comment by Magnum. No more Mr Nice Guy. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘Proposing segregation’ 🙄
He’s asking for black people to spend money in black owned businesses - white people are more than welcome to spend money there too. No segregation. That you would bring up apartheid - a system used to oppress black people says it all about you and your bizarre interpretation of how you see the world.
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Keeping black people out of white owned shops is segregation. No doubt about it.
Its a bigoted and racist message.
No interpretation. Just facts.
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In your opinion. Which is wrong. Facts.
99% will agree that racism is wrong and should stop.
But then you can clearly see a split in how to deal with it between liberals (the ones mostly protesting and rioting, who are mostly white) and non-liberals who edge towards more practical change.
We see this on numerous issues, like climate change, etc.
You seem to think the rioting is outnumbering the peaceful protests though. And how do you know the violence being spewed aren’t from right wingers trying to distort the meaning of the protest itself?
What’s this practical change?
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
And how do you know the violence being spewed aren’t from right wingers trying to distort the meaning of the protest itself?
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You don’t actually think that do you?
The violence is just stupid, childish opportunists and cowards. Throwing glass bottles at the police today, all covered up in masks....sheer cowardice
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
And how do you know the violence being spewed aren’t from right wingers trying to distort the meaning of the protest itself?
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You don’t actually think that do you?
The violence is just stupid, childish opportunists and cowards. Throwing glass bottles at the police today, all covered up in masks....sheer cowardice
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Why not? There’s multiple evidence of the protests in America being high jacked by far right and far left elements who are trying to destroy the true meaning of the protest for their own selfish gain. To blame it all on one side of the spectrum is incredibly lazy.
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
What’s this practical change?
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THIS is the key question. Protests are important, opinions are part of our freedom but what we need is solutions. This is my main criticism of modern society where we moan and moan about all that’s wrong and needs changing but with no ideas on what changes need to be implemented. Solutions Or proposed solutions need more media time.
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
And how do you know the violence being spewed aren’t from right wingers trying to distort the meaning of the protest itself?
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You don’t actually think that do you?
The violence is just stupid, childish opportunists and cowards. Throwing glass bottles at the police today, all covered up in masks....sheer cowardice
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Why not? There’s multiple evidence of the protests in America being high jacked by far right and far left elements who are trying to destroy the true meaning of the protest for their own selfish gain. To blame it all on one side of the spectrum is incredibly lazy.
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I know that as a concept has been done, of course it has but do you think that’s going on here?
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
You seem to think the rioting is outnumbering the peaceful protests though. And how do you know the violence being spewed aren’t from right wingers trying to distort the meaning of the protest itself?
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No, the rioting is from a minority. Mostly young, white liberals going by the videos.
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 41 seconds ago
Rob was raised in the UK from a fairly young age. His views regarding issues of race seem far more representative of someone from Britain than someone from Australia.
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didn't think you'd sign out and in to your second account to back yourself up
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Rob and I disagree on just about every subject imaginable.
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and yet your timings are so impeccable
I have thought this for a while and here I think I finally have enough to go on to assure my suspicions
Robb needs debates, if he doesn't get one he has "you" to start one until other real people show up and when it gets personal, he has "you" to suddenly appear with an intricate knowledge of his life to back him up
out of curiosity Robb...was Jinky your dad?
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Last line made me chuckle.
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
What’s this practical change?
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THIS is the key question. Protests are important, opinions are part of our freedom but what we need is solutions. This is my main criticism of modern society where we moan and moan about all that’s wrong and needs changing but with no ideas on what changes need to be implemented. Solutions Or proposed solutions need more media time.
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I think the issue is that sensible dialogue is difficult to attain. And so that’s why these measures inevitably get undertaken. It’s a common occurrence in history, because it seems to be the only way that any form of change can be made.
I’m conflicted, as I think there are more sensible and rational ways of these things being resolved, but then people aren’t sensible and rational and some people hold a power that silences that.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
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Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
I wonder back in the early part of the 20th century there were people out there decrying the riotous actions of the suffragettes. (Spoiler alert, there were)
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
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Yeah that didn’t answer the question. You’re trying to refute why one way won’t work, which is fine, and to an extent I agree, but then don’t claim the ‘non-liberls’ are trying for practical change when you have no examples of it. As that’s not trying for anything, but leaving the status quo.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 34 minutes ago
These protests are like the one good thing going on in the world right now, and you've got clowns trying to downplay/stop them.
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Whilst I support the movement, the timing is off. Also the looting, violence and defacing of war memorials detracts from the goal.
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
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Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
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Making the police more accountable would be a practical change.
The deprived neighbourhoods however, does increase that communities interaction with the police, which is part of the problem.
‘I live in a society,’ Malcolm X said, ‘which has more subtle methods to make the rest of the world think it’s cleaning up its house while the same things are happening to us in 1964 that happened in 1954, 1924 and 1894.’
Imagine the fact this was uttered over half a century ago, and his words ring true in our ears today. This is why there’s protesting. People have had enough of talking.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
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Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Making the police more accountable would be a practical change.
The deprived neighbourhoods however, does increase that communities interaction with the police, which is part of the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The onus is on the police to stop killing black people, not on the level of police interaction to stop. Even if a neighbourhood of 10,000 people were all criminals, the least they should expect is to not be killed by the police.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 34 minutes ago
These protests are like the one good thing going on in the world right now, and you've got clowns trying to downplay/stop them.
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Whilst I support the movement, the timing is off. Also the looting, violence and defacing of war memorials detracts from the goal.
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Unfortunately there’s nothing anyone can do about the timing. 100% of the blame has to go to the policeman who murdered George Floyd - anytime would be bad but during a pandemic opens a Pandora’s box.
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Making the police more accountable would be a practical change.
The deprived neighbourhoods however, does increase that communities interaction with the police, which is part of the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The onus is on the police to stop killing black people, not on the level of police interaction to stop. Even if a neighbourhood of 10,000 people were all criminals, the least they should expect is to not be killed by the police.
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should the onus being on having the police trained properly?
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
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Yeah that didn’t answer the question. You’re trying to refute why one way won’t work, which is fine, and to an extent I agree, but then don’t claim the ‘non-liberls’ are trying for practical change when you have no examples of it. As that’s not trying for anything, but leaving the status quo.
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Maybe some of them do want to keep the status quo.
We end up in the usual situation with two extreme groups getting all the attention, with the more balanced moderate voices drowned out.
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Making the police more accountable would be a practical change.
The deprived neighbourhoods however, does increase that communities interaction with the police, which is part of the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The onus is on the police to stop killing black people, not on the level of police interaction to stop. Even if a neighbourhood of 10,000 people were all criminals, the least they should expect is to not be killed by the police.
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should the onus being on having the police trained properly?
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To an extent yes, but saying they need to be trained properly can take some of the blame away from people like the cop who killed George Floyd. You can’t train the murderer out of some cops.
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
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Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
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Just playing devil's advocate here Robb, how do we know that the cop killed Floyd due to racism? How do we know that he wasn't just and evil tw@t. Or that he didn't have something personal against him?
Also, are there any stats that support that black people are more likely to die in police custody/during arrest?
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
‘I live in a society,’ Malcolm X said, ‘which has more subtle methods to make the rest of the world think it’s cleaning up its house while the same things are happening to us in 1964 that happened in 1954, 1924 and 1894.’
Imagine the fact this was uttered over half a century ago, and his words ring true in our ears today. This is why there’s protesting. People have had enough of talking.
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And what did MLK say?
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posted on 7/6/20
comment by Magnum. No more Mr Nice Guy. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘Proposing segregation’ 🙄
He’s asking for black people to spend money in black owned businesses - white people are more than welcome to spend money there too. No segregation. That you would bring up apartheid - a system used to oppress black people says it all about you and your bizarre interpretation of how you see the world.
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Keeping black people out of white owned shops is segregation. No doubt about it.
Its a bigoted and racist message.
No interpretation. Just facts.
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In your opinion. Which is wrong. Facts.
posted on 7/6/20
99% will agree that racism is wrong and should stop.
But then you can clearly see a split in how to deal with it between liberals (the ones mostly protesting and rioting, who are mostly white) and non-liberals who edge towards more practical change.
We see this on numerous issues, like climate change, etc.
posted on 7/6/20
You seem to think the rioting is outnumbering the peaceful protests though. And how do you know the violence being spewed aren’t from right wingers trying to distort the meaning of the protest itself?
posted on 7/6/20
What’s this practical change?
posted on 7/6/20
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
And how do you know the violence being spewed aren’t from right wingers trying to distort the meaning of the protest itself?
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You don’t actually think that do you?
The violence is just stupid, childish opportunists and cowards. Throwing glass bottles at the police today, all covered up in masks....sheer cowardice
posted on 7/6/20
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
And how do you know the violence being spewed aren’t from right wingers trying to distort the meaning of the protest itself?
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You don’t actually think that do you?
The violence is just stupid, childish opportunists and cowards. Throwing glass bottles at the police today, all covered up in masks....sheer cowardice
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Why not? There’s multiple evidence of the protests in America being high jacked by far right and far left elements who are trying to destroy the true meaning of the protest for their own selfish gain. To blame it all on one side of the spectrum is incredibly lazy.
posted on 7/6/20
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
What’s this practical change?
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THIS is the key question. Protests are important, opinions are part of our freedom but what we need is solutions. This is my main criticism of modern society where we moan and moan about all that’s wrong and needs changing but with no ideas on what changes need to be implemented. Solutions Or proposed solutions need more media time.
posted on 7/6/20
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
And how do you know the violence being spewed aren’t from right wingers trying to distort the meaning of the protest itself?
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You don’t actually think that do you?
The violence is just stupid, childish opportunists and cowards. Throwing glass bottles at the police today, all covered up in masks....sheer cowardice
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not? There’s multiple evidence of the protests in America being high jacked by far right and far left elements who are trying to destroy the true meaning of the protest for their own selfish gain. To blame it all on one side of the spectrum is incredibly lazy.
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I know that as a concept has been done, of course it has but do you think that’s going on here?
posted on 7/6/20
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
You seem to think the rioting is outnumbering the peaceful protests though. And how do you know the violence being spewed aren’t from right wingers trying to distort the meaning of the protest itself?
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No, the rioting is from a minority. Mostly young, white liberals going by the videos.
posted on 7/6/20
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 41 seconds ago
Rob was raised in the UK from a fairly young age. His views regarding issues of race seem far more representative of someone from Britain than someone from Australia.
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didn't think you'd sign out and in to your second account to back yourself up
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Rob and I disagree on just about every subject imaginable.
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and yet your timings are so impeccable
I have thought this for a while and here I think I finally have enough to go on to assure my suspicions
Robb needs debates, if he doesn't get one he has "you" to start one until other real people show up and when it gets personal, he has "you" to suddenly appear with an intricate knowledge of his life to back him up
out of curiosity Robb...was Jinky your dad?
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Last line made me chuckle.
posted on 7/6/20
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
posted on 7/6/20
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
What’s this practical change?
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THIS is the key question. Protests are important, opinions are part of our freedom but what we need is solutions. This is my main criticism of modern society where we moan and moan about all that’s wrong and needs changing but with no ideas on what changes need to be implemented. Solutions Or proposed solutions need more media time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the issue is that sensible dialogue is difficult to attain. And so that’s why these measures inevitably get undertaken. It’s a common occurrence in history, because it seems to be the only way that any form of change can be made.
I’m conflicted, as I think there are more sensible and rational ways of these things being resolved, but then people aren’t sensible and rational and some people hold a power that silences that.
posted on 7/6/20
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
posted on 7/6/20
I wonder back in the early part of the 20th century there were people out there decrying the riotous actions of the suffragettes. (Spoiler alert, there were)
posted on 7/6/20
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that didn’t answer the question. You’re trying to refute why one way won’t work, which is fine, and to an extent I agree, but then don’t claim the ‘non-liberls’ are trying for practical change when you have no examples of it. As that’s not trying for anything, but leaving the status quo.
posted on 8/6/20
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 34 minutes ago
These protests are like the one good thing going on in the world right now, and you've got clowns trying to downplay/stop them.
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Whilst I support the movement, the timing is off. Also the looting, violence and defacing of war memorials detracts from the goal.
posted on 8/6/20
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Making the police more accountable would be a practical change.
The deprived neighbourhoods however, does increase that communities interaction with the police, which is part of the problem.
posted on 8/6/20
‘I live in a society,’ Malcolm X said, ‘which has more subtle methods to make the rest of the world think it’s cleaning up its house while the same things are happening to us in 1964 that happened in 1954, 1924 and 1894.’
Imagine the fact this was uttered over half a century ago, and his words ring true in our ears today. This is why there’s protesting. People have had enough of talking.
posted on 8/6/20
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Making the police more accountable would be a practical change.
The deprived neighbourhoods however, does increase that communities interaction with the police, which is part of the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The onus is on the police to stop killing black people, not on the level of police interaction to stop. Even if a neighbourhood of 10,000 people were all criminals, the least they should expect is to not be killed by the police.
posted on 8/6/20
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 34 minutes ago
These protests are like the one good thing going on in the world right now, and you've got clowns trying to downplay/stop them.
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Whilst I support the movement, the timing is off. Also the looting, violence and defacing of war memorials detracts from the goal.
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Unfortunately there’s nothing anyone can do about the timing. 100% of the blame has to go to the policeman who murdered George Floyd - anytime would be bad but during a pandemic opens a Pandora’s box.
posted on 8/6/20
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Making the police more accountable would be a practical change.
The deprived neighbourhoods however, does increase that communities interaction with the police, which is part of the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The onus is on the police to stop killing black people, not on the level of police interaction to stop. Even if a neighbourhood of 10,000 people were all criminals, the least they should expect is to not be killed by the police.
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should the onus being on having the police trained properly?
posted on 8/6/20
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that didn’t answer the question. You’re trying to refute why one way won’t work, which is fine, and to an extent I agree, but then don’t claim the ‘non-liberls’ are trying for practical change when you have no examples of it. As that’s not trying for anything, but leaving the status quo.
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Maybe some of them do want to keep the status quo.
We end up in the usual situation with two extreme groups getting all the attention, with the more balanced moderate voices drowned out.
posted on 8/6/20
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Making the police more accountable would be a practical change.
The deprived neighbourhoods however, does increase that communities interaction with the police, which is part of the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The onus is on the police to stop killing black people, not on the level of police interaction to stop. Even if a neighbourhood of 10,000 people were all criminals, the least they should expect is to not be killed by the police.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
should the onus being on having the police trained properly?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To an extent yes, but saying they need to be trained properly can take some of the blame away from people like the cop who killed George Floyd. You can’t train the murderer out of some cops.
posted on 8/6/20
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
What’s this practical change?
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All this protesting will be in vain if black people continue to live in deprived areas with gang violence and so on.
The way I see it, until this changes, nothing changes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blaming it on gang violence and deprived neighbourhoods?
I could have sworn it was about racist policemen. And that is something that can change and hopefully these protests at least get some decent cops to make sure their racist colleagues don’t disgrace the badge anymore.
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Just playing devil's advocate here Robb, how do we know that the cop killed Floyd due to racism? How do we know that he wasn't just and evil tw@t. Or that he didn't have something personal against him?
Also, are there any stats that support that black people are more likely to die in police custody/during arrest?
posted on 8/6/20
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
‘I live in a society,’ Malcolm X said, ‘which has more subtle methods to make the rest of the world think it’s cleaning up its house while the same things are happening to us in 1964 that happened in 1954, 1924 and 1894.’
Imagine the fact this was uttered over half a century ago, and his words ring true in our ears today. This is why there’s protesting. People have had enough of talking.
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And what did MLK say?
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