a temporary solution. Obviously.
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Nothing more permanent than temporary programmes mate.
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