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Israel waaay out of line here

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comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 10/10/23

comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hamas won the elections in 2007 and since then lost the latest election which was done 15 years ago. Machini you are the liar here.
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What happened to Fatah members in Gaza?
Has there been any other election since Hamas came to power?
You stated earlier that Hamas was not the government but then agreed that they won an election. So which one is it?

Check the death toll before and after Hamas came to power in Gaza - if you keep blaming Israel, then you're just like Hamas who want the destruction of the Jews. In that case, expect them to fight for their survival and don't come crying on here about the mean Jews.

posted on 10/10/23

Hamas spokesperson: we have killed no civilians

🙄

posted on 10/10/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 48 seconds ago
it's frightening seeing all these celebrities and elected officials giving it "we stand by israel and their right to defend themselves"

then you see dead babies.

Hamas actions were an act of terror and should never be condoned, but why is a blind eye being turned toward terror aimed at Palestinians, for decades now?
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Dropping modern bombs is more civilized I guess.
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Must be ‘western values’
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As opposed to what? Hiding behind civilians? Oh no, it’s the deliberate murder of civilians at a music concert and parading of their naked corpse and spitting on them whilst chanting Allahu Akbar. Yeah those values are much better.
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The videos on Twitter are only those of Israel’s killing innocent civilians and urinating on them. Your blindness and deafness is either deliberate or shows your ignorance
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You’re a liar.
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https://x.com/newnews_eu/status/1711424816224387215?s=46&t=ruB1IFCGZhQIKsiMTok1YQ


https://x.com/seyedalaie/status/1711398132834017367?s=46&t=ruB1IFCGZhQIKsiMTok1YQ


The evidence is all there. Like I said if you want to play deaf dumb and blind and you don’t have humanity in you, that’s on you

posted on 10/10/23

comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 48 seconds ago
it's frightening seeing all these celebrities and elected officials giving it "we stand by israel and their right to defend themselves"

then you see dead babies.

Hamas actions were an act of terror and should never be condoned, but why is a blind eye being turned toward terror aimed at Palestinians, for decades now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dropping modern bombs is more civilized I guess.
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Must be ‘western values’
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As opposed to what? Hiding behind civilians? Oh no, it’s the deliberate murder of civilians at a music concert and parading of their naked corpse and spitting on them whilst chanting Allahu Akbar. Yeah those values are much better.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The videos on Twitter are only those of Israel’s killing innocent civilians and urinating on them. Your blindness and deafness is either deliberate or shows your ignorance
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You’re a liar.
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https://x.com/newnews_eu/status/1711424816224387215?s=46&t=ruB1IFCGZhQIKsiMTok1YQ


https://x.com/seyedalaie/status/1711398132834017367?s=46&t=ruB1IFCGZhQIKsiMTok1YQ


The evidence is all there. Like I said if you want to play deaf dumb and blind and you don’t have humanity in you, that’s on you
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You said only you dumbass.

posted on 10/10/23

https://twitter.com/AshleaSimonBF/status/1710573511100489815

Warning: graphic and nasty content


But that’s for you A14 whoever you are. Despicable people on both sides of this debate, not just the Israelis. So you are the liar and/or deaf and ignorant. Not I.

posted on 10/10/23

Hamas actions were an act of terror and should never be condoned, but why is a blind eye being turned toward terror aimed at Palestinians, for decades now?
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Anyone gonna try and answer this?

Satty give it a shot.

posted on 10/10/23

Satnav

I’ve not denied that Hamas have done and do do horrible things.

But for a democracy to do that to innocent civilians and have been doing that for 50 years - got to call it out.

Hypocrite

posted on 10/10/23

comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 12 minutes ago
Wrong cannot right a wrong. Rights to life, homes and identity belong to everybody. Let's keep our hearts open for peace to have a place at the table. Remember the innocents who are suffering. True peace can only be built on a foundation of justice which should be equally distributed by the international community. And we all have a part to play
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Also Satnav,

Read what I wrote above. ALL are deserving. All have rights.

Humanity includes all innocent civilians to be treated with respect and dignity - regardless of country, religion and colour.

You should try being human and remove the hatred and disease from your heart.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 1 minute ago
Satnav

I’ve not denied that Hamas have done and do do horrible things.

But for a democracy to do that to innocent civilians and have been doing that for 50 years - got to call it out.

Hypocrite
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I’m not a hypocrite. You’re assuming that I am.

Try reading the entire thread. Then coke back to me and apologise for being an assumptive gimp

posted on 10/10/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
it's frightening seeing all these celebrities and elected officials giving it "we stand by israel and their right to defend themselves"

then you see dead babies.

Hamas actions were an act of terror and should never be condoned, but why is a blind eye being turned toward terror aimed at Palestinians, for decades now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah I wish the right message was put out more. Israel needs to stop expanding Hamas needs to go and both parties get to the negotiating table
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Hamas went in, got civilians, murdered, and desecrated their corpses, that is wrong, those people were innocent.

as are most of the palestinians now paying for those actions, but what i will say is that this was just another reason for Israel to do it, they have been vile to them for decades, and it's ignored by the international community.

I saw someone saying yesterday on twitter, "you're catholic, they hate you" (not directed at me, though i am catholic).

that's not my issue, i don't know them, neither did they and they just make assumptions. Regardless, i would never condone the slaughter of innocent people.

funny how its always innocent ones who pay most for this.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hamas actions were an act of terror and should never be condoned, but why is a blind eye being turned toward terror aimed at Palestinians, for decades now?
====
Anyone gonna try and answer this?

Satty give it a shot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the woes of the Palestinians has been pretty damn well documented across the world.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/sympathies-for-the-israelis-palestinian-conflict

posted on 10/10/23

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hamas won the elections in 2007 and since then lost the latest election which was done 15 years ago. Machini you are the liar here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happened to Fatah members in Gaza?
Has there been any other election since Hamas came to power?
You stated earlier that Hamas was not the government but then agreed that they won an election. So which one is it?

Check the death toll before and after Hamas came to power in Gaza - if you keep blaming Israel, then you're just like Hamas who want the destruction of the Jews. In that case, expect them to fight for their survival and don't come crying on here about the mean Jews.
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Hamas would never be in power if it wasn't for Israel. As I've mentioned before, every occupational oppression and acute denial of basic human rights in history has led to violent resistance and often unscrupulous entities coming into power. Why should this be any different?

Israel creates and maintains the conditions necessary for organisations like Hamas and Fatah to exist and thrive through their oppression of Palestinians.

This isn't rocket sconce tbh.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
it's frightening seeing all these celebrities and elected officials giving it "we stand by israel and their right to defend themselves"

then you see dead babies.

Hamas actions were an act of terror and should never be condoned, but why is a blind eye being turned toward terror aimed at Palestinians, for decades now?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah I wish the right message was put out more. Israel needs to stop expanding Hamas needs to go and both parties get to the negotiating table
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hamas went in, got civilians, murdered, and desecrated their corpses, that is wrong, those people were innocent.

as are most of the palestinians now paying for those actions, but what i will say is that this was just another reason for Israel to do it, they have been vile to them for decades, and it's ignored by the international community.

I saw someone saying yesterday on twitter, "you're catholic, they hate you" (not directed at me, though i am catholic).

that's not my issue, i don't know them, neither did they and they just make assumptions. Regardless, i would never condone the slaughter of innocent people.

funny how its always innocent ones who pay most for this.
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Indeed. Some might say that last weekend is the excuse Israel has been waiting for to absolutely flatten Gaza. They have warned the population to leave but they will flatten it.

posted on 10/10/23

Flattening Gaza is what they always wanted. How convenient.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Flattening Gaza is what they always wanted. How convenient.
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Do you think something is going on here?

posted on 10/10/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hamas actions were an act of terror and should never be condoned, but why is a blind eye being turned toward terror aimed at Palestinians, for decades now?
====
Anyone gonna try and answer this?

Satty give it a shot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the woes of the Palestinians has been pretty damn well documented across the world.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/sympathies-for-the-israelis-palestinian-conflict
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Documented

That's gonna save a lot of lives.

Support for Israel continues for decades while they slaughter Palestinians and brand their resistance as terrorism.

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hamas won the elections in 2007 and since then lost the latest election which was done 15 years ago. Machini you are the liar here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happened to Fatah members in Gaza?
Has there been any other election since Hamas came to power?
You stated earlier that Hamas was not the government but then agreed that they won an election. So which one is it?

Check the death toll before and after Hamas came to power in Gaza - if you keep blaming Israel, then you're just like Hamas who want the destruction of the Jews. In that case, expect them to fight for their survival and don't come crying on here about the mean Jews.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas would never be in power if it wasn't for Israel. As I've mentioned before, every occupational oppression and acute denial of basic human rights in history has led to violent resistance and often unscrupulous entities coming into power. Why should this be any different?

Israel creates and maintains the conditions necessary for organisations like Hamas and Fatah to exist and thrive through their oppression of Palestinians.

This isn't rocket sconce tbh.
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Well Hamas are infants and therefore, should not be held accountable for their atrocities.
Meanwhile, in the West Bank, Israel is not dropping bombs.
Care to explain why? Afterall, both communities are Palestinians after all.
Also, why hold only Israel accountable. What about the Egyptian blockade which is far worse?

posted on 10/10/23

True peace can only be built on a foundation of justice which should be equally distributed by the international community.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hamas actions were an act of terror and should never be condoned, but why is a blind eye being turned toward terror aimed at Palestinians, for decades now?
====
Anyone gonna try and answer this?

Satty give it a shot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the woes of the Palestinians has been pretty damn well documented across the world.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/sympathies-for-the-israelis-palestinian-conflict
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Documented

That's gonna save a lot of lives.

Support for Israel continues for decades while they slaughter Palestinians and brand their resistance as terrorism.

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Acts like we have seen this weekend are terrorism.

You really seem to struggle with the notion that people disagree on this issue.

People could quite easily say the reverse of practically everything you say; that’s why there’s an ongoing conflict.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
True peace can only be built on a foundation of justice which should be equally distributed by the international community.


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Like when the UN tired it after WWII and the Arab nations refused it?

posted on 10/10/23

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hamas won the elections in 2007 and since then lost the latest election which was done 15 years ago. Machini you are the liar here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happened to Fatah members in Gaza?
Has there been any other election since Hamas came to power?
You stated earlier that Hamas was not the government but then agreed that they won an election. So which one is it?

Check the death toll before and after Hamas came to power in Gaza - if you keep blaming Israel, then you're just like Hamas who want the destruction of the Jews. In that case, expect them to fight for their survival and don't come crying on here about the mean Jews.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas would never be in power if it wasn't for Israel. As I've mentioned before, every occupational oppression and acute denial of basic human rights in history has led to violent resistance and often unscrupulous entities coming into power. Why should this be any different?

Israel creates and maintains the conditions necessary for organisations like Hamas and Fatah to exist and thrive through their oppression of Palestinians.

This isn't rocket sconce tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well Hamas are infants and therefore, should not be held accountable for their atrocities.
Meanwhile, in the West Bank, Israel is not dropping bombs.
Care to explain why? Afterall, both communities are Palestinians after all.
Also, why hold only Israel accountable. What about the Egyptian blockade which is far worse?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why would Israel drop bombs on their own settlers and on land they looking steal.

posted on 10/10/23

If someone came to the UK and did to us what Israel is doing to Palestinians, we would incessantly bomb and murder their asses to kingdom come, we would turn into "terrorists" and would laugh at anyone who tried to tell us we were wrong.

As Churchill said, this island will never surrender. We fight on the hills and beaches.

But the Palestinians aren't us, so all these things they do is terrorism. Makes sense.

posted on 10/10/23

Meanwhile, in the West Bank, Israel is not dropping bombs.
Care to explain why?
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Because they are reasonably satisfied with the status of their occupation of the West Bank.

Why do you ask?

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 18 seconds ago
If someone came to the UK and did to us what Israel is doing to Palestinians, we would incessantly bomb and murder their asses to kingdom come, we would turn into "terrorists" and would laugh at anyone who tried to tell us we were wrong.

As Churchill said, this island will never surrender. We fight on the hills and beaches.

But the Palestinians aren't us, so all these things they do is terrorism. Makes sense.
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Not all. But gunning down music concerts, parading dead bodies, home intrusion executions is not fighting on the hills and beaches. It’s terrorism.

posted on 10/10/23

What about the Egyptian blockade which is far worse?
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Egypt better maintain that blockade if they know what's good for them.

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