comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
I know a 58 year old man who refers to United as 'm@nure' every time he mentions them.
I think people who do stuff like that probably voted for Brexit.
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That’s about the same age as BrummieBlue, and he did vote Brexit
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
the breaches of the spirit of the regulations have been self-evident, flagrant, unapologetic, repeated, and unrepentant.
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yeah, but other than that, what's your problem with this?
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I don’t have a problem with what happened today; Cas no doubt followed the rule book in accordance with their mandate, and will have arrived at a carefully-considered and accurate judgment.
The problem is the rule book, which isn’t fit for purpose.
The result of this particular affair reminds me of Epstein’s first trial and his subsequent punishment: 13 months of internment in a holiday camp with 12 hour day release 6 days-a-week, despite the fact it was plain to the prosecution that they were dealing with a very rare type of flagrant serial offender.
That’s due process, legal technicalities and burden of proof for you though
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 57 seconds ago
I know a 58 year old man who refers to United as 'm@nure' every time he mentions them.
I think people who do stuff like that probably voted for Brexit.
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Aye. The same people that know better than cas too 😜
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 21 seconds ago
I felt for the genuine MC fans. They just found out that everything they were sold was a dream. Now they cannot go and brag about the titles with other fans. Even if they win CL this year, in the mind there will always be something wrong about it.
I don't really care about if they get ban or not. In fact I'd be unhappy if my club get to CL in 5th spot. So yes, celebrate if you like. You broke the rules, spending more than you were allowed to.
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We’ve just found out literally the opposite though, why would we be feeling as though the verdict was upheld when it’s been overturned?!
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I understand the verdict. Doesn't mean you didn't do it. Actually you (MC fans) are the real victim of this scam
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It may well mean we didn’t do it, it means that more than it does the opposite.
We are the victim of it absolutely, the question then becomes of whom.
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 57 seconds ago
I know a 58 year old man who refers to United as 'm@nure' every time he mentions them.
I think people who do stuff like that probably voted for Brexit.
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Aye. The same people that know better than cas too 😜
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Nah.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 22 seconds ago
Scousers know exactly about time barred clauses when it comes to financial matters.
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Mancs are too busy sniffing wheelie bins to bother themselves with financial matters
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ah yes that well known term for Macs...bin dippers
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Because that’s what I said
Jim’s been on it early, sniff sniff
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https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/trevor-sinclair-liverpool-fc-man-city-twitter-bin-dippers-tweet-deleted-a9231926.html
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 22 seconds ago
Scousers know exactly about time barred clauses when it comes to financial matters.
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Mancs are too busy sniffing wheelie bins to bother themselves with financial matters
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ah yes that well known term for Macs...bin dippers
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Because that’s what I said
Jim’s been on it early, sniff sniff
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https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/trevor-sinclair-liverpool-fc-man-city-twitter-bin-dippers-tweet-deleted-a9231926.html
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Read it again Jim
Where did I mention ‘bindippers’ and Mancs?
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 seconds ago
I wonder why the UEFA found evidence to fine City for 2 years and the CAS found the evidence not conclusive enough? Does that mean the UEFA fined City frivolously?
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CAS uses the Law, UEFA does not.
UEFA got hold of stolen emails which showed exactly how City were sticking a middle finger up at FFP.
that evidence would be deemed inadmissible in a court as it was not obtained legally.
City also refused in every way to assist with UEFA's investigation.
bluntly, UEFA would have little to no evidence to present to CAS, City would have droves of doctored books and such to give to CAS.
outcome was always guaranteed given that UEFAs investigation was built on illegally obtained materials.
doesn't change the fact they cheated just makes it impossible to punish. hence my earlier point, just spend what you like and refuse to assist UEFA if they try audit you. if someone leaks your books or dodgy sponsorships deals and UEFA ban you go to CAS and they just dismiss that evidence.
simples.
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Evidence obtained through illegal means is not inadmissible. It is up to the court whether to allow it or not. Many courts have allowed illegal evidence because it was relevant to the case at hand.
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CAS are governed by Swiss Law
152 of the Swiss Civil Procedure Code court shall consider illegally obtained evidence only if there is an overriding interest in finding the truth. At the same time according to Art. 184 of Switzerland's Federal Code on Private International Law the arbitral tribunal shall itself conduct the taking of evidence.
so they will only consider UEFA dodgy evidence if they themselves conduct an investigation
CAS don't do that, so the evidence would be dismissed.
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So from your own quote "court shall consider illegally obtained evidence only if there is an overriding interest in finding the truth"
So it is up to the court on whether to allow the evidence, which is exactly what I said.
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clearly you stopped reading before the second half of that paragraph.
they would have to go and collect that same evidence themselves legally which given how it was obtained and no doubt destroyed from every server at the emptyhad would of been impossible.
but also bear in mind, CAS don't do investigations, they adjudicate and arbitrate so in essence at no point was any illegal evidence going to be considered by CAS
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No that second paragraph refers to the tribunal being responsible for the taking of the evidence. This refers to who is responsible for deciding what evidence is allowed in international disputes since different jurisdictions have different rules.
It doesn't mean that a court has to investigate and collect every piece of evidence first-hand as if they are also a police force in PI firm.
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 20 seconds ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
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Think people should just wait to read what they publish. Sadly most probably haven’t even read what they did today as minds were already made up
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 20 seconds ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
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Think people should just wait to read what they publish. Sadly most probably haven’t even read what they did today as minds were already made up
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ha ha, you were always going to be "cheats" if the ban remained, and "cheats and bribers" if it was overturned.
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
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There's always someone who becomes an expert in anything that winds up in the news
Congrats anyway bean for what its worth.
Personally I dint give a fook what happened and i suspect neither did quite a few others. It was just an excuse to wum etc.
I actually think you will win the CL this year and this result could be a big help towards giving the club that extra boost needed to get over the line.
comment by Paddy's Pub - Home of the original Kitten Mittons (U17162)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
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There's always someone who becomes an expert in anything that winds up in the news
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JA606 the home of the greatest experts on everything from financial irregularities to missing children.
I know a 58 year old man who refers to United as 'm@nure' every time he mentions them
+++
is he a West Brom fan?
Ja606 members are on the brink of developing the COVID vaccine as we speak
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 8 seconds ago
Congrats anyway bean for what its worth.
Personally I dint give a fook what happened and i suspect neither did quite a few others. It was just an excuse to wum etc.
I actually think you will win the CL this year and this result could be a big help towards giving the club that extra boost needed to get over the line.
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I’ll definitely be waiting to read the full report. We have a checkered history with uefa, a lot of blues don’t really buy into the competition as much as other fans, so personally I wasn’t massively ar5ed if we were banned. Massive hypocrite anyway as I’ve still spent money round Europe to watch us 😂
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 20 seconds ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
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Think people should just wait to read what they publish. Sadly most probably haven’t even read what they did today as minds were already made up
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And I think that is perfectly reasonable.
The courts will only tell us if there's evidence to prove guilt - it won't prove innocence.
If you believe City got to where did with entirely acceptable business practices and shrewd management then that is your prerogative.
I've never believed that.
Doesn't really matter though, as my view is FFP is unfair anyway.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Ja606 members are on the brink of developing the COVID vaccine as we speak
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They already have. Injecting disinfectant.
I'm not a fan of taking things that haven't happened as fact and no offence personally, Boris, but are you really telling me that if this wasn't City, you'd be defending the club here?
I doubt that!
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 20 seconds ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think people should just wait to read what they publish. Sadly most probably haven’t even read what they did today as minds were already made up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And I think that is perfectly reasonable.
The courts will only tell us if there's evidence to prove guilt - it won't prove innocence.
If you believe City got to where did with entirely acceptable business practices and shrewd management then that is your prerogative.
I've never believed that.
Doesn't really matter though, as my view is FFP is unfair anyway.
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Most clubs are hardly whiter than white anyway. I reckon the top clubs have plenty of dirty laundry and skeletons in the closet.
I mean what rules are PSG breaking regarding cash flows etc?
“If you believe City got to where did with entirely acceptable business practices and shrewd management then that is your prerogative.”
I don’t believe that. I think when there’s big money involved as there is in football then creative accounting probably goes on across the board at top level. So at what point is it acceptable? At the point the club each person happens to support it would seem!
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 20 seconds ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think people should just wait to read what they publish. Sadly most probably haven’t even read what they did today as minds were already made up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And I think that is perfectly reasonable.
The courts will only tell us if there's evidence to prove guilt - it won't prove innocence.
If you believe City got to where did with entirely acceptable business practices and shrewd management then that is your prerogative.
I've never believed that.
Doesn't really matter though, as my view is FFP is unfair anyway.
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Most clubs are hardly whiter than white anyway. I reckon the top clubs have plenty of dirty laundry and skeletons in the closet.
I mean what rules are PSG breaking regarding cash flows etc?
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we know psg are even bigger cheats
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
“If you believe City got to where did with entirely acceptable business practices and shrewd management then that is your prerogative.”
I don’t believe that. I think when there’s big money involved as there is in football then creative accounting probably goes on across the board at top level. So at what point is it acceptable? At the point the club each person happens to support it would seem!
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I don't disagree per se, but please don't include me in that!
gratedbean (U4885)
As has been said on here - I would say the same thing about the Monaco deal and also the Bebe transfer.
Sometimes you should use your instinct rather than trusting everything and everyone.
If something smells dodgy then it usually is.
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posted on 13/7/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
I know a 58 year old man who refers to United as 'm@nure' every time he mentions them.
I think people who do stuff like that probably voted for Brexit.
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That’s about the same age as BrummieBlue, and he did vote Brexit
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
the breaches of the spirit of the regulations have been self-evident, flagrant, unapologetic, repeated, and unrepentant.
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yeah, but other than that, what's your problem with this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t have a problem with what happened today; Cas no doubt followed the rule book in accordance with their mandate, and will have arrived at a carefully-considered and accurate judgment.
The problem is the rule book, which isn’t fit for purpose.
The result of this particular affair reminds me of Epstein’s first trial and his subsequent punishment: 13 months of internment in a holiday camp with 12 hour day release 6 days-a-week, despite the fact it was plain to the prosecution that they were dealing with a very rare type of flagrant serial offender.
That’s due process, legal technicalities and burden of proof for you though
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 57 seconds ago
I know a 58 year old man who refers to United as 'm@nure' every time he mentions them.
I think people who do stuff like that probably voted for Brexit.
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Aye. The same people that know better than cas too 😜
posted on 13/7/20
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 21 seconds ago
I felt for the genuine MC fans. They just found out that everything they were sold was a dream. Now they cannot go and brag about the titles with other fans. Even if they win CL this year, in the mind there will always be something wrong about it.
I don't really care about if they get ban or not. In fact I'd be unhappy if my club get to CL in 5th spot. So yes, celebrate if you like. You broke the rules, spending more than you were allowed to.
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We’ve just found out literally the opposite though, why would we be feeling as though the verdict was upheld when it’s been overturned?!
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I understand the verdict. Doesn't mean you didn't do it. Actually you (MC fans) are the real victim of this scam
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It may well mean we didn’t do it, it means that more than it does the opposite.
We are the victim of it absolutely, the question then becomes of whom.
posted on 13/7/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 57 seconds ago
I know a 58 year old man who refers to United as 'm@nure' every time he mentions them.
I think people who do stuff like that probably voted for Brexit.
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Aye. The same people that know better than cas too 😜
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Nah.
posted on 13/7/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 22 seconds ago
Scousers know exactly about time barred clauses when it comes to financial matters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mancs are too busy sniffing wheelie bins to bother themselves with financial matters
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ah yes that well known term for Macs...bin dippers
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Because that’s what I said
Jim’s been on it early, sniff sniff
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https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/trevor-sinclair-liverpool-fc-man-city-twitter-bin-dippers-tweet-deleted-a9231926.html
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 22 seconds ago
Scousers know exactly about time barred clauses when it comes to financial matters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mancs are too busy sniffing wheelie bins to bother themselves with financial matters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ah yes that well known term for Macs...bin dippers
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because that’s what I said
Jim’s been on it early, sniff sniff
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/trevor-sinclair-liverpool-fc-man-city-twitter-bin-dippers-tweet-deleted-a9231926.html
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Read it again Jim
Where did I mention ‘bindippers’ and Mancs?
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 seconds ago
I wonder why the UEFA found evidence to fine City for 2 years and the CAS found the evidence not conclusive enough? Does that mean the UEFA fined City frivolously?
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CAS uses the Law, UEFA does not.
UEFA got hold of stolen emails which showed exactly how City were sticking a middle finger up at FFP.
that evidence would be deemed inadmissible in a court as it was not obtained legally.
City also refused in every way to assist with UEFA's investigation.
bluntly, UEFA would have little to no evidence to present to CAS, City would have droves of doctored books and such to give to CAS.
outcome was always guaranteed given that UEFAs investigation was built on illegally obtained materials.
doesn't change the fact they cheated just makes it impossible to punish. hence my earlier point, just spend what you like and refuse to assist UEFA if they try audit you. if someone leaks your books or dodgy sponsorships deals and UEFA ban you go to CAS and they just dismiss that evidence.
simples.
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Evidence obtained through illegal means is not inadmissible. It is up to the court whether to allow it or not. Many courts have allowed illegal evidence because it was relevant to the case at hand.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
CAS are governed by Swiss Law
152 of the Swiss Civil Procedure Code court shall consider illegally obtained evidence only if there is an overriding interest in finding the truth. At the same time according to Art. 184 of Switzerland's Federal Code on Private International Law the arbitral tribunal shall itself conduct the taking of evidence.
so they will only consider UEFA dodgy evidence if they themselves conduct an investigation
CAS don't do that, so the evidence would be dismissed.
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So from your own quote "court shall consider illegally obtained evidence only if there is an overriding interest in finding the truth"
So it is up to the court on whether to allow the evidence, which is exactly what I said.
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clearly you stopped reading before the second half of that paragraph.
they would have to go and collect that same evidence themselves legally which given how it was obtained and no doubt destroyed from every server at the emptyhad would of been impossible.
but also bear in mind, CAS don't do investigations, they adjudicate and arbitrate so in essence at no point was any illegal evidence going to be considered by CAS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No that second paragraph refers to the tribunal being responsible for the taking of the evidence. This refers to who is responsible for deciding what evidence is allowed in international disputes since different jurisdictions have different rules.
It doesn't mean that a court has to investigate and collect every piece of evidence first-hand as if they are also a police force in PI firm.
posted on 13/7/20
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 20 seconds ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
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Think people should just wait to read what they publish. Sadly most probably haven’t even read what they did today as minds were already made up
posted on 13/7/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 20 seconds ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think people should just wait to read what they publish. Sadly most probably haven’t even read what they did today as minds were already made up
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ha ha, you were always going to be "cheats" if the ban remained, and "cheats and bribers" if it was overturned.
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's always someone who becomes an expert in anything that winds up in the news
posted on 13/7/20
Congrats anyway bean for what its worth.
Personally I dint give a fook what happened and i suspect neither did quite a few others. It was just an excuse to wum etc.
I actually think you will win the CL this year and this result could be a big help towards giving the club that extra boost needed to get over the line.
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Paddy's Pub - Home of the original Kitten Mittons (U17162)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's always someone who becomes an expert in anything that winds up in the news
----------------------------------------------------------------------
JA606 the home of the greatest experts on everything from financial irregularities to missing children.
posted on 13/7/20
I know a 58 year old man who refers to United as 'm@nure' every time he mentions them
+++
is he a West Brom fan?
posted on 13/7/20
Ja606 members are on the brink of developing the COVID vaccine as we speak
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 8 seconds ago
Congrats anyway bean for what its worth.
Personally I dint give a fook what happened and i suspect neither did quite a few others. It was just an excuse to wum etc.
I actually think you will win the CL this year and this result could be a big help towards giving the club that extra boost needed to get over the line.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ll definitely be waiting to read the full report. We have a checkered history with uefa, a lot of blues don’t really buy into the competition as much as other fans, so personally I wasn’t massively ar5ed if we were banned. Massive hypocrite anyway as I’ve still spent money round Europe to watch us 😂
posted on 13/7/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 20 seconds ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think people should just wait to read what they publish. Sadly most probably haven’t even read what they did today as minds were already made up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And I think that is perfectly reasonable.
The courts will only tell us if there's evidence to prove guilt - it won't prove innocence.
If you believe City got to where did with entirely acceptable business practices and shrewd management then that is your prerogative.
I've never believed that.
Doesn't really matter though, as my view is FFP is unfair anyway.
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Ja606 members are on the brink of developing the COVID vaccine as we speak
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They already have. Injecting disinfectant.
posted on 13/7/20
I'm not a fan of taking things that haven't happened as fact and no offence personally, Boris, but are you really telling me that if this wasn't City, you'd be defending the club here?
I doubt that!
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 20 seconds ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think people should just wait to read what they publish. Sadly most probably haven’t even read what they did today as minds were already made up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And I think that is perfectly reasonable.
The courts will only tell us if there's evidence to prove guilt - it won't prove innocence.
If you believe City got to where did with entirely acceptable business practices and shrewd management then that is your prerogative.
I've never believed that.
Doesn't really matter though, as my view is FFP is unfair anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most clubs are hardly whiter than white anyway. I reckon the top clubs have plenty of dirty laundry and skeletons in the closet.
I mean what rules are PSG breaking regarding cash flows etc?
posted on 13/7/20
“If you believe City got to where did with entirely acceptable business practices and shrewd management then that is your prerogative.”
I don’t believe that. I think when there’s big money involved as there is in football then creative accounting probably goes on across the board at top level. So at what point is it acceptable? At the point the club each person happens to support it would seem!
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 20 seconds ago
This thread is like a classic episode of Rumpole of the Bailey at times.
Legal eagles and experts everywhere
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think people should just wait to read what they publish. Sadly most probably haven’t even read what they did today as minds were already made up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And I think that is perfectly reasonable.
The courts will only tell us if there's evidence to prove guilt - it won't prove innocence.
If you believe City got to where did with entirely acceptable business practices and shrewd management then that is your prerogative.
I've never believed that.
Doesn't really matter though, as my view is FFP is unfair anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most clubs are hardly whiter than white anyway. I reckon the top clubs have plenty of dirty laundry and skeletons in the closet.
I mean what rules are PSG breaking regarding cash flows etc?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
we know psg are even bigger cheats
posted on 13/7/20
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
“If you believe City got to where did with entirely acceptable business practices and shrewd management then that is your prerogative.”
I don’t believe that. I think when there’s big money involved as there is in football then creative accounting probably goes on across the board at top level. So at what point is it acceptable? At the point the club each person happens to support it would seem!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't disagree per se, but please don't include me in that!
posted on 13/7/20
gratedbean (U4885)
As has been said on here - I would say the same thing about the Monaco deal and also the Bebe transfer.
Sometimes you should use your instinct rather than trusting everything and everyone.
If something smells dodgy then it usually is.
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