comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 35 minutes ago
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posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Why the pallaver (apathe....ah what's the point) (U10168)
posted 14 minutes ago
Now just Idah to come to get back to where we were end of May 🙄
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Aye, until we sell MOR and Hatate.
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Doesn't bare thinking about mate, although almost certain at least one will be away.
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Why do we think this?

It’s quite clear that we are being hard nosed about any interest unless it’s serious money which we’d be rightly slaughtered for turning down.

And I don’t for a second think we’d let either of O’Reilly or Hatate to go without us going into the market for a serious first team player.

If we get Idah we still need a third project striker imo, having let two go off the books. Stay at that and we are slightly better than last season. In so saying I don’t think we’re anywhere near finished in the market.
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Agree, until the prices for either are met then imo they are staying and rightly so, if either or both go, and it's possible but not certain then we should step up and replace one other with as good as we can, will we? I've nae idea but I'd facking hope so

I've also got a feeling that we will still be buying players before the end of the window but understand it makes it tough leaving lt late
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Just to be clear, I’ve absolutely no problem with us selling MOR & Hatate for good money … it’s our model, and frankly we’ve no choice. My gripe, as ever, is the totally reactive nature of our recruitment, and failure to address clear long-term holes in the first team … LB, LCB, DM, Jota replacement, and obviously another striker? When the time comes to replace MOR and/or Hatate, we’d be in a far easier situation if we weren’t also still trying to plug all those other gaps as well, which have been clear as day for long enough. It’s the same every window though, so I’m going to stop talking about it now. Let’s see where we are at the end of the month.

It’s never an easy process to balance the exit of class players and replacing them with others who are nearly as good but with high potential to fill the gaps. However that’s the dilemma our club faces so our recruitment guys need to be on their game. It’s a game of poker in effect as every club is trying to get best value.

But again DTJ, the model clearly works.

It would be great to have better players in all those positions. But to what end? Win the leagues and the cups more easily?

Getting those positions filled with better players. That would easily cost us £30m upwards. And still there would be no guarantee of more honours.

so despite hart telling us he was leaving months ago our extensive planning to replace him was rodgers sending him a text AFTER the euros had finished.

i hate them, i really, really hate them.

KTF mate, season doesn’t kick off until Sunday. Not like we need to improve, we beat Man City and Chelsea, and can always rely on Rangers to implode. Be fine. Wanting the team to improve year on year is overrated. Look at how quickly we got Bernardo back, thanks to having a deal in place when the loan was agreed. 👍

comment by Why the pallaver (apathe....ah what's the... (U10168)
posted 47 minutes ago
KTF mate, season doesn’t kick off until Sunday. Not like we need to improve, we beat Man City and Chelsea, and can always rely on Rangers to implode. Be fine. Wanting the team to improve year on year is overrated. Look at how quickly we got Bernardo back, thanks to having a deal in place when the loan was agreed. 👍
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We saved £2.5m reputedly on signing him now instead of just jumping in feet first.

that's why we function as well as we do.

I genuinely have no idea why fans get so wound up about this year after year. We are a plc, and a very good one at that.

Hence why fans don't run football clubs.

i'm gna stab you.

the timing isn't the issue, its that we hadn't even made contact

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 26 seconds ago
i'm gna stab you.

the timing isn't the issue, its that we hadn't even made contact
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We had continual contact. How do you think we finally settled?

i know whats happened here, you have met Peter Lawwell and now he is your best pal

going home to your mrs ever night and giving it "peter says this" , "did i tell you what peter says", "we should watch that house of dragons, peter says its good and that theres dragons in it"

yer pal peter is a prlck mate

i just realized you were talking about bernardo and not the keeper.

my point stands on your pal being a pwlck tho

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Why the pallaver (apathe....ah what's the... (U10168)
posted 47 minutes ago
KTF mate, season doesn’t kick off until Sunday. Not like we need to improve, we beat Man City and Chelsea, and can always rely on Rangers to implode. Be fine. Wanting the team to improve year on year is overrated. Look at how quickly we got Bernardo back, thanks to having a deal in place when the loan was agreed. 👍
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We saved £2.5m reputedly on signing him now instead of just jumping in feet first.

that's why we function as well as we do.

I genuinely have no idea why fans get so wound up about this year after year. We are a plc, and a very good one at that.

Hence why fans don't run football clubs.
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👍

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Why the pallaver (apathe....ah what's the... (U10168)
posted 47 minutes ago
KTF mate, season doesn’t kick off until Sunday. Not like we need to improve, we beat Man City and Chelsea, and can always rely on Rangers to implode. Be fine. Wanting the team to improve year on year is overrated. Look at how quickly we got Bernardo back, thanks to having a deal in place when the loan was agreed. 👍
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We saved £2.5m reputedly on signing him now instead of just jumping in feet first.

that's why we function as well as we do.

I genuinely have no idea why fans get so wound up about this year after year. We are a plc, and a very good one at that.

Hence why fans don't run football clubs.
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Quite easy why, and you know the reasons. We are at this moment weaker than we were at the end of the season. We probably will strengthen, but late, as usual. The last 2 windows were a mess and we have a bloated squad of players not good enough, like your favoured Mikey Johnston. I am not looking for us to splash the cash, but very bored of doing the least possible to just keep ahead of Rangers. We have clear deficiencies not being addressed over the last 2-3 years. There are no signs of that happening now either. Yes, maybe going on in the background, but recent experience, and before Postecoglu say, not really.

You seem content with how the club as a PLC are going about their business, which is fine, but so are the frustrations of others wanting to see attempts at progress. Both opinions are valid, but the club doing a mixture of both would be nice for a change.

the bernardo deal doesnt bother me, idah as well because norwich are digging their heels in and he seems to be managers choice, i wouldnt trust us to find another striker.

however...

GK was an issue and while sorted now its disturbing to see the process.

left back still an issue, owen beck the latest name to improve us, will he make us better in the champs league? doubt it.

no news on a cb so assume scales again, brilliant.

still another striker short...

if we lose o'riley, he will need replaced.

to start the season worse off than we ended it is pathetic

comment by Why the pallaver (apathe....ah what's the... (U10168)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Why the pallaver (apathe....ah what's the... (U10168)
posted 47 minutes ago
KTF mate, season doesn’t kick off until Sunday. Not like we need to improve, we beat Man City and Chelsea, and can always rely on Rangers to implode. Be fine. Wanting the team to improve year on year is overrated. Look at how quickly we got Bernardo back, thanks to having a deal in place when the loan was agreed. 👍
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We saved £2.5m reputedly on signing him now instead of just jumping in feet first.

that's why we function as well as we do.

I genuinely have no idea why fans get so wound up about this year after year. We are a plc, and a very good one at that.

Hence why fans don't run football clubs.
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Quite easy why, and you know the reasons. We are at this moment weaker than we were at the end of the season. We probably will strengthen, but late, as usual. The last 2 windows were a mess and we have a bloated squad of players not good enough, like your favoured Mikey Johnston. I am not looking for us to splash the cash, but very bored of doing the least possible to just keep ahead of Rangers. We have clear deficiencies not being addressed over the last 2-3 years. There are no signs of that happening now either. Yes, maybe going on in the background, but recent experience, and before Postecoglu say, not really.

You seem content with how the club as a PLC are going about their business, which is fine, but so are the frustrations of others wanting to see attempts at progress. Both opinions are valid, but the club doing a mixture of both would be nice for a change.
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We are not weaker at all.

I'd say we have a better keeper and we've moved on some of the failed project signings (hopefully more to go). We are very much primed to sign Idah, unless someone can demonstrate differently and our squad assets are far higher.

We have even more money to use as the manager and board see fit and appropriate.

So, what part of us is weaker?

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 13 minutes ago
i know whats happened here, you have met Peter Lawwell and now he is your best pal

going home to your mrs ever night and giving it "peter says this" , "did i tell you what peter says", "we should watch that house of dragons, peter says its good and that theres dragons in it"

yer pal peter is a prlck mate
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But it does have dragons

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
the bernardo deal doesnt bother me, idah as well because norwich are digging their heels in and he seems to be managers choice, i wouldnt trust us to find another striker.

however...

GK was an issue and while sorted now its disturbing to see the process.

left back still an issue, owen beck the latest name to improve us, will he make us better in the champs league? doubt it.

no news on a cb so assume scales again, brilliant.

still another striker short...

if we lose o'riley, he will need replaced.

to start the season worse off than we ended it is pathetic
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We're not worse off.

if he was in charge of the show it wouldn't have dragons, too expensive.

would be house of hamsters

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Why the pallaver (apathe....ah what's the... (U10168)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Why the pallaver (apathe....ah what's the... (U10168)
posted 47 minutes ago
KTF mate, season doesn’t kick off until Sunday. Not like we need to improve, we beat Man City and Chelsea, and can always rely on Rangers to implode. Be fine. Wanting the team to improve year on year is overrated. Look at how quickly we got Bernardo back, thanks to having a deal in place when the loan was agreed. 👍
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We saved £2.5m reputedly on signing him now instead of just jumping in feet first.

that's why we function as well as we do.

I genuinely have no idea why fans get so wound up about this year after year. We are a plc, and a very good one at that.

Hence why fans don't run football clubs.
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Quite easy why, and you know the reasons. We are at this moment weaker than we were at the end of the season. We probably will strengthen, but late, as usual. The last 2 windows were a mess and we have a bloated squad of players not good enough, like your favoured Mikey Johnston. I am not looking for us to splash the cash, but very bored of doing the least possible to just keep ahead of Rangers. We have clear deficiencies not being addressed over the last 2-3 years. There are no signs of that happening now either. Yes, maybe going on in the background, but recent experience, and before Postecoglu say, not really.

You seem content with how the club as a PLC are going about their business, which is fine, but so are the frustrations of others wanting to see attempts at progress. Both opinions are valid, but the club doing a mixture of both would be nice for a change.
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We are not weaker at all.

I'd say we have a better keeper and we've moved on some of the failed project signings (hopefully more to go). We are very much primed to sign Idah, unless someone can demonstrate differently and our squad assets are far higher.

We have even more money to use as the manager and board see fit and appropriate.

So, what part of us is weaker?
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Up front. Like I said, at this moment in time

"You seem content with how the club as a PLC are going about their business, which is fine, but so are the frustrations of others wanting to see attempts at progress. Both opinions are valid, but the club doing a mixture of both would be nice for a change."

I never said I was content. I said I understand how we operate as a successful plc and as a hugely successful football club.

I'm a fan of the club too you know and also have a "wish list" of things I'd like to see happening. But again; I'm a fan, and should be nowhere near running a football club.

What progress do you want that we could reasonably expect, and at what cost to ensure we get that progress?

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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 26 seconds ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Why the pallaver (apathe....ah what's the... (U10168)
posted 47 minutes ago
KTF mate, season doesn’t kick off until Sunday. Not like we need to improve, we beat Man City and Chelsea, and can always rely on Rangers to implode. Be fine. Wanting the team to improve year on year is overrated. Look at how quickly we got Bernardo back, thanks to having a deal in place when the loan was agreed. 👍
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We saved £2.5m reputedly on signing him now instead of just jumping in feet first.

that's why we function as well as we do.

I genuinely have no idea why fans get so wound up about this year after year. We are a plc, and a very good one at that.

Hence why fans don't run football clubs.
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Quite easy why, and you know the reasons. We are at this moment weaker than we were at the end of the season. We probably will strengthen, but late, as usual. The last 2 windows were a mess and we have a bloated squad of players not good enough, like your favoured Mikey Johnston. I am not looking for us to splash the cash, but very bored of doing the least possible to just keep ahead of Rangers. We have clear deficiencies not being addressed over the last 2-3 years. There are no signs of that happening now either. Yes, maybe going on in the background, but recent experience, and before Postecoglu say, not really.

You seem content with how the club as a PLC are going about their business, which is fine, but so are the frustrations of others wanting to see attempts at progress. Both opinions are valid, but the club doing a mixture of both would be nice for a change.
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We are not weaker at all.

I'd say we have a better keeper and we've moved on some of the failed project signings (hopefully more to go). We are very much primed to sign Idah, unless someone can demonstrate differently and our squad assets are far higher.

We have even more money to use as the manager and board see fit and appropriate.

So, what part of us is weaker?
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Up front. Like I said, at this moment in time
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Season hasn't started yet.

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
if he was in charge of the show it wouldn't have dragons, too expensive.

would be house of hamsters
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Make your mind up, or I won't wtach it any more.

we're absolutely weaker mate, we had 3 strikers and now we have one

we were reliant on james forrest a the end of last season and we haven't improved a problem pairing that were regularly causing us to lose goals from the back post.

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
we're absolutely weaker mate, we had 3 strikers and now we have one

we were reliant on james forrest a the end of last season and we haven't improved a problem pairing that were regularly causing us to lose goals from the back post.
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The Idah transfer will happen, of that I'm confident. Interesting to note that the comment of us being weaker is now confined to "up front" and "right now". . That wasn't the defined comments we saw earlier.

Also believe we will sign another couple of decent players during August.

I'll vent my spleen soon enough if things don't change, have no fear on that front. Right now though; meh.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
"You seem content with how the club as a PLC are going about their business, which is fine, but so are the frustrations of others wanting to see attempts at progress. Both opinions are valid, but the club doing a mixture of both would be nice for a change."

I never said I was content. I said I understand how we operate as a successful plc and as a hugely successful football club.

I'm a fan of the club too you know and also have a "wish list" of things I'd like to see happening. But again; I'm a fan, and should be nowhere near running a football club.

What progress do you want that we could reasonably expect, and at what cost to ensure we get that progress?
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I don’t know if you just misunderstand what I write? I have said I am not looking for them to splash the cash, I know the model we have and how successful it is. I think our use of it isn't as good as it could be, because we overload with projects and end up with a bloated squad. Celtic can't get better than Scales, Welsh or Taylor for relatively little money? That's the minimum amount of progress I want to see.

Idah is not there yet and Oh is gone. If Idah comes in, fine, he knows how we play, same with Bernardo, then we are where we were, minus Oh, albeit Rodgers, the developer of young players, obviously didn't rate him.

weaker is weaker mate, until yesterday we were weaker in midfield as well.

we were already weak in defence