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posted on 24/1/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
“I have no intention of going back to Germany invading Poland so personally I feel Germany was just defending itself against the Allies”
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Hampered by the terrorist organisation known as 'le resistance' or something.

posted on 24/1/24

The first line I used is because the discussion was about now. I have written previously about the formation of Israel
Regarding myself, I grew up in in a Jewish neighbourhood and worked for a Jewish family.
My saying I have no bias against Arabs is impossible to prove. I can say that we have friends from Casablanca who visit us and vice versa, we also have friends from Amgeria and Syria. I know this is a laughable defence but is the best I have.
Regarding the current conflict, I think a response to the Hamas attack was to be expected.
But I do think the continued killing is indefensible and in my view should have finished soon after it started.
I've also given my view several times as to what Israel should have done a long time ago. It will be harder now but should be started now.
But it should also be remembered that Israel is surrounded by enemies, some who have a stated objective of the destruction of Israel.

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone!LAJM!(U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I really don't get how anyone who's old enough to have seen successive phases of this ongoing tragedy unfurl can still argue that the Israeli government is just exercising the country's right to self-defence.

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See my post on page 1. Are you antisemitic by the way?
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*checks post on page 1*

“I have no intention of going back to the formation of Israel. So it began with the Hamas attack on a holiday event”


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It was the asking if he was antisemitic bit that made me laugh.

posted on 24/1/24

He didn’t deny it!

Fair play really.

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone!LAJM!(U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I really don't get how anyone who's old enough to have seen successive phases of this ongoing tragedy unfurl can still argue that the Israeli government is just exercising the country's right to self-defence.

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See my post on page 1. Are you antisemitic by the way?
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*checks post on page 1*

“I have no intention of going back to the formation of Israel. So it began with the Hamas attack on a holiday event”


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Reminds me of that Simpsons meme where smothers is covering his eyes in fear while surrounded by half naked dancing ladies

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 24/1/24

FFS *smithers

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 2 days, 4 hours ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
The Jews haven't been the majority faith in Palestine for at least 1,500 years.
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The jews havent been the majority faith anywhere thats the point isnt it? they were exiled and persecuted ever since with no land/country to call their own despite being the first religion of its kind? Israel is the only Jewish state and look what that took to achieve and how long it took and the shocking events that had to happen for it to be so?

I have sympathy for both sides , i think its been handled poorly by all involved too. And ive said before its the innocent in it all that are suffering and have suffered from it all.


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Why can’t some country in Europe take them in then? It wasn’t the Arabs that killed 6 million of them.
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Well no, the arabs were too busy trading 20 million slaves for the previous century

posted on 24/1/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago

Regarding the current conflict, I think a response to the Hamas attack was to be expected.
But I do think the continued killing is indefensible and in my view should have finished soon after it started.
I've also given my view several times as to what Israel should have done a long time ago. It will be harder now but should be started now.
But it should also be remembered that Israel is surrounded by enemies, some who have a stated objective of the destruction of Israel.
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Again, related to your justifying the response to the Hamas killings, faced with a 500% increase in unlawful Israeli killings of their people, what right to self-defence did the Palestinians have?

Would you consider the Hamas attacks justifiable if they'd 'only' killed 300 Israelis, for example?

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone!LAJM!(U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I really don't get how anyone who's old enough to have seen successive phases of this ongoing tragedy unfurl can still argue that the Israeli government is just exercising the country's right to self-defence.

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See my post on page 1. Are you antisemitic by the way?
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*checks post on page 1*

“I have no intention of going back to the formation of Israel. So it began with the Hamas attack on a holiday event”


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Reminds me of that Simpsons meme where smothers is covering his eyes in fear while surrounded by half naked dancing ladies
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Netanyahu: “Excellent.”

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone!LAJM!(U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I really don't get how anyone who's old enough to have seen successive phases of this ongoing tragedy unfurl can still argue that the Israeli government is just exercising the country's right to self-defence.

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See my post on page 1. Are you antisemitic by the way?
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posted on 24/1/24

comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone! LAJM! (U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago

Regarding the current conflict, I think a response to the Hamas attack was to be expected.
But I do think the continued killing is indefensible and in my view should have finished soon after it started.
I've also given my view several times as to what Israel should have done a long time ago. It will be harder now but should be started now.
But it should also be remembered that Israel is surrounded by enemies, some who have a stated objective of the destruction of Israel.
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Again, related to your justifying the response to the Hamas killings, faced with a 500% increase in unlawful Israeli killings of their people, what right to self-defence did the Palestinians have?

Would you consider the Hamas attacks justifiable if they'd 'only' killed 300 Israelis, for example?
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I don't think Hamas attacks are justifiable if they only killed three, if the three were civilians and were raped as an example. And I don't think Israel is justified in the same scenario.
Can I ask you, do you think Israel was justified doing in response to the Hamas attack.

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 2 days, 4 hours ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
The Jews haven't been the majority faith in Palestine for at least 1,500 years.
_____________
The jews havent been the majority faith anywhere thats the point isnt it? they were exiled and persecuted ever since with no land/country to call their own despite being the first religion of its kind? Israel is the only Jewish state and look what that took to achieve and how long it took and the shocking events that had to happen for it to be so?

I have sympathy for both sides , i think its been handled poorly by all involved too. And ive said before its the innocent in it all that are suffering and have suffered from it all.


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Why can’t some country in Europe take them in then? It wasn’t the Arabs that killed 6 million of them.
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Well no, the arabs were too busy trading 20 million slaves for the previous century
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Well no the Arabs were actually fighting to free those enslaved during WW2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Regiment

posted on 24/1/24

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 2 days, 4 hours ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
The Jews haven't been the majority faith in Palestine for at least 1,500 years.
_____________
The jews havent been the majority faith anywhere thats the point isnt it? they were exiled and persecuted ever since with no land/country to call their own despite being the first religion of its kind? Israel is the only Jewish state and look what that took to achieve and how long it took and the shocking events that had to happen for it to be so?

I have sympathy for both sides , i think its been handled poorly by all involved too. And ive said before its the innocent in it all that are suffering and have suffered from it all.


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Why can’t some country in Europe take them in then? It wasn’t the Arabs that killed 6 million of them.
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Well no, the arabs were too busy trading 20 million slaves for the previous century
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Well no the Arabs were actually fighting to free those enslaved during WW2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Regiment
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You're link doesn't really say that though. Interesting that the majority were Jewish

posted on 24/1/24

This article gives my view much better than I can myself.

https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/israel-and-palestine-where-should-history-begin-and-should-it-matter/#:~:text=From%20a%20purely%20historical%20perspective,for%20more%20than%20a%20millennium.

posted on 24/1/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 2 days, 4 hours ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
The Jews haven't been the majority faith in Palestine for at least 1,500 years.
_____________
The jews havent been the majority faith anywhere thats the point isnt it? they were exiled and persecuted ever since with no land/country to call their own despite being the first religion of its kind? Israel is the only Jewish state and look what that took to achieve and how long it took and the shocking events that had to happen for it to be so?

I have sympathy for both sides , i think its been handled poorly by all involved too. And ive said before its the innocent in it all that are suffering and have suffered from it all.


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Why can’t some country in Europe take them in then? It wasn’t the Arabs that killed 6 million of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Well no, the arabs were too busy trading 20 million slaves for the previous century
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well no the Arabs were actually fighting to free those enslaved during WW2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Regiment
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You're link doesn't really say that though. Interesting that the majority were Jewish
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"The Palestine Regiment consisted of Jews and Arabs, conscripted in Mandatory Palestine, until its reformation in 1944."

posted on 24/1/24

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 2 days, 4 hours ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
The Jews haven't been the majority faith in Palestine for at least 1,500 years.
_____________
The jews havent been the majority faith anywhere thats the point isnt it? they were exiled and persecuted ever since with no land/country to call their own despite being the first religion of its kind? Israel is the only Jewish state and look what that took to achieve and how long it took and the shocking events that had to happen for it to be so?

I have sympathy for both sides , i think its been handled poorly by all involved too. And ive said before its the innocent in it all that are suffering and have suffered from it all.


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Why can’t some country in Europe take them in then? It wasn’t the Arabs that killed 6 million of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Well no, the arabs were too busy trading 20 million slaves for the previous century
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well no the Arabs were actually fighting to free those enslaved during WW2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Regiment
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're link doesn't really say that though. Interesting that the majority were Jewish
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"The Palestine Regiment consisted of Jews and Arabs, conscripted in Mandatory Palestine, until its reformation in 1944."
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Interesting in as I didn't know. Not interesting as a challenge to anyone.

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone!LAJM!(U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I really don't get how anyone who's old enough to have seen successive phases of this ongoing tragedy unfurl can still argue that the Israeli government is just exercising the country's right to self-defence.

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See my post on page 1. Are you antisemitic by the way?
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Lmfao this guy is legitimately special

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone!LAJM!(U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I really don't get how anyone who's old enough to have seen successive phases of this ongoing tragedy unfurl can still argue that the Israeli government is just exercising the country's right to self-defence.

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See my post on page 1. Are you antisemitic by the way?
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Lmfao this guy is legitimately special
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The antisemitic part was a bit tongue in cheek

Plus I didn't see any reaction to me being called a
' Arab hating Tory piece of shiitt' At least the first two parts are wrong.

posted on 24/1/24

By the way Vladimikel you will be pleased to know you're not special at all.

posted on 24/1/24

Plus I didn't see any reaction to me being called a
' Arab hating Tory piece of shiitt'


Probably because they agree with it you Tory hating Islamophobe cuuuunt

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cus... (U6374)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
“I have no intention of going back to Germany invading Poland so personally I feel Germany was just defending itself against the Allies”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7W7q7pWygU

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 15 minutes ago
Plus I didn't see any reaction to me being called a
' Arab hating Tory piece of shiitt'


Probably because they agree with it you Tory hating Islamophobe cuuuunt
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Always nice to have a proper debate with someone who thinks abuse is a winning strategy

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 18 minutes ago
Plus I didn't see any reaction to me being called a
' Arab hating Tory piece of shiitt'


Probably because they agree with it you Tory hating Islamophobe cuuuunt
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He isn’t, though.

posted on 24/1/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 18 minutes ago
Plus I didn't see any reaction to me being called a
' Arab hating Tory piece of shiitt'


Probably because they agree with it you Tory hating Islamophobe cuuuunt
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He isn’t, though.
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posted on 25/1/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone!LAJM!(U6426)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by manusince52
I don't think Hamas attacks are justifiable if they only killed three, if the three were civilians and were raped as an example. And I don't think Israel is justified in the same scenario.
Can I ask you, do you think Israel was justified doing in response to the Hamas attack.
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My stated position is this:



posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Just to get everyone to nail their colours to the mast on this, could the people participating in this thread please state their position (agree or disagree) on the following two statements:


Hamas is and has been guilty of crimes against humanity, since well before the October 7th attacks.

Israel is and has been guilty of crimes against humanity, since well before the October 7th attacks and on an even bigger scale.

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What I think makes it worse in Israel's case is that it is a internationally recognised state with a seat at the United Nations that purports to uphold the rule of law, yet for years it has regularly and knowingly murdered civilians of a land which they occupied illegally and on which they are executing an ongoing colonial project (and also providing cover for the colonialist militias).

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