Tbf I have seen loads of young Greek and Albanian lads hanging in groups round my way
But that’s cos a lot of Greeks and Albanians live in my area. Of course it’s all types doing it though
Where do you live Bennyville? I live just off Green lanes near the north circular
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London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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“Own set of rules and laws”
Muslims by any chance?
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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You were implying that ethnic communities are generally worse affected proportionally than the white population, which statistically worldwide is absolutely correct, from Norway, to the U.K. to the USA.
It’s either a socio-economic issue, or a cultural one. Either way, it’s important to understand which and what we do to protect and support these communities in the future.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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You were implying that ethnic communities are generally worse affected proportionally than the white population, which statistically worldwide is absolutely correct, from Norway, to the U.K. to the USA.
It’s either a socio-economic issue, or a cultural one. Either way, it’s important to understand which and what we do to protect and support these communities in the future.
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The government is paying lip service to this.
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
Tbf I have seen loads of young Greek and Albanian lads hanging in groups round my way
But that’s cos a lot of Greeks and Albanians live in my area. Of course it’s all types doing it though
Where do you live Bennyville? I live just off Green lanes near the north circular
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The worst offenders over here are bunches of teenagers. They just seem to think the law does not apply to them.
The parents should be charged for not controlling their offspring.
Some of our restrictions are lifting from today and the country starts to reopen from May 18th.
Hope you are well Palmers. I recall you saying your mother was in the at risk age category?
Hope all is good there also.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 11 minutes ago
If Johnson or his ministers received the scrutiny their non-answers deserved rather than the soft soap the actually get, do you really believe they wouldn't cry 'fake news' ?
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What a load of bollox.
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Really isn't. Hancock bleating about questions after the panorama programme which he said was unfair and journalistically unobjective.
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Always makes me laugh when Hancock is presented with a difficult question, and his reaction is to stare into the middle distance, and say, 'I don't recognise that'.
There was never a more obviois example of a person well and truly out of their depth, than that of our current Health Secretary.
Or our current Home Secretary, or Foreign Secretary, or Education Secretary................
We have basically, due to brexit, ended up with the worst the Conservative party have to offer, running this country, at the most crucial period since WW2.
Just as a point, the situation in Belgium is slightly different to ours, as they are, apparently, including probable covid deaths in their official statistics, which is something that we don't do, so that explains why their per capita death toll is so much higher.
In all actuality they are probably overestimating deaths and we are probably underestimating deaths.
That's without getting into the whole care home reports situation.
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posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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“Own set of rules and laws”
Muslims by any chance?
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I never said anything about Muslims. If it makes you feel better white, middle class are probably the biggest flouters. The amount of people walking round my local high street on the weekend was staggering, and no I was told about this I wasn’t one of them. My point was if people feel safe in their communities, eg go to their local shops, see regular faces, they won’t feel like they are causing any harm. I’m not a Tory voter by a long shot, but is it entirely fair to place 100% of the blame on them? When they are receiving scientific advice from the WHO etc. Just seems like the easy way out.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-hate-crimes-against-chinese-people-soar-in-uk-during-covid-19-crisis-11979388
Urgh.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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You were implying that ethnic communities are generally worse affected proportionally than the white population, which statistically worldwide is absolutely correct, from Norway, to the U.K. to the USA.
It’s either a socio-economic issue, or a cultural one. Either way, it’s important to understand which and what we do to protect and support these communities in the future.
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Where did I say ethnic communities? Please read my post above.
Sorry thought you were suggesting that I was saying ethnic minorities were the worse flouters, ignore my comment
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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“Own set of rules and laws”
Muslims by any chance?
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I never said anything about Muslims. If it makes you feel better white, middle class are probably the biggest flouters. The amount of people walking round my local high street on the weekend was staggering, and no I was told about this I wasn’t one of them. My point was if people feel safe in their communities, eg go to their local shops, see regular faces, they won’t feel like they are causing any harm. I’m not a Tory voter by a long shot, but is it entirely fair to place 100% of the blame on them? When they are receiving scientific advice from the WHO etc. Just seems like the easy way out.
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We’re supposed to go to our local shops mate. Mine are a Tesco Metro, a corner shop and a butchers.
Everyone uses them.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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You were implying that ethnic communities are generally worse affected proportionally than the white population, which statistically worldwide is absolutely correct, from Norway, to the U.K. to the USA.
It’s either a socio-economic issue, or a cultural one. Either way, it’s important to understand which and what we do to protect and support these communities in the future.
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The government is paying lip service to this.
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True. However, if it’s a cultural issue then it’s an understandably sensitive topic. We pride ourselves on being multicultural, so to then try to suggest that a culture is a contributing factor to the spread of disease within a community its risqué to say the least for any MP.
On the other hand, if it could be solved through enrichment then we need to understand how that can be achieved sensibly.
Regardless, the government is in a precarious position outside of the side issue of the impact on BAME communities, because their response hasn’t been perfect in my opinion, and people expect perfection from those chosen to govern us.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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“Own set of rules and laws”
Muslims by any chance?
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I never said anything about Muslims. If it makes you feel better white, middle class are probably the biggest flouters. The amount of people walking round my local high street on the weekend was staggering, and no I was told about this I wasn’t one of them. My point was if people feel safe in their communities, eg go to their local shops, see regular faces, they won’t feel like they are causing any harm. I’m not a Tory voter by a long shot, but is it entirely fair to place 100% of the blame on them? When they are receiving scientific advice from the WHO etc. Just seems like the easy way out.
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We’re supposed to go to our local shops mate. Mine are a Tesco Metro, a corner shop and a butchers.
Everyone uses them.
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Where did I say you can’t do any of those things? I was suggesting that social distancing was not being observed properly.
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
Tbf I have seen loads of young Greek and Albanian lads hanging in groups round my way
But that’s cos a lot of Greeks and Albanians live in my area. Of course it’s all types doing it though
Where do you live Bennyville? I live just off Green lanes near the north circular
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The worst offenders over here are bunches of teenagers. They just seem to think the law does not apply to them.
The parents should be charged for not controlling their offspring.
Some of our restrictions are lifting from today and the country starts to reopen from May 18th.
Hope you are well Palmers. I recall you saying your mother was in the at risk age category?
Hope all is good there also.
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All well thanks Irish snd hope you are too.
Yeah my mum is ok thanks. She’s in her 70s and has underlying conditions. I’m popping over to hers this evening to stay for a few days.
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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You were implying that ethnic communities are generally worse affected proportionally than the white population, which statistically worldwide is absolutely correct, from Norway, to the U.K. to the USA.
It’s either a socio-economic issue, or a cultural one. Either way, it’s important to understand which and what we do to protect and support these communities in the future.
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The government is paying lip service to this.
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True. However, if it’s a cultural issue then it’s an understandably sensitive topic. We pride ourselves on being multicultural, so to then try to suggest that a culture is a contributing factor to the spread of disease within a community its risqué to say the least for any MP.
On the other hand, if it could be solved through enrichment then we need to understand how that can be achieved sensibly.
Regardless, the government is in a precarious position outside of the side issue of the impact on BAME communities, because their response hasn’t been perfect in my opinion, and people expect perfection from those chosen to govern us.
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Contributing to it?
Oh you mean by driving tubes and buses and being on the NHS frontline?
Regardless, the government is in a precarious position outside of the side issue of the impact on BAME communities, because their response hasn’t been perfect in my opinion, and people expect perfection from those chosen to govern us.
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Competence would suffice for most. Alas.
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posted 2 minutes ago
Regardless, the government is in a precarious position outside of the side issue of the impact on BAME communities, because their response hasn’t been perfect in my opinion, and people expect perfection from those chosen to govern us.
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Competence would suffice for most. Alas.
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The Government handling of this has certainly been poor but to compare with other countries is difficult.
If you take into account population, land mass, density of population, and global connectivity, there is an argument that Italy, Spain and France are still coming out worse (only as of now that is).
If those countries are going to take the stance of 'well look at the UK' and their populations fall for it then they are very naive.
I’ve totally given up on the uk and politics. It doesn’t matter how bad they are, how many people they hurt, how much public services they cut or how much they lie to us, the tories always win elections. Even with a proven liar and coward as their leader.
The last election finished me off. I’ll never bother voting again. Zero point when murdoch can control millions thoughts.
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I’ve totally given up on the uk and politics. It doesn’t matter how bad they are, how many people they hurt, how much public services they cut or how much they lie to us, the tories always win elections. Even with a proven liar and coward as their leader.
The last election finished me off. I’ll never bother voting again. Zero point when murdoch can control millions thoughts.
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Yep.
North Korea level propaganda these days.
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comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
This country is massively over populated, there are way too many people per square metre living here, we were always going to be hard hit. That is the fault of previous governments, not the current one.
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I do love how the Tories have been in charge for 10 years now, and you still have people blaming the previous governments.
If they can't fix what you perceive to be a problem in 10 years, then maybe, just maybe, they aren't very competent at what they do.
I really don't understand the people on here who are trying to use population density and demographics to excuse the UK governments response. The government (and everyone) were well aware of the density, particularly in London, and the demographics. They were also pretty well informed from China, Italy, and Spain at how this virus works and spreads etc....and yet they still didn't lockdown early enough and still made all the mistakes that have been listed in this thread.....surely this is an even bigger reason for highlighting their incompetence. Or has the fact that London is a densely populated city and the UK have a older demographic just become known in the last 2 months????
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Tbf I have seen loads of young Greek and Albanian lads hanging in groups round my way
But that’s cos a lot of Greeks and Albanians live in my area. Of course it’s all types doing it though
Where do you live Bennyville? I live just off Green lanes near the north circular
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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“Own set of rules and laws”
Muslims by any chance?
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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You were implying that ethnic communities are generally worse affected proportionally than the white population, which statistically worldwide is absolutely correct, from Norway, to the U.K. to the USA.
It’s either a socio-economic issue, or a cultural one. Either way, it’s important to understand which and what we do to protect and support these communities in the future.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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You were implying that ethnic communities are generally worse affected proportionally than the white population, which statistically worldwide is absolutely correct, from Norway, to the U.K. to the USA.
It’s either a socio-economic issue, or a cultural one. Either way, it’s important to understand which and what we do to protect and support these communities in the future.
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The government is paying lip service to this.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
Tbf I have seen loads of young Greek and Albanian lads hanging in groups round my way
But that’s cos a lot of Greeks and Albanians live in my area. Of course it’s all types doing it though
Where do you live Bennyville? I live just off Green lanes near the north circular
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The worst offenders over here are bunches of teenagers. They just seem to think the law does not apply to them.
The parents should be charged for not controlling their offspring.
Some of our restrictions are lifting from today and the country starts to reopen from May 18th.
Hope you are well Palmers. I recall you saying your mother was in the at risk age category?
Hope all is good there also.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 11 minutes ago
If Johnson or his ministers received the scrutiny their non-answers deserved rather than the soft soap the actually get, do you really believe they wouldn't cry 'fake news' ?
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What a load of bollox.
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Really isn't. Hancock bleating about questions after the panorama programme which he said was unfair and journalistically unobjective.
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Always makes me laugh when Hancock is presented with a difficult question, and his reaction is to stare into the middle distance, and say, 'I don't recognise that'.
There was never a more obviois example of a person well and truly out of their depth, than that of our current Health Secretary.
Or our current Home Secretary, or Foreign Secretary, or Education Secretary................
We have basically, due to brexit, ended up with the worst the Conservative party have to offer, running this country, at the most crucial period since WW2.
posted on 5/5/20
Just as a point, the situation in Belgium is slightly different to ours, as they are, apparently, including probable covid deaths in their official statistics, which is something that we don't do, so that explains why their per capita death toll is so much higher.
In all actuality they are probably overestimating deaths and we are probably underestimating deaths.
That's without getting into the whole care home reports situation.
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comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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“Own set of rules and laws”
Muslims by any chance?
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I never said anything about Muslims. If it makes you feel better white, middle class are probably the biggest flouters. The amount of people walking round my local high street on the weekend was staggering, and no I was told about this I wasn’t one of them. My point was if people feel safe in their communities, eg go to their local shops, see regular faces, they won’t feel like they are causing any harm. I’m not a Tory voter by a long shot, but is it entirely fair to place 100% of the blame on them? When they are receiving scientific advice from the WHO etc. Just seems like the easy way out.
posted on 5/5/20
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-hate-crimes-against-chinese-people-soar-in-uk-during-covid-19-crisis-11979388
Urgh.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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You were implying that ethnic communities are generally worse affected proportionally than the white population, which statistically worldwide is absolutely correct, from Norway, to the U.K. to the USA.
It’s either a socio-economic issue, or a cultural one. Either way, it’s important to understand which and what we do to protect and support these communities in the future.
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Where did I say ethnic communities? Please read my post above.
posted on 5/5/20
Sorry thought you were suggesting that I was saying ethnic minorities were the worse flouters, ignore my comment
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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“Own set of rules and laws”
Muslims by any chance?
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I never said anything about Muslims. If it makes you feel better white, middle class are probably the biggest flouters. The amount of people walking round my local high street on the weekend was staggering, and no I was told about this I wasn’t one of them. My point was if people feel safe in their communities, eg go to their local shops, see regular faces, they won’t feel like they are causing any harm. I’m not a Tory voter by a long shot, but is it entirely fair to place 100% of the blame on them? When they are receiving scientific advice from the WHO etc. Just seems like the easy way out.
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We’re supposed to go to our local shops mate. Mine are a Tesco Metro, a corner shop and a butchers.
Everyone uses them.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 second ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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You were implying that ethnic communities are generally worse affected proportionally than the white population, which statistically worldwide is absolutely correct, from Norway, to the U.K. to the USA.
It’s either a socio-economic issue, or a cultural one. Either way, it’s important to understand which and what we do to protect and support these communities in the future.
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The government is paying lip service to this.
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True. However, if it’s a cultural issue then it’s an understandably sensitive topic. We pride ourselves on being multicultural, so to then try to suggest that a culture is a contributing factor to the spread of disease within a community its risqué to say the least for any MP.
On the other hand, if it could be solved through enrichment then we need to understand how that can be achieved sensibly.
Regardless, the government is in a precarious position outside of the side issue of the impact on BAME communities, because their response hasn’t been perfect in my opinion, and people expect perfection from those chosen to govern us.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
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Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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“Own set of rules and laws”
Muslims by any chance?
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I never said anything about Muslims. If it makes you feel better white, middle class are probably the biggest flouters. The amount of people walking round my local high street on the weekend was staggering, and no I was told about this I wasn’t one of them. My point was if people feel safe in their communities, eg go to their local shops, see regular faces, they won’t feel like they are causing any harm. I’m not a Tory voter by a long shot, but is it entirely fair to place 100% of the blame on them? When they are receiving scientific advice from the WHO etc. Just seems like the easy way out.
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We’re supposed to go to our local shops mate. Mine are a Tesco Metro, a corner shop and a butchers.
Everyone uses them.
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Where did I say you can’t do any of those things? I was suggesting that social distancing was not being observed properly.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
Tbf I have seen loads of young Greek and Albanian lads hanging in groups round my way
But that’s cos a lot of Greeks and Albanians live in my area. Of course it’s all types doing it though
Where do you live Bennyville? I live just off Green lanes near the north circular
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The worst offenders over here are bunches of teenagers. They just seem to think the law does not apply to them.
The parents should be charged for not controlling their offspring.
Some of our restrictions are lifting from today and the country starts to reopen from May 18th.
Hope you are well Palmers. I recall you saying your mother was in the at risk age category?
Hope all is good there also.
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All well thanks Irish snd hope you are too.
Yeah my mum is ok thanks. She’s in her 70s and has underlying conditions. I’m popping over to hers this evening to stay for a few days.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 second ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
London is the perfect hotbed for the virus is well. So many different communities with their own set of rules and laws. I don’t live too far away from green lanes in north London, and it’s honestly like nothing has happened. People think as long as their safe within their own people or communities then nothing else matters. Also almost impossible to observe any social distancing, even for those who actually care to attempt it.
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There are no different sets of rules and laws.
I know what you’re implying, so just spit it out.
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What do you think I’m implying? What I said it completely true and I’ve seen it for myself. It’s the alright Jacks who are making this worse for everyone. Please tell me what I meant.
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Worst offenders round my way are the yummy mummies and their spawn.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don’t avoid my question, what was I implying? Go on, tell me.
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You were implying that ethnic communities are generally worse affected proportionally than the white population, which statistically worldwide is absolutely correct, from Norway, to the U.K. to the USA.
It’s either a socio-economic issue, or a cultural one. Either way, it’s important to understand which and what we do to protect and support these communities in the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The government is paying lip service to this.
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True. However, if it’s a cultural issue then it’s an understandably sensitive topic. We pride ourselves on being multicultural, so to then try to suggest that a culture is a contributing factor to the spread of disease within a community its risqué to say the least for any MP.
On the other hand, if it could be solved through enrichment then we need to understand how that can be achieved sensibly.
Regardless, the government is in a precarious position outside of the side issue of the impact on BAME communities, because their response hasn’t been perfect in my opinion, and people expect perfection from those chosen to govern us.
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Contributing to it?
Oh you mean by driving tubes and buses and being on the NHS frontline?
posted on 5/5/20
Regardless, the government is in a precarious position outside of the side issue of the impact on BAME communities, because their response hasn’t been perfect in my opinion, and people expect perfection from those chosen to govern us.
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Competence would suffice for most. Alas.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Regardless, the government is in a precarious position outside of the side issue of the impact on BAME communities, because their response hasn’t been perfect in my opinion, and people expect perfection from those chosen to govern us.
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Competence would suffice for most. Alas.
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posted on 5/5/20
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posted on 5/5/20
The Government handling of this has certainly been poor but to compare with other countries is difficult.
If you take into account population, land mass, density of population, and global connectivity, there is an argument that Italy, Spain and France are still coming out worse (only as of now that is).
If those countries are going to take the stance of 'well look at the UK' and their populations fall for it then they are very naive.
posted on 5/5/20
I’ve totally given up on the uk and politics. It doesn’t matter how bad they are, how many people they hurt, how much public services they cut or how much they lie to us, the tories always win elections. Even with a proven liar and coward as their leader.
The last election finished me off. I’ll never bother voting again. Zero point when murdoch can control millions thoughts.
posted on 5/5/20
comment by Smeg and the club levy destroyed (U6574)
posted 1 minute ago
I’ve totally given up on the uk and politics. It doesn’t matter how bad they are, how many people they hurt, how much public services they cut or how much they lie to us, the tories always win elections. Even with a proven liar and coward as their leader.
The last election finished me off. I’ll never bother voting again. Zero point when murdoch can control millions thoughts.
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Yep.
North Korea level propaganda these days.
posted on 5/5/20
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posted on 5/5/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
This country is massively over populated, there are way too many people per square metre living here, we were always going to be hard hit. That is the fault of previous governments, not the current one.
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I do love how the Tories have been in charge for 10 years now, and you still have people blaming the previous governments.
If they can't fix what you perceive to be a problem in 10 years, then maybe, just maybe, they aren't very competent at what they do.
posted on 5/5/20
I really don't understand the people on here who are trying to use population density and demographics to excuse the UK governments response. The government (and everyone) were well aware of the density, particularly in London, and the demographics. They were also pretty well informed from China, Italy, and Spain at how this virus works and spreads etc....and yet they still didn't lockdown early enough and still made all the mistakes that have been listed in this thread.....surely this is an even bigger reason for highlighting their incompetence. Or has the fact that London is a densely populated city and the UK have a older demographic just become known in the last 2 months????
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