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Israel waaay out of line here

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comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 50 seconds ago
True peace can only be built on a foundation of justice which should be equally distributed by the international community.


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But justice can never be achieved when one side sees it as their religious duty to rid the region of Jews.

The same reason why Jews were wiped out from all Arab countries. This is clearly stated in their religious texts. Something they don't like to talk about openly.

Meanwhile, around 20% of Israeli citizens today are Arabs.

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Meanwhile, in the West Bank, Israel is not dropping bombs.
Care to explain why?
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Because they are reasonably satisfied with the status of their occupation of the West Bank.

Why do you ask?
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Israel is not dropping bombs because Fatah is not carrying out atrocities against Israeli civilians.

FYI, they are not satisfied with their status.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 18 seconds ago
If someone came to the UK and did to us what Israel is doing to Palestinians, we would incessantly bomb and murder their asses to kingdom come, we would turn into "terrorists" and would laugh at anyone who tried to tell us we were wrong.

As Churchill said, this island will never surrender. We fight on the hills and beaches.

But the Palestinians aren't us, so all these things they do is terrorism. Makes sense.
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Not all. But gunning down music concerts, parading dead bodies, home intrusion executions is not fighting on the hills and beaches. It’s terrorism.
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So if the UK was occupied and you were like a Palestinian in your own homeland you'd mount a resistance which takes care to avoid the occupiers music concerts and homes etc while the occupiers are bombing schools and hospitals?

Stop bullsheeting Satty. It's moments like this I'm sure you're biased. And what you call "terrorism" is a tool used to fight for liberation. Even Mandela was a "terrorist". Don't violent occupiers deserve to be terrorised? Would you prefer they were given a cup of tea instead? What logic are you applying here

posted on 10/10/23

saw a video on twitter last night of a father hugging his dead baby.

how do people support this, how can it be seen as proportionate or the cost of business?

posted on 10/10/23

Israel's longest running paper blames its Prime Minister for violence by 'establishing a government of annexation & dispossession..while embracing a foreign policy that openly ignored the existence & rights of Palestinians'

Such views censored in UK media

posted on 10/10/23

Few on here showing their ignorance - brainwashed by the likes of bbc and sky news who clearly have their own agendas and paymasters.

This year alone Israel terrorists killed over 800 Palestinians of which 390 of them were children, just cuz the mainstream media in the West don't talk about it does not mean it does not happen. Educate yourselves. It's deeply rancid and racist to dehumanise Palestinians

posted on 10/10/23

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Meanwhile, in the West Bank, Israel is not dropping bombs.
Care to explain why?
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Because they are reasonably satisfied with the status of their occupation of the West Bank.

Why do you ask?
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Israel is not dropping bombs because Fatah is not carrying out atrocities against Israeli civilians.

FYI, they are not satisfied with their status.
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I didn't say they were satisfied. I said they were reasonably satisfied which obviously means in comparison to Gaza.

Fatah not dropping bombs means there is less resistance to Israeli occupation which is what Israel wants and the Israelis want to let sleeping dogs lie. Why provoke when you are getting what you want? More and more Palestinians displaced all the time in the West Bank.

Before this attack, Israel wasn't dropping bombs on Gaza either. But this attack has now happened. You keep asking what about the West Bank but what I will tell you is that if things don't change then it's only a matter of time before it kicks off there too.

So really you're not saying anything tbh.

posted on 10/10/23

UK, USA etc all giving it "we stand by Israel" while the mad b@stirts calling them animals, talking about wiping them out, and cutting off all utilities.

f... do you stand there and support that with a clear conscience?

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 18 seconds ago
If someone came to the UK and did to us what Israel is doing to Palestinians, we would incessantly bomb and murder their asses to kingdom come, we would turn into "terrorists" and would laugh at anyone who tried to tell us we were wrong.

As Churchill said, this island will never surrender. We fight on the hills and beaches.

But the Palestinians aren't us, so all these things they do is terrorism. Makes sense.
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Not all. But gunning down music concerts, parading dead bodies, home intrusion executions is not fighting on the hills and beaches. It’s terrorism.
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So if the UK was occupied and you were like a Palestinian in your own homeland you'd mount a resistance which takes care to avoid the occupiers music concerts and homes etc while the occupiers are bombing schools and hospitals?

Stop bullsheeting Satty. It's moments like this I'm sure you're biased. And what you call "terrorism" is a tool used to fight for liberation. Even Mandela was a "terrorist". Don't violent occupiers deserve to be terrorised? Would you prefer they were given a cup of tea instead? What logic are you applying here

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Ok to stick to your analogy.

If someone invaded the UK and I was living in Wales under brutal conditions whereby we are effectively at war. I would not cross the border into England and kill a load of unarmed young people at a music event, no. Absolutely not.

You think it’s bs because you clearly lack the moral fortitude.

I would probably go on what would be a futile mission against a military target.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 2 minutes ago
Israel's longest running paper blames its Prime Minister for violence by 'establishing a government of annexation & dispossession..while embracing a foreign policy that openly ignored the existence & rights of Palestinians'

Such views censored in UK media
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Whereas this is utterly factual, it goes in one ear and out the other for some people.

posted on 10/10/23

The same reason why Jews were wiped out from all Arab countries. This is clearly stated in their religious texts. Something they don't like to talk about openly.
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Explain this please

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 10/10/23

comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 42 seconds ago
Few on here showing their ignorance - brainwashed by the likes of bbc and sky news who clearly have their own agendas and paymasters.

This year alone Israel terrorists killed over 800 Palestinians of which 390 of them were children, just cuz the mainstream media in the West don't talk about it does not mean it does not happen. Educate yourselves. It's deeply rancid and racist to dehumanise Palestinians
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Prior to this latest conflict, can you post the link which shows where Israel killed those children?

posted on 10/10/23

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 20 seconds ago
UK, USA etc all giving it "we stand by Israel" while the mad b@stirts calling them animals, talking about wiping them out, and cutting off all utilities.

f... do you stand there and support that with a clear conscience?
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Not only that but Israel's decision to cut off water to Gaza affects 610,000 people and will lead to severe drinking water shortages - all supported by western governments. Is this what ‘western and Christian values’ look like?? Is this democracy? Is this leadership

posted on 10/10/23

comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 20 seconds ago
UK, USA etc all giving it "we stand by Israel" while the mad b@stirts calling them animals, talking about wiping them out, and cutting off all utilities.

f... do you stand there and support that with a clear conscience?
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Not only that but Israel's decision to cut off water to Gaza affects 610,000 people and will lead to severe drinking water shortages - all supported by western governments. Is this what ‘western and Christian values’ look like?? Is this democracy? Is this leadership
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Western and Christian values? Do you know what you sound like?

posted on 10/10/23

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 42 seconds ago
Few on here showing their ignorance - brainwashed by the likes of bbc and sky news who clearly have their own agendas and paymasters.

This year alone Israel terrorists killed over 800 Palestinians of which 390 of them were children, just cuz the mainstream media in the West don't talk about it does not mean it does not happen. Educate yourselves. It's deeply rancid and racist to dehumanise Palestinians
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Prior to this latest conflict, can you post the link which shows where Israel killed those children?
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/6/palestinians-mourn-two-year-old-toddler-killed-by-israeli-forces


comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
The same reason why Jews were wiped out from all Arab countries. This is clearly stated in their religious texts. Something they don't like to talk about openly.
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Explain this please
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There were hundreds of thousand of Jews living in many Arab countries prior to 1948.
Today, only a few are left in Iran - which is not an Arab country. All other Arabian countries have purged the Jews out from their midst.

With regards to the religious text, see the quote from the Quran below:

"Judgment Day will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews will hide behind the rocks and the trees, but the rocks and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him — except for the gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews.”

posted on 10/10/23

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 8 minutes ago
UK, USA etc all giving it "we stand by Israel" while the mad b@stirts calling them animals, talking about wiping them out, and cutting off all utilities.

f... do you stand there and support that with a clear conscience?
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I nearly vomited listening to Sunak last night.

Why not say ‘We stand with the victims of terror, regardless of whether the perpetrators are radical extremists or backed by states with powerful allies’.

posted on 10/10/23

If someone invaded the UK and I was living in Wales under brutal conditions whereby we are effectively at war. I would not cross the border into England and kill a load of unarmed young people at a music event, no. Absolutely not.
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You just created your own hypothetical scenario with a ready answer so as to avoid actually answering the query.

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 10/10/23

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 42 seconds ago
Few on here showing their ignorance - brainwashed by the likes of bbc and sky news who clearly have their own agendas and paymasters.

This year alone Israel terrorists killed over 800 Palestinians of which 390 of them were children, just cuz the mainstream media in the West don't talk about it does not mean it does not happen. Educate yourselves. It's deeply rancid and racist to dehumanise Palestinians
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Prior to this latest conflict, can you post the link which shows where Israel killed those children?
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/6/palestinians-mourn-two-year-old-toddler-killed-by-israeli-forces



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The link you posted stated that 27 children (which is still too much by the way) have been killed as at June this year. But your post stated 390.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
The same reason why Jews were wiped out from all Arab countries. This is clearly stated in their religious texts. Something they don't like to talk about openly.
====
Explain this please
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There were hundreds of thousand of Jews living in many Arab countries prior to 1948.
Today, only a few are left in Iran - which is not an Arab country. All other Arabian countries have purged the Jews out from their midst.

With regards to the religious text, see the quote from the Quran below:

"Judgment Day will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews will hide behind the rocks and the trees, but the rocks and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him — except for the gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews.”
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Make things up again. That’s not the Quran. If you think it is provide the Surah and ayah number. Again, showing your ignorance. It’s idiots like you that can’t get facts right so worthless having a discussion.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 39 seconds ago
If someone invaded the UK and I was living in Wales under brutal conditions whereby we are effectively at war. I would not cross the border into England and kill a load of unarmed young people at a music event, no. Absolutely not.
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You just created your own hypothetical scenario with a ready answer so as to avoid actually answering the query.
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No it’s a more accurate hypothetical and I did answer the question. But here’s the difference, no matter what happens to me or my family, I won’t deliberately murder civilians like we saw this last weekend.

Perhaps that’s where you and I differ?

posted on 10/10/23

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
The same reason why Jews were wiped out from all Arab countries. This is clearly stated in their religious texts. Something they don't like to talk about openly.
====
Explain this please
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There were hundreds of thousand of Jews living in many Arab countries prior to 1948.
Today, only a few are left in Iran - which is not an Arab country. All other Arabian countries have purged the Jews out from their midst.

With regards to the religious text, see the quote from the Quran below:

"Judgment Day will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews will hide behind the rocks and the trees, but the rocks and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him — except for the gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews.”
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You see this is bullsheet. Read this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world

"When presenting the history, those who view the Jewish exodus as analogous to the 1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight generally emphasize the push factors and consider those who left as refugees, while those who do not, emphasize the pull factors and consider them willing immigrants."

Clearly they left Arab countries for a mix of reasons. You can't just say they were purged from Arab countries. Holy crap!!

posted on 10/10/23

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پاکستان زِنده باد (U2805)
posted 42 seconds ago
Few on here showing their ignorance - brainwashed by the likes of bbc and sky news who clearly have their own agendas and paymasters.

This year alone Israel terrorists killed over 800 Palestinians of which 390 of them were children, just cuz the mainstream media in the West don't talk about it does not mean it does not happen. Educate yourselves. It's deeply rancid and racist to dehumanise Palestinians
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Prior to this latest conflict, can you post the link which shows where Israel killed those children?
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/6/palestinians-mourn-two-year-old-toddler-killed-by-israeli-forces



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The link you posted stated that 27 children (which is still too much by the way) have been killed as at June this year. But your post stated 390.
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i didn't state anything, i just provided an article showing child victims.

one is one too many imo.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 39 seconds ago
If someone invaded the UK and I was living in Wales under brutal conditions whereby we are effectively at war. I would not cross the border into England and kill a load of unarmed young people at a music event, no. Absolutely not.
=====
You just created your own hypothetical scenario with a ready answer so as to avoid actually answering the query.
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No it’s a more accurate hypothetical and I did answer the question. But here’s the difference, no matter what happens to me or my family, I won’t deliberately murder civilians like we saw this last weekend.

Perhaps that’s where you and I differ?
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But you would murder people you thought were enemies, civilians or not. If the Germans had taken over UK and brought their families and livelihoods here, would you care if the victims of your resistance were soldiers or civilians.

I'll leave this now as you'll keep going round in circles when we all know what the deal would be, especially for someone like you who loves the UK and British culture so much.

posted on 10/10/23

comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
The same reason why Jews were wiped out from all Arab countries. This is clearly stated in their religious texts. Something they don't like to talk about openly.
====
Explain this please
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There were hundreds of thousand of Jews living in many Arab countries prior to 1948.
Today, only a few are left in Iran - which is not an Arab country. All other Arabian countries have purged the Jews out from their midst.

With regards to the religious text, see the quote from the Quran below:

"Judgment Day will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews will hide behind the rocks and the trees, but the rocks and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him — except for the gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews.”
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The creation of Israel led to it. Iraq for instance, reports by historians say that Zionist groups carried out the bombing. Israel denies this is the case, but they had been caught doing something like this in the Lavon affair (Israel publicly denied any involvement in the incident until 2005, when the surviving agents were awarded certificates of appreciation by Israeli President Moshe Katsav).

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