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posted on 21/1/24

comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 10 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Glenn Maxwell. Legend. Hero. Icon. (U22716)
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comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
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What difference does it make who I blame?

People are cants. Israel was put there to stop the other cantish countries taking over, which has given you freedom and prosperity. You have no idea what to do with it, other than whine a lot.

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The real threat to freedom is stupidity. By that I mean people like you.
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Far easier to blame random people on the internet than to fack off to a Country which shares the same values as you eh. Funny how people clamour to get into the West then complain about, or get born here and spend their life moaning instead of leaving.
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So trying to stop tens of thousands of children being murdered is ‘moaning’?


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While conveniently ignoring all the suffering in your own Country.
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Ignoring? We're working hard to stop the likes of you and others of your ilk from completely ruining the country with your backwardness and stupidity. Fack you talking about?

posted on 21/1/24

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are ... (U1282)
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comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are ... (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 48 minutes ago
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Israel did that. They chose it. Otherwise you'll have to blame Israel for 7thnof October.

And we know how both you you wouldn't want to do that
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What difference does it make who I blame?

People are cants. Israel was put there to stop the other cantish countries taking over, which has given you freedom and prosperity. You have no idea what to do with it, other than whine a lot.

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The real threat to freedom is stupidity. By that I mean people like you.
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We shouldn't be using words like freedom when discussing arab conflict. Just about all the most suppressed nations on the planet are muslim ffs.
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Palestine probably the most suppressed
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Quite likely. Start off with the nonsensical muslim laws and then throw in Israel and yeah, it is a miserable existence.
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In Palestine the basic law states that Islam is the official religion but also calls for respect and sanctity for other divine religions (such as Judaism and Christianity).


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So does the Israeli constitution 👍

posted on 21/1/24

posted on 21/1/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 11 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are ... (U1282)
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comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are ... (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 48 minutes ago
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Israel did that. They chose it. Otherwise you'll have to blame Israel for 7thnof October.

And we know how both you you wouldn't want to do that
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What difference does it make who I blame?

People are cants. Israel was put there to stop the other cantish countries taking over, which has given you freedom and prosperity. You have no idea what to do with it, other than whine a lot.

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The real threat to freedom is stupidity. By that I mean people like you.
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We shouldn't be using words like freedom when discussing arab conflict. Just about all the most suppressed nations on the planet are muslim ffs.
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Palestine probably the most suppressed
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Quite likely. Start off with the nonsensical muslim laws and then throw in Israel and yeah, it is a miserable existence.
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In Palestine the basic law states that Islam is the official religion but also calls for respect and sanctity for other divine religions (such as Judaism and Christianity).


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So does the Israeli constitution 👍
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Yet Israel passed a recent set of laws that make Israel identify uniquely as Jewish (ethnic) state. Have laws that limit rights of the Arab population (we don't need to mention the lack of rights of the occupied here) and recently armed settlers have been attacking and trying to take over the Christian Armenian quarter.

Let's also not forget that the founder of the Likud party was the leader to the terrorist group Irgun and became their nations leader. Someone who's group make Hamas look like moderates.

posted on 21/1/24

https://youtu.be/Jsm5AUE0UDs?si=KZskNC4x1ltKuVwm

A good watch.

posted on 21/1/24

Manusince52 may want to watch this:
https://youtu.be/L1PKlV1JMBU?si=XbimeCFT65_rwJyO

posted on 21/1/24

And if you think Israel isn't carrying out Genocide, here are some questions for you to answer:

https://youtu.be/wuGPGCZTums?si=zeMW5d8oYqEK52G7

posted on 21/1/24

https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/117538-000-A/arte-reportage/

posted on 21/1/24

For the final time I think Israel should have stopped it's attacks long since.
I also think the path to peace is kindness from Israel, agreeing to a Palestinian state, returning the Golan Heights. Helping Palestine by building houses, hospitals, a modern infrastructure, and kindness on a personal level also. I've posted this twice before this

posted on 21/1/24

Don't waste your time 52

West bad, Israel bad, Muslim good

posted on 21/1/24

comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 41 minutes ago
Don't waste your time 52

West bad, Israel bad, Muslim good
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You can stay ignorant like Cini here or learn a few things. The choice is yours.

posted on 21/1/24

comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 41 minutes ago
Don't waste your time 52

West bad, Israel bad, Muslim good
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You can stay ignorant like Cini here or learn a few things. The choice is yours.
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You too can learn things Currently, unless you're infallible of course. Had you read my previous posts the same as today's?
Have you read the link I posted?

posted on 21/1/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago
For the final time I think Israel should have stopped it's attacks long since.
I also think the path to peace is kindness from Israel, agreeing to a Palestinian state, returning the Golan Heights. Helping Palestine by building houses, hospitals, a modern infrastructure, and kindness on a personal level also. I've posted this twice before this
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It will take a monumental shift and it will take the likes of US, UK and EU not giving Israel a free pass.

If they really wanted it, they could have helped long before what has happened on and since Oct 7th took place.

The question is do they though?

From what we see, they don't and don't care about the loss of life of Palestinians.

One just has to see the response to Russia, not being able to compete in Olympics or in tennis under their own flag, etc. Israel would not be treated the same. The double standards applied is apparent that it's hard to deny.

posted on 21/1/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 41 minutes ago
Don't waste your time 52

West bad, Israel bad, Muslim good
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You can stay ignorant like Cini here or learn a few things. The choice is yours.
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You too can learn things Currently, unless you're infallible of course. Had you read my previous posts the same as today's?
Have you read the link I posted?
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I'm always willing to learn. I've read up a lot on this issue way before Oct 7th.

I'm not sure which link you posted. I haven't followed the whole convo on this thread.

posted on 21/1/24

comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 41 minutes ago
Don't waste your time 52

West bad, Israel bad, Muslim good
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You can stay ignorant like Cini here or learn a few things. The choice is yours.
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You too can learn things Currently, unless you're infallible of course. Had you read my previous posts the same as today's?
Have you read the link I posted?
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I'm always willing to learn. I've read up a lot on this issue way before Oct 7th.

I'm not sure which link you posted. I haven't followed the whole convo on this thread.
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About six posts above this, by Arte, it's excellent imo

posted on 21/1/24

comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 41 minutes ago
Don't waste your time 52

West bad, Israel bad, Muslim good
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You can stay ignorant like Cini here or learn a few things. The choice is yours.
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Nothing ignorant about me, you have q built in hatred of the west. You spout nonsense after you read it online, i have visited most of these countries, including Palestine and Israel among many many other muslim nations.

posted on 21/1/24

And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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Making things up and calling them facts doesn’t make them facts. This is why everyone is laughing at you.

posted on 21/1/24

comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 41 minutes ago
Don't waste your time 52

West bad, Israel bad, Muslim good
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You can stay ignorant like Cini here or learn a few things. The choice is yours.
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Nothing ignorant about me, you have q built in hatred of the west. You spout nonsense after you read it online, i have visited most of these countries, including Palestine and Israel among many many other muslim nations.
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Built in hatred of the west?
As opposed to your built hatred of Palestinians?
Answer me this. How long do the horrific events of WW2 give Israel cover for any and all crimes against humanity?
And again why do Palestinians have to pay for European crimes?

posted on 21/1/24

Otters noses...wrens livers...wolf nipple chips, - badgers spleens...get em while they're hot - they're lovely

posted on 21/1/24

comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 4 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago
For the final time I think Israel should have stopped it's attacks long since.
I also think the path to peace is kindness from Israel, agreeing to a Palestinian state, returning the Golan Heights. Helping Palestine by building houses, hospitals, a modern infrastructure, and kindness on a personal level also. I've posted this twice before this
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It will take a monumental shift and it will take the likes of US, UK and EU not giving Israel a free pass.

If they really wanted it, they could have helped long before what has happened on and since Oct 7th took place.

The question is do they though?

From what we see, they don't and don't care about the loss of life of Palestinians.

One just has to see the response to Russia, not being able to compete in Olympics or in tennis under their own flag, etc. Israel would not be treated the same. The double standards applied is apparent that it's hard to deny.
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Russia attacked Ukraine.
Hamas attacked Israel.

posted on 21/1/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 4 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago
For the final time I think Israel should have stopped it's attacks long since.
I also think the path to peace is kindness from Israel, agreeing to a Palestinian state, returning the Golan Heights. Helping Palestine by building houses, hospitals, a modern infrastructure, and kindness on a personal level also. I've posted this twice before this
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will take a monumental shift and it will take the likes of US, UK and EU not giving Israel a free pass.

If they really wanted it, they could have helped long before what has happened on and since Oct 7th took place.

The question is do they though?

From what we see, they don't and don't care about the loss of life of Palestinians.

One just has to see the response to Russia, not being able to compete in Olympics or in tennis under their own flag, etc. Israel would not be treated the same. The double standards applied is apparent that it's hard to deny.
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Russia attacked Ukraine.
Hamas attacked Israel.
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Or Hamas broke out of the concentration camp they've been confined to by Israel.

posted on 21/1/24

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 4 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago
For the final time I think Israel should have stopped it's attacks long since.
I also think the path to peace is kindness from Israel, agreeing to a Palestinian state, returning the Golan Heights. Helping Palestine by building houses, hospitals, a modern infrastructure, and kindness on a personal level also. I've posted this twice before this
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will take a monumental shift and it will take the likes of US, UK and EU not giving Israel a free pass.

If they really wanted it, they could have helped long before what has happened on and since Oct 7th took place.

The question is do they though?

From what we see, they don't and don't care about the loss of life of Palestinians.

One just has to see the response to Russia, not being able to compete in Olympics or in tennis under their own flag, etc. Israel would not be treated the same. The double standards applied is apparent that it's hard to deny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Russia attacked Ukraine.
Hamas attacked Israel.
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Or Hamas broke out of the concentration camp they've been confined to by Israel.
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And killed 1200 people, paraded women naked, raped, and took hostages. Reprisals followed, quelle surprise. But Israël would have been canny not to retaliate, and in any event should have stopped after the first few days.

posted on 21/1/24

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 41 minutes ago
Don't waste your time 52

West bad, Israel bad, Muslim good
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You can stay ignorant like Cini here or learn a few things. The choice is yours.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nothing ignorant about me, you have q built in hatred of the west. You spout nonsense after you read it online, i have visited most of these countries, including Palestine and Israel among many many other muslim nations.
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Built in hatred of the west?
As opposed to your built hatred of Palestinians?
Answer me this. How long do the horrific events of WW2 give Israel cover for any and all crimes against humanity?
And again why do Palestinians have to pay for European crimes?

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The irony of bringing up how long Israel can use the war as an excuse when you continually use the actions in the late 40s and 50s as the reason for terrorism acts on Israel.

Fact here is that until both sides put to bed what has gone before this doesn't end. It is the here and now that matters, not who got what land 70 years ago. A terrorist attack killing 1000+ people in one swoop sets this whole debacle back another 20 years, of that there is no doubt. The new generation of Israelis and Palestinians are now scarred from this latest mess. Rinse and repeat.

posted on 21/1/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 hours, 11 minutes ago
For the final time I think Israel should have stopped it's attacks long since.
I also think the path to peace is kindness from Israel, agreeing to a Palestinian state, returning the Golan Heights. Helping Palestine by building houses, hospitals, a modern infrastructure, and kindness on a personal level also. I've posted this twice before this
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What you see as Israel's justifiable "responses" are always disproportionate, whatever made you think this time would be different?


So let me ask you a question ... what is it about years and years and years of arbitrary detentions, killings, support of militias that also perpetrate kidnappings, torture and rape, land grabs, destruction of property, blockade of goods and all kinds of human rights abuses that have merited countless resolutions of condemnation from the United Nations General Assembly ... what is it about all of these things that merit neither your outrage nor a justifiable "response" on behalf of the Palestinians?

posted on 21/1/24

comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone! LAJM! (U6426)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 hours, 11 minutes ago
For the final time I think Israel should have stopped it's attacks long since.
I also think the path to peace is kindness from Israel, agreeing to a Palestinian state, returning the Golan Heights. Helping Palestine by building houses, hospitals, a modern infrastructure, and kindness on a personal level also. I've posted this twice before this
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What you see as Israel's justifiable "responses" are always disproportionate, whatever made you think this time would be different?


So let me ask you a question ... what is it about years and years and years of arbitrary detentions, killings, support of militias that also perpetrate kidnappings, torture and rape, land grabs, destruction of property, blockade of goods and all kinds of human rights abuses that have merited countless resolutions of condemnation from the United Nations General Assembly ... what is it about all of these things that merit neither your outrage nor a justifiable "response" on behalf of the Palestinians?


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I don't agree.
The reason Israel exists is because of the holocaust. Nothing has equalled that. All religions had a country except for the Jews, so one was made in their ancient homeland. A small country surrounded by enemies who want the extermination of the Jews and for the cessation of Israel. Attacks began immediately.
Hence Israel armed itself and bought weapons.
Mistakes on both sides followed. Israel should have been far kinder, and the Arabs accepted Israel, and all problems fixed by negotiations, and an acceptance of no force by either side.
The holocaust gets, I don't know, brushed over. But six million, more than the population of Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham combine. Nearly every Jews in the world had a story to tell.

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