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posted on 9/9/22

comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 16 minutes ago
I doubt the monarchy will survive in its current guise for much longer. A lot of people genuinely care about the Kardashians than the royal family which brings me to the point of the OP. The narrative structure which exists in the UK (not so much here in Oz as no one really cares that much about the Queen dying even though she was very popular with the older generation as her visits here were blockbuster) is designed to almost gaslight you into believing you have to feel a certain way or else you’re a narrative traitor.

Most people back in the UK I spoke to yesterday all pretty much said the same thing when i asked why they were sad about the queen dying and it all along the lines of ‘because she represented tradition’.

I truly believe the UK, possibly more than any other country I’ve been to is obsessed with the past and finds it very difficult to look forwards and the queen was a warm bath of nostalgia for many. But I’m certain that if Kim Kardashian died yesterday many many more of the younger generation of brits would be disconsolate.
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I'm sad the barmy army can't sing 'God Save Your Gracious Queen' down under anymore. Still, God Save Your Gracious King has a bit of a ring to it as well.

posted on 9/9/22

But I’m certain that if Kim Kardashian died yesterday many many more of the younger generation of brits would be disconsolate.
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Yes, they probably would be.

posted on 9/9/22

I did tell some gullible people I worked with yesterday that Queensland is now to be called Kingsland. Oh how I chortled.

posted on 9/9/22

comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 3 minutes ago
I did tell some gullible people I worked with yesterday that Queensland is now to be called Kingsland. Oh how I chortled.
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It's Gordon and Halyley McKing that I feel for having to change all of their passports and paperwork etc

posted on 9/9/22

comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Eagle Fang (U9028)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
I can say all this as someone who doesn't believe that inherited monarchy is the best way to run a democratic society.

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The monarchy don't run this democratic society!
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Monarchy has no place in a fully democratic society.
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It does have if people want it to have. It isn't your decision
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It’s not fully democratic if the monarchy exists.
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Of course it is, if the people want it's democracy in action
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It’s not. A fully democratic system doesn’t have a monarchy.
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Explain why. It's no good just saying it

posted on 9/9/22

Because a hereditary monarchy is by definition undemocratic. The people don’t have a choice in who the head of state is.

posted on 9/9/22

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Eagle Fang (U9028)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
I can say all this as someone who doesn't believe that inherited monarchy is the best way to run a democratic society.

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The monarchy don't run this democratic society!
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Monarchy has no place in a fully democratic society.
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It does have if people want it to have. It isn't your decision
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It’s not fully democratic if the monarchy exists.
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Of course it is, if the people want it's democracy in action
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It’s not. A fully democratic system doesn’t have a monarchy.
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Explain why. It's no good just saying it
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I just think it's an anachronism. No modern, forward thinking meritocratic society pays homage to a family who are born with the right to be given millions for waving from cars.

posted on 9/9/22

comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Eagle Fang (U9028)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
I can say all this as someone who doesn't believe that inherited monarchy is the best way to run a democratic society.

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The monarchy don't run this democratic society!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Monarchy has no place in a fully democratic society.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does have if people want it to have. It isn't your decision
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not fully democratic if the monarchy exists.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is, if the people want it's democracy in action
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not. A fully democratic system doesn’t have a monarchy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why. It's no good just saying it
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I just think it's an anachronism. No modern, forward thinking meritocratic society pays homage to a family who are born with the right to be given millions for waving from cars.
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True, but nothing about democracy, ie people wanting a privileged Queen paid millions for waving from a car.
I wonder how she enjoyed her retirement.

posted on 9/9/22

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man (U1270)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Eagle Fang (U9028)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
I can say all this as someone who doesn't believe that inherited monarchy is the best way to run a democratic society.

----------------------------------

The monarchy don't run this democratic society!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Monarchy has no place in a fully democratic society.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does have if people want it to have. It isn't your decision
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not fully democratic if the monarchy exists.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is, if the people want it's democracy in action
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not. A fully democratic system doesn’t have a monarchy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Explain why. It's no good just saying it
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I just think it's an anachronism. No modern, forward thinking meritocratic society pays homage to a family who are born with the right to be given millions for waving from cars.
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True, but nothing about democracy, ie people wanting a privileged Queen paid millions for waving from a car.
I wonder how she enjoyed her retirement.
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Fair point. I suspect if they were asked to vote on it a huge number of people would bafflingly opt to continue to pay money in taxation from their hard earned wages to keep the car wavers. Serfs.

posted on 9/9/22

But the populace don’t have the ability to choose who that monarch is. That’s why monarchies are undemocratic. This shouldn’t need explaining.

posted on 9/9/22

'the people' didn't have a say on who is the current PM

posted on 9/9/22

Indeed. Because we don’t really live in a proper democracy. Parliament also has a house that isn’t democratically elected. And the first past the post system isn’t very democratic either.

posted on 9/9/22

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
'the people' didn't have a say on who is the current PM
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Welcome to being Scottish

posted on 9/9/22

comment by Zach Robinson (U1734)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
'the people' didn't have a say on who is the current PM
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Welcome to being Scottish
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Don't vote Nationalist then.

posted on 9/9/22

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Zach Robinson (U1734)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
'the people' didn't have a say on who is the current PM
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Welcome to being Scottish
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Don't vote Nationalist then.
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I don't quite understand your point

posted on 9/9/22

Some of the comments in this article have a hint of jealousy in them, because they were not the ones to be born into royalty, not the ones to be born and live in the spotlight.

Is it not slightly similar to being the child of a massive celebrity?
A child that hasn't worked their way up, they were born into wealth and given opportunities that normal folk would never get in most circumstances.
See will Smith's kid Jaden for example, horrendous actor and 'rapper' but still rakes in the money probably, only reason he's there is because of his parents.

posted on 9/9/22

comment by Zach Robinson (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Zach Robinson (U1734)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
'the people' didn't have a say on who is the current PM
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Welcome to being Scottish
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Don't vote Nationalist then.
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I don't quite understand your point
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oh dear

posted on 9/9/22

comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 1 minute ago
Some of the comments in this article have a hint of jealousy in them, because they were not the ones to be born into royalty, not the ones to be born and live in the spotlight.

Is it not slightly similar to being the child of a massive celebrity?
A child that hasn't worked their way up, they were born into wealth and given opportunities that normal folk would never get in most circumstances.
See will Smith's kid Jaden for example, horrendous actor and 'rapper' but still rakes in the money probably, only reason he's there is because of his parents.
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If Jaden Smith died (or anyone from that family) then the Premier League would probably put on even more matches to celebrate

posted on 9/9/22

Vote for a non Tory party who isn't the SNP that has candidates standing throughout the country who has a chance of winning. Like labour?

posted on 9/9/22

comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 1 minute ago
Some of the comments in this article have a hint of jealousy in them, because they were not the ones to be born into royalty, not the ones to be born and live in the spotlight.

Is it not slightly similar to being the child of a massive celebrity?
A child that hasn't worked their way up, they were born into wealth and given opportunities that normal folk would never get in most circumstances.
See will Smith's kid Jaden for example, horrendous actor and 'rapper' but still rakes in the money probably, only reason he's there is because of his parents.
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If Jaden Smith died (or anyone from that family) then the Premier League would probably put on even more matches to celebrate
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posted on 9/9/22

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
Vote for a non Tory party who isn't the SNP that has candidates standing throughout the country who has a chance of winning. Like labour?
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SNP wins all over Scotland. It is VERY different to England you see. It's almost as if that's the point

posted on 10/9/22

comment by Zach Robinson (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
Vote for a non Tory party who isn't the SNP that has candidates standing throughout the country who has a chance of winning. Like labour?
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SNP wins all over Scotland. It is VERY different to England you see. It's almost as if that's the point
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then stop blaming the rest of the UK for subjecting you to a Tory GVT which then makes you want to leave the UK and admit that you just want to leave the UK.

posted on 10/9/22

Is it not slightly similar to being the child of a massive celebrity?
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No.

posted on 10/9/22

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Zach Robinson (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
Vote for a non Tory party who isn't the SNP that has candidates standing throughout the country who has a chance of winning. Like labour?
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SNP wins all over Scotland. It is VERY different to England you see. It's almost as if that's the point
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then stop blaming the rest of the UK for subjecting you to a Tory GVT which then makes you want to leave the UK and admit that you just want to leave the UK.
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Still really don't understand your point.

posted on 10/9/22

Brooklyn Beckham is not like Prince William. For one thing I don't have to pay for Brooklyn's upkeep. Brooklyn is where he is because his Dad was bloody good at football. A proper Beckham comparison would be if Brooklyn had taken over playing right wing for United after Becks left.

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