https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/05/uk-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-above-32000-to-highest-in-europe
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/05/uk-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-above-32000-to-highest-in-europe
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Interesting stat on on that the UK have had less deaths per 100,000 people than Spain Italy and Belgium. Think people are too obsessed with TOTAL DEATHS, when in reality this figure doesn’t tell the whole story.
the governments chief scientific adviser ladies and gents
Hunt: Why didn't you model death rates with test, track and trace from the outset?
Vallance: I can't remember why.
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/05/uk-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-above-32000-to-highest-in-europe
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Interesting stat on on that the UK have had less deaths per 100,000 people than Spain Italy and Belgium. Think people are too obsessed with TOTAL DEATHS, when in reality this figure doesn’t tell the whole story.
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I’m sure the whole story is far far worse.
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comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour ago
Remember how we all looked on in horror at Italy two months ago.
The government had so many warnings. Keeping pubs, shops and schools open so long when we all knew it was spreading. Giving all the idiots one last night at the pub
Now they’re blatantly lying about testing figures and people just lap it up. I’m not convinced even this will damage the tories.
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I think the only thing that stands a chance of damaging the Tories will be the economic consequences of this situation and Brexit.
The trouble is, they have successful ran an anti-media campaign with this; so now somehow people think the news is untrustworthy but will lap up political spin from those in charge. Where a politician can lie or fiddle figures, but it will be the media that are criticised for challenging, asking questions or criticising it. Much like with the idiot over the pond.
It's like living in the prelude to a dystopian novel.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/05/uk-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-above-32000-to-highest-in-europe
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Interesting stat on on that the UK have had less deaths per 100,000 people than Spain Italy and Belgium. Think people are too obsessed with TOTAL DEATHS, when in reality this figure doesn’t tell the whole story.
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I’m sure the whole story is far far worse.
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Would suit your argument of course. I’m sure things will become clearer once we’re completely out of this, probably sometime next year. I think each country has probably though they haven’t done enough.
Interesting. Vallance says initially trace/test efforts were focused on people coming in from China but they subsequently realised that in the early stages there were lots of cases coming in from "multiple European sources" from late Feb, detected early March.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour ago
Remember how we all looked on in horror at Italy two months ago.
The government had so many warnings. Keeping pubs, shops and schools open so long when we all knew it was spreading. Giving all the idiots one last night at the pub
Now they’re blatantly lying about testing figures and people just lap it up. I’m not convinced even this will damage the tories.
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I think the only thing that stands a chance of damaging the Tories will be the economic consequences of this situation and Brexit.
The trouble is, they have successful ran an anti-media campaign with this; so now somehow people think the news is untrustworthy but will lap up political spin from those in charge. Where a politician can lie or fiddle figures, but it will be the media that are criticised for challenging, asking questions or criticising it. Much like with the idiot over the pond.
It's like living in the prelude to a dystopian novel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tory spin and propaganda has been on point the last few years.
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Whatever you think of Johnson he is nothing like Trump. Trump just shouts 'fake news' at a question he doesn't like.
he's everything like Trump, everything
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 1 minute ago
Whatever you think of Johnson he is nothing like Trump. Trump just shouts 'fake news' at a question he doesn't like.
he's everything like Trump, everything
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Yep.
Both full of $hit chancers completely out of their depth.
Sadly the stats don’t lie.
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even as a person he's like Trump
he's a horrible cant
Trump is a different level.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour ago
Remember how we all looked on in horror at Italy two months ago.
The government had so many warnings. Keeping pubs, shops and schools open so long when we all knew it was spreading. Giving all the idiots one last night at the pub
Now they’re blatantly lying about testing figures and people just lap it up. I’m not convinced even this will damage the tories.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the only thing that stands a chance of damaging the Tories will be the economic consequences of this situation and Brexit.
The trouble is, they have successful ran an anti-media campaign with this; so now somehow people think the news is untrustworthy but will lap up political spin from those in charge. Where a politician can lie or fiddle figures, but it will be the media that are criticised for challenging, asking questions or criticising it. Much like with the idiot over the pond.
It's like living in the prelude to a dystopian novel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whatever you think of Johnson he is nothing like Trump. Trump just shouts 'fake news' at a question he doesn't like.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most of our professional, fourth estate, questioners provide the Government with a safe space.
Look at the political editor of the national broadcaster, she's built a career of parroting official spin from her 'senior Downing Street official'.
If Johnson or his ministers received the scrutiny their non-answers deserved rather than the soft soap the actually get, do you really believe they wouldn't cry 'fake news' ?
Don't let you Tory hate cloud your judgement.
i say this from a human being POV not a political one
My mate just told me about a group of 20 lads breaking into a power league for a football tournament in Mile End. I cannot believe there are still people who aren’t taking this seriously at all. Even when people’s lives depend on it, some really can’t seem to use common sense and stay away.
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by EastUpper (U11623)
posted 1 minute ago
Wow that's surprising! One if the largest populations in the EU has one on the highest death tolls.
Who would have thought?
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Hasn’t Germany got the largest population
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Glad someone pointed this out. Kind of destroys the point being made about population.
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If Johnson or his ministers received the scrutiny their non-answers deserved rather than the soft soap the actually get, do you really believe they wouldn't cry 'fake news' ?
.....
What a load of bollox.
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
My mate just told me about a group of 20 lads breaking into a power league for a football tournament in Mile End. I cannot believe there are still people who aren’t taking this seriously at all. Even when people’s lives depend on it, some really can’t seem to use common sense and stay away.
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So selfish.
We’re all bored and want to see our families and mates, but we can’t
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
My mate just told me about a group of 20 lads breaking into a power league for a football tournament in Mile End. I cannot believe there are still people who aren’t taking this seriously at all. Even when people’s lives depend on it, some really can’t seem to use common sense and stay away.
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Eastenders for you.
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They’ve suspended filming.
This country is massively over populated, there are way too many people per square metre living here, we were always going to be hard hit. That is the fault of previous governments, not the current one.
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posted on 5/5/20
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/05/uk-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-above-32000-to-highest-in-europe
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/05/uk-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-above-32000-to-highest-in-europe
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Interesting stat on on that the UK have had less deaths per 100,000 people than Spain Italy and Belgium. Think people are too obsessed with TOTAL DEATHS, when in reality this figure doesn’t tell the whole story.
posted on 5/5/20
the governments chief scientific adviser ladies and gents
Hunt: Why didn't you model death rates with test, track and trace from the outset?
Vallance: I can't remember why.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/05/uk-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-above-32000-to-highest-in-europe
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Interesting stat on on that the UK have had less deaths per 100,000 people than Spain Italy and Belgium. Think people are too obsessed with TOTAL DEATHS, when in reality this figure doesn’t tell the whole story.
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I’m sure the whole story is far far worse.
posted on 5/5/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour ago
Remember how we all looked on in horror at Italy two months ago.
The government had so many warnings. Keeping pubs, shops and schools open so long when we all knew it was spreading. Giving all the idiots one last night at the pub
Now they’re blatantly lying about testing figures and people just lap it up. I’m not convinced even this will damage the tories.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the only thing that stands a chance of damaging the Tories will be the economic consequences of this situation and Brexit.
The trouble is, they have successful ran an anti-media campaign with this; so now somehow people think the news is untrustworthy but will lap up political spin from those in charge. Where a politician can lie or fiddle figures, but it will be the media that are criticised for challenging, asking questions or criticising it. Much like with the idiot over the pond.
It's like living in the prelude to a dystopian novel.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/05/uk-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-above-32000-to-highest-in-europe
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Interesting stat on on that the UK have had less deaths per 100,000 people than Spain Italy and Belgium. Think people are too obsessed with TOTAL DEATHS, when in reality this figure doesn’t tell the whole story.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m sure the whole story is far far worse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would suit your argument of course. I’m sure things will become clearer once we’re completely out of this, probably sometime next year. I think each country has probably though they haven’t done enough.
posted on 5/5/20
Interesting. Vallance says initially trace/test efforts were focused on people coming in from China but they subsequently realised that in the early stages there were lots of cases coming in from "multiple European sources" from late Feb, detected early March.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour ago
Remember how we all looked on in horror at Italy two months ago.
The government had so many warnings. Keeping pubs, shops and schools open so long when we all knew it was spreading. Giving all the idiots one last night at the pub
Now they’re blatantly lying about testing figures and people just lap it up. I’m not convinced even this will damage the tories.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the only thing that stands a chance of damaging the Tories will be the economic consequences of this situation and Brexit.
The trouble is, they have successful ran an anti-media campaign with this; so now somehow people think the news is untrustworthy but will lap up political spin from those in charge. Where a politician can lie or fiddle figures, but it will be the media that are criticised for challenging, asking questions or criticising it. Much like with the idiot over the pond.
It's like living in the prelude to a dystopian novel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tory spin and propaganda has been on point the last few years.
posted on 5/5/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 5/5/20
Whatever you think of Johnson he is nothing like Trump. Trump just shouts 'fake news' at a question he doesn't like.
he's everything like Trump, everything
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 1 minute ago
Whatever you think of Johnson he is nothing like Trump. Trump just shouts 'fake news' at a question he doesn't like.
he's everything like Trump, everything
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.
Both full of $hit chancers completely out of their depth.
Sadly the stats don’t lie.
posted on 5/5/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 5/5/20
even as a person he's like Trump
he's a horrible cant
posted on 5/5/20
Trump is a different level.
posted on 5/5/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour ago
Remember how we all looked on in horror at Italy two months ago.
The government had so many warnings. Keeping pubs, shops and schools open so long when we all knew it was spreading. Giving all the idiots one last night at the pub
Now they’re blatantly lying about testing figures and people just lap it up. I’m not convinced even this will damage the tories.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the only thing that stands a chance of damaging the Tories will be the economic consequences of this situation and Brexit.
The trouble is, they have successful ran an anti-media campaign with this; so now somehow people think the news is untrustworthy but will lap up political spin from those in charge. Where a politician can lie or fiddle figures, but it will be the media that are criticised for challenging, asking questions or criticising it. Much like with the idiot over the pond.
It's like living in the prelude to a dystopian novel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whatever you think of Johnson he is nothing like Trump. Trump just shouts 'fake news' at a question he doesn't like.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most of our professional, fourth estate, questioners provide the Government with a safe space.
Look at the political editor of the national broadcaster, she's built a career of parroting official spin from her 'senior Downing Street official'.
If Johnson or his ministers received the scrutiny their non-answers deserved rather than the soft soap the actually get, do you really believe they wouldn't cry 'fake news' ?
posted on 5/5/20
Don't let you Tory hate cloud your judgement.
i say this from a human being POV not a political one
posted on 5/5/20
My mate just told me about a group of 20 lads breaking into a power league for a football tournament in Mile End. I cannot believe there are still people who aren’t taking this seriously at all. Even when people’s lives depend on it, some really can’t seem to use common sense and stay away.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by EastUpper (U11623)
posted 1 minute ago
Wow that's surprising! One if the largest populations in the EU has one on the highest death tolls.
Who would have thought?
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Hasn’t Germany got the largest population
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Glad someone pointed this out. Kind of destroys the point being made about population.
posted on 5/5/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 5/5/20
If Johnson or his ministers received the scrutiny their non-answers deserved rather than the soft soap the actually get, do you really believe they wouldn't cry 'fake news' ?
.....
What a load of bollox.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
My mate just told me about a group of 20 lads breaking into a power league for a football tournament in Mile End. I cannot believe there are still people who aren’t taking this seriously at all. Even when people’s lives depend on it, some really can’t seem to use common sense and stay away.
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So selfish.
We’re all bored and want to see our families and mates, but we can’t
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
My mate just told me about a group of 20 lads breaking into a power league for a football tournament in Mile End. I cannot believe there are still people who aren’t taking this seriously at all. Even when people’s lives depend on it, some really can’t seem to use common sense and stay away.
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Eastenders for you.
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They’ve suspended filming.
posted on 5/5/20
This country is massively over populated, there are way too many people per square metre living here, we were always going to be hard hit. That is the fault of previous governments, not the current one.
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