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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
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All of it.
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And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
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Not an absolute fact because you haven't accounted for the Palestinians that Israel would have killed or maimed regardless of the attack, imprisoned indefinitely without trial and never released which is like death as you're never seen again, displaced from their homes in favour of illegal Israeli settlements and left destitute which is close to dying. You have also not accounted for Palestinians killed, sometimes by lynching, by Israeli settlers and their little militia groups. You have further failed to account for those that die due to poor health services and hygiene in what is the most densely populated region of the world, people packed in like sardines. And those that die from weaponisation of essential services like water and electricity.
And finally, those that die form anal problems because Israel won't give them a permit to build a latrine.
So yeah saan, not an absolute fact.
That's just off the top of my head though. All that would have happened anyway without the October 7th Hamas attack. Even in the West Bank where there is no Hamas.
Hamas do not hold the lives of Palestinians in their hands because there is no Hamas in the West Bank.
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comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
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All of it.
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And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
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What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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Why does Hamas have Palestinian lives in their hands?
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Because they don't consider them people, just pawns.
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Pawns for what?
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comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
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All of it.
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And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
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What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
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They gave up their weapons by May 2000. In accord with the Good Friday agreement of 1998.
How did an event that happened in September 2001 have any effect on that?
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today
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Cinci
Is it an absolute fact that if Israel had never occupied Palestine and even if it had occupied, if it had not overseen apartheid over Palestinians and had instead treated them like human beings with equal rights, then Hamas wouldn't exist and the "current escalation" would have never happened?
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
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All of it.
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And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
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What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
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They gave up their weapons by May 2000. In accord with the Good Friday agreement of 1998.
How did an event that happened in September 2001 have any effect on that?
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It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today
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Cinci
Is it an absolute fact that if Israel had never occupied Palestine and even if it had occupied, if it had not overseen apartheid over Palestinians and had instead treated them like human beings with equal rights, then Hamas wouldn't exist and the "current escalation" would have never happened?
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BOOM!!!
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
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All of it.
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And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
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What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They gave up their weapons by May 2000. In accord with the Good Friday agreement of 1998.
How did an event that happened in September 2001 have any effect on that?
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https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2023/0523/1385280-ira-decommission/
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It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today
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Cinci
Is it an absolute fact that if Israel had never occupied Palestine and even if it had occupied, if it had not overseen apartheid over Palestinians and had instead treated them like human beings with equal rights, then Hamas wouldn't exist and the "current escalation" would have never happened?
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And nobody disputes that do they?
The point i made was in response to people stupidly mocking Hamas as being a country, which obviously they are not in the literal sense but they do have the powers of one to a degree and hold lives in their hands.
I am gonna stop here as it is pointless, none of you guys will concede a point and have spent the thread mocking anyone with a different stance as seen above by laughing at the Irish terrorist movement.
Will catch you guys on the next terrorist thread from somewhere in the world when you will defend the terrorist actions no doubt.
Honestly the sense of faux outrage on here from people who know absolutely nothing about much about what is really happening because they aren't there is staggering
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They gave up their weapons by May 2000. In accord with the Good Friday agreement of 1998.
How did an event that happened in September 2001 have any effect on that?
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https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2023/0523/1385280-ira-decommission/
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comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
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It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today
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Cinci
Is it an absolute fact that if Israel had never occupied Palestine and even if it had occupied, if it had not overseen apartheid over Palestinians and had instead treated them like human beings with equal rights, then Hamas wouldn't exist and the "current escalation" would have never happened?
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Correct
It's also fact that had they not, that region would have become dominated by powerful countries that blocked global trade to Western countries and you either wouldn't be alive right now or living in a tent without internet access.
Problem is these people are spoiled by their own peace and freedom, they don't know how or why they have it. Do they actually think living in a Country like North Korea is better. Fools.
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They gave up their weapons by May 2000. In accord with the Good Friday agreement of 1998.
How did an event that happened in September 2001 have any effect on that?
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We just ran out of bullets
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It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today
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Cinci
Is it an absolute fact that if Israel had never occupied Palestine and even if it had occupied, if it had not overseen apartheid over Palestinians and had instead treated them like human beings with equal rights, then Hamas wouldn't exist and the "current escalation" would have never happened?
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And nobody disputes that do they?
The point i made was in response to people stupidly mocking Hamas as being a country, which obviously they are not in the literal sense but they do have the powers of one to a degree and hold lives in their hands.
I am gonna stop here as it is pointless, none of you guys will concede a point and have spent the thread mocking anyone with a different stance as seen above by laughing at the Irish terrorist movement.
Will catch you guys on the next terrorist thread from somewhere in the world when you will defend the terrorist actions no doubt.
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If I'm defending Hamas then you're defending Israel and if we compare then you are defending the worse terrorists between the two, because Israel are worse than Hamas and have far greater feats of terrorism against innocent Palestinians than Hamas against innocent Israelis. Of course that fact doesn't fit the narrative you are so desperate to not be false, but unfortunately the evidence is right before your eyes and you're struggling between what you know is rightful and what you've previously always thought to be the truth and having to accept that it isn't.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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24,448 Palestinians and 1,410 Israeli's
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Israel did that. They chose it. Otherwise you'll have to blame Israel for 7thnof October.
And we know how both you you wouldn't want to do that
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posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
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Not an absolute fact because you haven't accounted for the Palestinians that Israel would have killed or maimed regardless of the attack, imprisoned indefinitely without trial and never released which is like death as you're never seen again, displaced from their homes in favour of illegal Israeli settlements and left destitute which is close to dying. You have also not accounted for Palestinians killed, sometimes by lynching, by Israeli settlers and their little militia groups. You have further failed to account for those that die due to poor health services and hygiene in what is the most densely populated region of the world, people packed in like sardines. And those that die from weaponisation of essential services like water and electricity.
And finally, those that die form anal problems because Israel won't give them a permit to build a latrine.
So yeah saan, not an absolute fact.
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This.
They have been mowing the lawn fmevery few years. It's policy. They would have done something like this sooner or later.
And let's not mention the Ethnic cleansing that has been happening in the West Bank.
They should treat any British IDF soldier partaking in this Genocide like Shamima Begum, if they had any consistency
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Israel did that. They chose it. Otherwise you'll have to blame Israel for 7thnof October.
And we know how both you you wouldn't want to do that
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What difference does it make who I blame?
People are cants. Israel was put there to stop the other cantish countries taking over, which has given you freedom and prosperity. You have no idea what to do with it, other than whine a lot.
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Israel did that. They chose it. Otherwise you'll have to blame Israel for 7thnof October.
And we know how both you you wouldn't want to do that
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What difference does it make who I blame?
People are cants. Israel was put there to stop the other cantish countries taking over, which has given you freedom and prosperity. You have no idea what to do with it, other than whine a lot.
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Straight out of the EDL propaganda playbook. Wonder if you’re gonna start talking about ‘military aged males’ coming over in boats.
Yawn. Must suck to carry about so much guilt regarding every life that's been lost in history in order to allow you to post that message.
The Irony is of course this guy wants to have a go at someone on forum pointing out that Israel is strategic to the West but sticks up for a President who sent billions of pounds to support them.
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Yawn. Must suck to carry about so much guilt regarding every life that's been lost in history in order to allow you to post that message.
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You think Palestinians have to die in their thousands so we can have ‘freedom’. We see what you are.
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posted 48 minutes ago
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Israel did that. They chose it. Otherwise you'll have to blame Israel for 7thnof October.
And we know how both you you wouldn't want to do that
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What difference does it make who I blame?
People are cants. Israel was put there to stop the other cantish countries taking over, which has given you freedom and prosperity. You have no idea what to do with it, other than whine a lot.
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Straight out of the EDL propaganda playbook. Wonder if you’re gonna start talking about ‘military aged males’ coming over in boats.
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Yeah, he's one of those Tommy Robinson types.
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
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All of it.
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And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
posted on 20/1/24
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
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Not an absolute fact because you haven't accounted for the Palestinians that Israel would have killed or maimed regardless of the attack, imprisoned indefinitely without trial and never released which is like death as you're never seen again, displaced from their homes in favour of illegal Israeli settlements and left destitute which is close to dying. You have also not accounted for Palestinians killed, sometimes by lynching, by Israeli settlers and their little militia groups. You have further failed to account for those that die due to poor health services and hygiene in what is the most densely populated region of the world, people packed in like sardines. And those that die from weaponisation of essential services like water and electricity.
And finally, those that die form anal problems because Israel won't give them a permit to build a latrine.
So yeah saan, not an absolute fact.
posted on 20/1/24
That's just off the top of my head though. All that would have happened anyway without the October 7th Hamas attack. Even in the West Bank where there is no Hamas.
Hamas do not hold the lives of Palestinians in their hands because there is no Hamas in the West Bank.
posted on 20/1/24
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
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All of it.
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And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
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What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
posted on 20/1/24
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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Why does Hamas have Palestinian lives in their hands?
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Because they don't consider them people, just pawns.
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Pawns for what?
posted on 20/1/24
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comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
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All of it.
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And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
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What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
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They gave up their weapons by May 2000. In accord with the Good Friday agreement of 1998.
How did an event that happened in September 2001 have any effect on that?
posted on 20/1/24
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today
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Cinci
Is it an absolute fact that if Israel had never occupied Palestine and even if it had occupied, if it had not overseen apartheid over Palestinians and had instead treated them like human beings with equal rights, then Hamas wouldn't exist and the "current escalation" would have never happened?
posted on 20/1/24
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comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
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Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
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Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
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All of it.
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And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
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What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
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They gave up their weapons by May 2000. In accord with the Good Friday agreement of 1998.
How did an event that happened in September 2001 have any effect on that?
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posted on 20/1/24
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are ... (U1282)
posted 0 seconds ago
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today
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Cinci
Is it an absolute fact that if Israel had never occupied Palestine and even if it had occupied, if it had not overseen apartheid over Palestinians and had instead treated them like human beings with equal rights, then Hamas wouldn't exist and the "current escalation" would have never happened?
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BOOM!!!
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comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
====
Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
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What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
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But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They gave up their weapons by May 2000. In accord with the Good Friday agreement of 1998.
How did an event that happened in September 2001 have any effect on that?
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https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2023/0523/1385280-ira-decommission/
posted on 20/1/24
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are ... (U1282)
posted 11 minutes ago
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today
=====
Cinci
Is it an absolute fact that if Israel had never occupied Palestine and even if it had occupied, if it had not overseen apartheid over Palestinians and had instead treated them like human beings with equal rights, then Hamas wouldn't exist and the "current escalation" would have never happened?
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And nobody disputes that do they?
The point i made was in response to people stupidly mocking Hamas as being a country, which obviously they are not in the literal sense but they do have the powers of one to a degree and hold lives in their hands.
I am gonna stop here as it is pointless, none of you guys will concede a point and have spent the thread mocking anyone with a different stance as seen above by laughing at the Irish terrorist movement.
Will catch you guys on the next terrorist thread from somewhere in the world when you will defend the terrorist actions no doubt.
posted on 20/1/24
Honestly the sense of faux outrage on here from people who know absolutely nothing about much about what is really happening because they aren't there is staggering
posted on 20/1/24
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comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
====
Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They gave up their weapons by May 2000. In accord with the Good Friday agreement of 1998.
How did an event that happened in September 2001 have any effect on that?
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https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2023/0523/1385280-ira-decommission/
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posted on 20/1/24
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 25 minutes ago
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today
=====
Cinci
Is it an absolute fact that if Israel had never occupied Palestine and even if it had occupied, if it had not overseen apartheid over Palestinians and had instead treated them like human beings with equal rights, then Hamas wouldn't exist and the "current escalation" would have never happened?
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Correct
It's also fact that had they not, that region would have become dominated by powerful countries that blocked global trade to Western countries and you either wouldn't be alive right now or living in a tent without internet access.
posted on 20/1/24
Problem is these people are spoiled by their own peace and freedom, they don't know how or why they have it. Do they actually think living in a Country like North Korea is better. Fools.
posted on 20/1/24
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posted 13 seconds ago
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posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
Reality is that Hamas is a defacto country as it has the future of Palestine in its hands.
====
Not once have you ever made sense on this topic. Ever.
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're a fvkin idiot. How far back are we allowed to look for blame? Did history just start on 7/10/2023/?
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No but this current escalation did
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
So my point being Hamas is basically dictating the future of Palestine isn't far fetched. They quite literally have Palestinian lives in their hands.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is amusing about that?
It is a fact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And here lay the problem. You can't even acknowledge the most basic facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But your argument is to kill Palestinians over a longer period because....well... optics?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What? My argument is that major events change the face of conflict. This Hamas attack did just that, hence multiple threads on here and global news for months.
Similar to 9/11. Terrorism and its perception changed completely after that day. Even the Irish rep army(had to type that and not abbreviate) effectively gave up after that and changed their approach.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They gave up their weapons by May 2000. In accord with the Good Friday agreement of 1998.
How did an event that happened in September 2001 have any effect on that?
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We just ran out of bullets
posted on 20/1/24
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are ... (U1282)
posted 11 minutes ago
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today
=====
Cinci
Is it an absolute fact that if Israel had never occupied Palestine and even if it had occupied, if it had not overseen apartheid over Palestinians and had instead treated them like human beings with equal rights, then Hamas wouldn't exist and the "current escalation" would have never happened?
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And nobody disputes that do they?
The point i made was in response to people stupidly mocking Hamas as being a country, which obviously they are not in the literal sense but they do have the powers of one to a degree and hold lives in their hands.
I am gonna stop here as it is pointless, none of you guys will concede a point and have spent the thread mocking anyone with a different stance as seen above by laughing at the Irish terrorist movement.
Will catch you guys on the next terrorist thread from somewhere in the world when you will defend the terrorist actions no doubt.
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If I'm defending Hamas then you're defending Israel and if we compare then you are defending the worse terrorists between the two, because Israel are worse than Hamas and have far greater feats of terrorism against innocent Palestinians than Hamas against innocent Israelis. Of course that fact doesn't fit the narrative you are so desperate to not be false, but unfortunately the evidence is right before your eyes and you're struggling between what you know is rightful and what you've previously always thought to be the truth and having to accept that it isn't.
posted on 20/1/24
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA06 NFL Fantasy CHAMP 2023 (U11551)
posted 6 seconds ago
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In what way? Hamas in the last three months have caused 10k Palestinians to die. That is quite a lot of power.
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24,448 Palestinians and 1,410 Israeli's
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Israel did that. They chose it. Otherwise you'll have to blame Israel for 7thnof October.
And we know how both you you wouldn't want to do that
posted on 20/1/24
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are ... (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
It is an absolute fsct that if Hamas didn't carry out that terror attack there would be(according to the fella above) about 23k more Palestinians alive today.
======
Not an absolute fact because you haven't accounted for the Palestinians that Israel would have killed or maimed regardless of the attack, imprisoned indefinitely without trial and never released which is like death as you're never seen again, displaced from their homes in favour of illegal Israeli settlements and left destitute which is close to dying. You have also not accounted for Palestinians killed, sometimes by lynching, by Israeli settlers and their little militia groups. You have further failed to account for those that die due to poor health services and hygiene in what is the most densely populated region of the world, people packed in like sardines. And those that die from weaponisation of essential services like water and electricity.
And finally, those that die form anal problems because Israel won't give them a permit to build a latrine.
So yeah saan, not an absolute fact.
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This.
They have been mowing the lawn fmevery few years. It's policy. They would have done something like this sooner or later.
And let's not mention the Ethnic cleansing that has been happening in the West Bank.
They should treat any British IDF soldier partaking in this Genocide like Shamima Begum, if they had any consistency
posted on 20/1/24
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 48 minutes ago
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Israel did that. They chose it. Otherwise you'll have to blame Israel for 7thnof October.
And we know how both you you wouldn't want to do that
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What difference does it make who I blame?
People are cants. Israel was put there to stop the other cantish countries taking over, which has given you freedom and prosperity. You have no idea what to do with it, other than whine a lot.
posted on 20/1/24
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 48 minutes ago
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Israel did that. They chose it. Otherwise you'll have to blame Israel for 7thnof October.
And we know how both you you wouldn't want to do that
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What difference does it make who I blame?
People are cants. Israel was put there to stop the other cantish countries taking over, which has given you freedom and prosperity. You have no idea what to do with it, other than whine a lot.
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Straight out of the EDL propaganda playbook. Wonder if you’re gonna start talking about ‘military aged males’ coming over in boats.
posted on 20/1/24
Yawn. Must suck to carry about so much guilt regarding every life that's been lost in history in order to allow you to post that message.
posted on 20/1/24
The Irony is of course this guy wants to have a go at someone on forum pointing out that Israel is strategic to the West but sticks up for a President who sent billions of pounds to support them.
posted on 20/1/24
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yawn. Must suck to carry about so much guilt regarding every life that's been lost in history in order to allow you to post that message.
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You think Palestinians have to die in their thousands so we can have ‘freedom’. We see what you are.
posted on 20/1/24
comment by Robb - Glenn Maxwell. Legend. Hero. Icon. (U22716)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 48 minutes ago
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Israel did that. They chose it. Otherwise you'll have to blame Israel for 7thnof October.
And we know how both you you wouldn't want to do that
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What difference does it make who I blame?
People are cants. Israel was put there to stop the other cantish countries taking over, which has given you freedom and prosperity. You have no idea what to do with it, other than whine a lot.
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Straight out of the EDL propaganda playbook. Wonder if you’re gonna start talking about ‘military aged males’ coming over in boats.
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Yeah, he's one of those Tommy Robinson types.
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