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posted 1 day, 6 hours ago

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 21 minutes ago
Sorry but Joe Biden was right, these people are garbage.

Racist garbage.
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It’s that attitude that lost the election for the Dems.

Whatever happened to compromise, why not make some concessions to appeal to a larger base - Trump won the populist vote as well.

The Republican analyst on CNN basically said that ordinary hard working Americans were fed up of being called garbage and naaaazis and effectively punished the Dems at the election.
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Well it’s what they are, so I ain’t going to pretend otherwise.

Let’s face it, these inbreds will accept fascism for slightly cheaper gas (or eggs)

F*ck em.
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You can’t say f*ck em, they are the majority - that’s how this works.

You have to find common ground and pull enough of them over to your side. That’s been politics from day dot - the dems either forgot that or mistakenly thought they were the majority - now they know.

I would go as far as saying that if the Republicans win in 2028 - the only people to blame will be the Democrats for allowing it to happen again. Learn your mistakes
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There is no common ground with these people, zero, they’re in a f*cking cult.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 21 minutes ago
Sorry but Joe Biden was right, these people are garbage.

Racist garbage.
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It’s that attitude that lost the election for the Dems.

Whatever happened to compromise, why not make some concessions to appeal to a larger base - Trump won the populist vote as well.

The Republican analyst on CNN basically said that ordinary hard working Americans were fed up of being called garbage and naaaazis and effectively punished the Dems at the election.
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Well it’s what they are, so I ain’t going to pretend otherwise.

Let’s face it, these inbreds will accept fascism for slightly cheaper gas (or eggs)

F*ck em.
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You can’t say f*ck em, they are the majority - that’s how this works.

You have to find common ground and pull enough of them over to your side. That’s been politics from day dot - the dems either forgot that or mistakenly thought they were the majority - now they know.

I would go as far as saying that if the Republicans win in 2028 - the only people to blame will be the Democrats for allowing it to happen again. Learn your mistakes
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There is no common ground with these people, zero, they’re in a f*cking cult.
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And this is why the world is heading into serious trouble. No give or take from either hard left or hard right. The left are as vitriolic and embittered as the right and just as entrenched in their views

This is how the world has fragmented and in the end it’s how it will end

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

All I’m saying is if you’re ever wondering how Hitler happened and the atrocities that followed, just keep watching America and witness it happening in real time.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 40 seconds ago
There are some real spiteful and nasty people in the world today, people are losing the core values left right and center.

The problem we have is the internet, back in the day it was called a soapbox. It is a platform for people to demand that they get listened to.

The best one I have had to put up with is that we all need to be more tolerant. What a load of rubbish.

The normal sane person which is 99% of us have always and will always be tolerant. But now we have people who think it is cool to be woke, or cool to be far left, just to show how "tolerant" they are, a sort of badge of honor. If you dare say something that they do not agree on, then you are a far right nut job.

Donald Trump should not be president of anything, not with his checkered past. But I have to say, I agree 100% with a lot of what he says. I have the same opinions towards Nigel Farage, I agree with a lot of what he says.

These people are saying what a lot of the normal sane people in our society are thinking. That is why people are voting for them.

Whatever you thoughts on Israel or Ukraine are your own thoughts, undoubtedly there is right and wrong on both sides. It does not make people right in what they say, and the insults that ensue from the debates are just spiteful.

I have this debate with a very good friend of mine, he is the leader of his church congregation. What he tells me sometimes is very poignant. I am sorry if you don't want to get embroiled in this, but I am going to tell you what he tells me anyway.

He tells me that Satan and is minions are winning and we cannot even see what is happening right in front of our eyes. The darkness is taking over. I asked him for examples, this is what he tells me:-

When was the last time you said hello to a stranger as you pass in the street ?

When was the last time you helped a pensioner cross the road ?

When was the last time you helped anyone with anything ?

When was the last time you prayed for someone other that yourself ?

When was the last time you prayed ?

When was the last time you put a stranger before yourself ?

I could go on. But you get my drift.

People who have voted for Donald Trump have done it, because the minority are drowning out the majority, Trump is not scared to speak his mind. Normal people are.

People will/have been arrested for speaking their minds, freedom of speech has gone, and nobody has noticed. Donald Trump after all the bad press did not do a bad job last time, what makes you all think he will do worse this time around ?

I apologies for the long ear chewing, and if you have taken the time to read all my droning, thanks.
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Right, so you support a N@zi / Rapist.

Just say that. It’s far quicker to type.
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And there you go, what a spiteful insulting comment. I hope you feel better for announcing this on your soapbox.
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No, you know what’s spiteful (in fact f*cking evil) forcing a 12 year old child to carry and give birth to her rapists baby, locking migrant kids up in cages, persecuting LGBTQ people, Muslims and Haitians all of which will be happening and acceptable under Trump’s watch, so don’t you dare f*cking lecture me.
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Is there any need for this ?

If anyone is lecturing anyone, its you. You need to calm down, not once have I said anything that you have spouted.

Just remember, you are the one shouting out insults here, not me.
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Oh just save it for church Cliff Richard.
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You are the problem with society today. You are the one who alienates people, you are the reason that you do not get what you want.

Just let that sink in.

I am done debating this topic with you, but I will gladly debate with the more tolerant people on here.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 21 minutes ago
Sorry but Joe Biden was right, these people are garbage.

Racist garbage.
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It’s that attitude that lost the election for the Dems.

Whatever happened to compromise, why not make some concessions to appeal to a larger base - Trump won the populist vote as well.

The Republican analyst on CNN basically said that ordinary hard working Americans were fed up of being called garbage and naaaazis and effectively punished the Dems at the election.
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Well it’s what they are, so I ain’t going to pretend otherwise.

Let’s face it, these inbreds will accept fascism for slightly cheaper gas (or eggs)

F*ck em.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You can’t say f*ck em, they are the majority - that’s how this works.

You have to find common ground and pull enough of them over to your side. That’s been politics from day dot - the dems either forgot that or mistakenly thought they were the majority - now they know.

I would go as far as saying that if the Republicans win in 2028 - the only people to blame will be the Democrats for allowing it to happen again. Learn your mistakes
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There is no common ground with these people, zero, they’re in a f*cking cult.
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And this is why the world is heading into serious trouble. No give or take from either hard left or hard right. The left are as vitriolic and embittered as the right and just as entrenched in their views

This is how the world has fragmented and in the end it’s how it will end
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Well said.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 24 minutes ago
I genuinely don't think the average American will be any worse off under him than they would be the Democrats. In fact some of their jobs could be argued to be more secure under Trump i.e. steel workers etc.

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I guess 'average American' needs some unpacking. The average American probably excludes women and girls who are denied abortions, including after instances of rape and inсеst, or carrying an unviable pregnancy and needing one to save their life. It also excludes vulnerable demographics whose rights are threatened.

But even if we talk about the material conditions for white, straight, male Americans, if he goes through with his tariffs plan it will have a horrific effect on inflation, which seems to be the biggest reason voters rejected the Democrats based on Biden's record. It will also result in reciprocal tariffs which will damage US exports. If he goes through his plan of mass deportations, it will also devastate the economy. If he implements his fiscal proposals, taxes for the richest 5% will go down, and taxes for the rest will increase.

It's ungenerous for me to say so, but if they voted for Trump, I don't have much sympathy if that spells a tough four years.
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I don't like him and what he stands for. If I was over there I'd not vote for him.

But he didn't bankrupt the country last time and he won't this time either. Americans are prepared to look the other way with the crazy BS that comes with him quite clearly as they are incredibly self centred people. They don't really give a stuff about Israel and Ukraine the vast majority of them.

The Democrats made a massive pigs ear of this election with the whole Biden will he won't he. That's been the issues.

Trump understands what America is better than people realise. He appeals to the less educated people and that's all intentional and all part of the plan.

America will be fine under Trump. The rest of us are at more risk.
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It might be fine if you’re rich, male, white and straight, it sure as f*ck won’t be fine for anyone else.
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Let's see. I think your comment is nothing more than hyperbole tbh.

Most Americans won't be impacted whatsoever just like most of us haven't felt any real difference between Tories and Labour.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

70+ million people voted for Trump, similar to the last two elections. This has been going on for almost a decade now, it's nothing new.

The meltdown on here by people like Automatic really demonstrates the issues some people have. There is more than one collective form of madness going around. Both sides think theirs madness is more superior to the others. This is how wars are created.

Am I worried? No. This is human nature, just look at the history books.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

Well I’m sorry, but I know which side I’m on.

You people can obviously decide for yourselves.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

Our grandparents knew how to deal with fascists, and I’m pretty certain appeasement and finding common never came into it.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 20 seconds ago
Our grandparents knew how to deal with fascists, and I’m pretty certain appeasement and finding common never came into it.
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That's exactly how Chamberlain tried to deal with Hitler. You should try to read some history books instead of just pointlessly flaming people on a forum.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

If the left does not find common ground then the right will keep getting voted in as they are the majority.

Blair understood that and Starmer did too - although I think he will really schitt this up.

Sure Jeremy Corbyn is the pin up - but he is completely unelectable. Half the country think he is a sandal wearing, beard stroking, jam making belle end of a man

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 20 seconds ago
Our grandparents knew how to deal with fascists, and I’m pretty certain appeasement and finding common never came into it.
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That's exactly how Chamberlain tried to deal with Hitler. You should try to read some history books instead of just pointlessly flaming people on a forum.
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Didn’t work though did it.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 20 seconds ago
Our grandparents knew how to deal with fascists, and I’m pretty certain appeasement and finding common never came into it.
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That's exactly how Chamberlain tried to deal with Hitler. You should try to read some history books instead of just pointlessly flaming people on a forum.
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Didn’t work though did it.
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Oh yes that's great reasoning. I hope you're not an armed police officer.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 20 seconds ago
Our grandparents knew how to deal with fascists, and I’m pretty certain appeasement and finding common never came into it.
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That's exactly how Chamberlain tried to deal with Hitler. You should try to read some history books instead of just pointlessly flaming people on a forum.
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100%. Churchill was not the full shilling, and in todays terms he would have been viewed upon as people are looking at Trump or Farage, but he was our greatest ever leader.

People really do need to reed a few books before coming onto the internet to shout people down.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our grandparents knew how to deal with fascists, and I’m pretty certain appeasement and finding common never came into it.
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Our grand parents went to war so we don’t have to. Trump is not marching across Europe committing mass genocide and setting up concentration camps.

And yet, irony of all ironys, it was the Dems that have done faaack all other than support Israel.

Our grandparents would absolutely expect us to talk and find commonality, shared principles.

That’s exactly what I believe the Dems will do now - find the common ground and stake it

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
If the left does not find common ground then the right will keep getting voted in as they are the majority.

Blair understood that and Starmer did too - although I think he will really schitt this up.

Sure Jeremy Corbyn is the pin up - but he is completely unelectable. Half the country think he is a sandal wearing, beard stroking, jam making belle end of a man
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Unelectable because…..oh I know this one, because our overwhelmingly right wing press told you he was unelectable.

I voted for Corbyn to be leader of the Labour Party and in both General Elections he fought.

He’s been proved right about most things, but especially Isreal/Palestine.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 20 seconds ago
Our grandparents knew how to deal with fascists, and I’m pretty certain appeasement and finding common never came into it.
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That's exactly how Chamberlain tried to deal with Hitler. You should try to read some history books instead of just pointlessly flaming people on a forum.
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100%. Churchill was not the full shilling, and in todays terms he would have been viewed upon as people are looking at Trump or Farage, but he was our greatest ever leader.

People really do need to reed a few books before coming onto the internet to shout people down.
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He was a perfect war time leader. He was voted out almost immediately after the war was won.

Stalin ran rings around him at Yalta and we effectively got cut out of deciding the new world order

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
If the left does not find common ground then the right will keep getting voted in as they are the majority.

Blair understood that and Starmer did too - although I think he will really schitt this up.

Sure Jeremy Corbyn is the pin up - but he is completely unelectable. Half the country think he is a sandal wearing, beard stroking, jam making belle end of a man
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Unelectable because…..oh I know this one, because our overwhelmingly right wing press told you he was unelectable.

I voted for Corbyn to be leader of the Labour Party and in both General Elections he fought.

He’s been proved right about most things, but especially Isreal/Palestine.
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He’s unelectable because he wanted to remove our nuclear deterrent - political suicide as even some of the most liberal amongst us felt that was faaacking stupid with people like Putin around.

It’s as simple as that

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our grandparents knew how to deal with fascists, and I’m pretty certain appeasement and finding common never came into it.
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Our grand parents went to war so we don’t have to. Trump is not marching across Europe committing mass genocide and setting up concentration camps.

And yet, irony of all ironys, it was the Dems that have done faaack all other than support Israel.

Our grandparents would absolutely expect us to talk and find commonality, shared principles.

That’s exactly what I believe the Dems will do now - find the common ground and stake it
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Well I’m not being funny Strike, but if the starting point is, “I wish you didn’t exist and I don’t want you to have any rights” Is the starting point, I don’t think people will be finding much common ground in this lifetime.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Calafiori knows how to Partey (U21076)
posted 12 minutes ago
I saw some MAGA guy on YT saying that the best thing about Trump winning is being able to drink the celeb liberal tears. There's also a clip of julia Hartley brewer on Talktv effectively saying the same thing. That explanation kind of says everything.

Firstly, it says that politics has become as tribal as sport like how when Arsenal lose and people hate watch AFTV - This is now happening with real life politics.

But the bit that really gets me is him saying that's the best thing about it - it speaks volumes about what a Trump presidency actually stands for, and the mindset of a Trump voter.
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Yes and what is the cause of that mindset?

It’s others calling those people Naaaazis, fascists, garbage, gammons, racists, etc. Now don’t get me wrong - some of those labels are correct for some of those people - but it was being used far too liberally, far too broad to describe a whole swathe of people.

I’m not right wing and I’m not left wing, i mostly vote based on how I think the UK will be affected economically. But calling anyone and everyone who votes Republican a Naaazi etc is insane and alienates people - the left needs to learn this otherwise this will keep happening
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100% agree with this. Too many people prepared to throw the racist insult about if someone doesn't conform to their political views. Its mental and I feel that this kind of attitude played a large part in the Brexit voting/result.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 40 seconds ago
There are some real spiteful and nasty people in the world today, people are losing the core values left right and center.

The problem we have is the internet, back in the day it was called a soapbox. It is a platform for people to demand that they get listened to.

The best one I have had to put up with is that we all need to be more tolerant. What a load of rubbish.

The normal sane person which is 99% of us have always and will always be tolerant. But now we have people who think it is cool to be woke, or cool to be far left, just to show how "tolerant" they are, a sort of badge of honor. If you dare say something that they do not agree on, then you are a far right nut job.

Donald Trump should not be president of anything, not with his checkered past. But I have to say, I agree 100% with a lot of what he says. I have the same opinions towards Nigel Farage, I agree with a lot of what he says.

These people are saying what a lot of the normal sane people in our society are thinking. That is why people are voting for them.

Whatever you thoughts on Israel or Ukraine are your own thoughts, undoubtedly there is right and wrong on both sides. It does not make people right in what they say, and the insults that ensue from the debates are just spiteful.

I have this debate with a very good friend of mine, he is the leader of his church congregation. What he tells me sometimes is very poignant. I am sorry if you don't want to get embroiled in this, but I am going to tell you what he tells me anyway.

He tells me that Satan and is minions are winning and we cannot even see what is happening right in front of our eyes. The darkness is taking over. I asked him for examples, this is what he tells me:-

When was the last time you said hello to a stranger as you pass in the street ?

When was the last time you helped a pensioner cross the road ?

When was the last time you helped anyone with anything ?

When was the last time you prayed for someone other that yourself ?

When was the last time you prayed ?

When was the last time you put a stranger before yourself ?

I could go on. But you get my drift.

People who have voted for Donald Trump have done it, because the minority are drowning out the majority, Trump is not scared to speak his mind. Normal people are.

People will/have been arrested for speaking their minds, freedom of speech has gone, and nobody has noticed. Donald Trump after all the bad press did not do a bad job last time, what makes you all think he will do worse this time around ?

I apologies for the long ear chewing, and if you have taken the time to read all my droning, thanks.
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Right, so you support a N@zi / Rapist.

Just say that. It’s far quicker to type.
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And there you go, what a spiteful insulting comment. I hope you feel better for announcing this on your soapbox.
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No, you know what’s spiteful (in fact f*cking evil) forcing a 12 year old child to carry and give birth to her rapists baby, locking migrant kids up in cages, persecuting LGBTQ people, Muslims and Haitians all of which will be happening and acceptable under Trump’s watch, so don’t you dare f*cking lecture me.
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Is there any need for this ?

If anyone is lecturing anyone, its you. You need to calm down, not once have I said anything that you have spouted.

Just remember, you are the one shouting out insults here, not me.
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Oh just save it for church Cliff Richard.
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comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 40 seconds ago
There are some real spiteful and nasty people in the world today, people are losing the core values left right and center.

The problem we have is the internet, back in the day it was called a soapbox. It is a platform for people to demand that they get listened to.

The best one I have had to put up with is that we all need to be more tolerant. What a load of rubbish.

The normal sane person which is 99% of us have always and will always be tolerant. But now we have people who think it is cool to be woke, or cool to be far left, just to show how "tolerant" they are, a sort of badge of honor. If you dare say something that they do not agree on, then you are a far right nut job.

Donald Trump should not be president of anything, not with his checkered past. But I have to say, I agree 100% with a lot of what he says. I have the same opinions towards Nigel Farage, I agree with a lot of what he says.

These people are saying what a lot of the normal sane people in our society are thinking. That is why people are voting for them.

Whatever you thoughts on Israel or Ukraine are your own thoughts, undoubtedly there is right and wrong on both sides. It does not make people right in what they say, and the insults that ensue from the debates are just spiteful.

I have this debate with a very good friend of mine, he is the leader of his church congregation. What he tells me sometimes is very poignant. I am sorry if you don't want to get embroiled in this, but I am going to tell you what he tells me anyway.

He tells me that Satan and is minions are winning and we cannot even see what is happening right in front of our eyes. The darkness is taking over. I asked him for examples, this is what he tells me:-

When was the last time you said hello to a stranger as you pass in the street ?

When was the last time you helped a pensioner cross the road ?

When was the last time you helped anyone with anything ?

When was the last time you prayed for someone other that yourself ?

When was the last time you prayed ?

When was the last time you put a stranger before yourself ?

I could go on. But you get my drift.

People who have voted for Donald Trump have done it, because the minority are drowning out the majority, Trump is not scared to speak his mind. Normal people are.

People will/have been arrested for speaking their minds, freedom of speech has gone, and nobody has noticed. Donald Trump after all the bad press did not do a bad job last time, what makes you all think he will do worse this time around ?

I apologies for the long ear chewing, and if you have taken the time to read all my droning, thanks.
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Right, so you support a N@zi / Rapist.

Just say that. It’s far quicker to type.
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And there you go, what a spiteful insulting comment. I hope you feel better for announcing this on your soapbox.
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No, you know what’s spiteful (in fact f*cking evil) forcing a 12 year old child to carry and give birth to her rapists baby, locking migrant kids up in cages, persecuting LGBTQ people, Muslims and Haitians all of which will be happening and acceptable under Trump’s watch, so don’t you dare f*cking lecture me.
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Is there any need for this ?

If anyone is lecturing anyone, its you. You need to calm down, not once have I said anything that you have spouted.

Just remember, you are the one shouting out insults here, not me.
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Oh just save it for church Cliff Richard.
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You are the problem with society today. You are the one who alienates people, you are the reason that you do not get what you want.

Just let that sink in.

I am done debating this topic with you, but I will gladly debate with the more tolerant people on here.

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posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago

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100% agree with this. Too many people prepared to throw the racist insult about if someone doesn't conform to their political views. Its mental and I feel that this kind of attitude played a large part in the Brexit voting/result.
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It did. Obviously there's many people you'll never get through to but there's a scale where people can be influenced. Demonising people just gets in the way of getting the information you want to get across to them. It serves no purpose whatsoever.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
If the left does not find common ground then the right will keep getting voted in as they are the majority.

Blair understood that and Starmer did too - although I think he will really schitt this up.

Sure Jeremy Corbyn is the pin up - but he is completely unelectable. Half the country think he is a sandal wearing, beard stroking, jam making belle end of a man
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Unelectable because…..oh I know this one, because our overwhelmingly right wing press told you he was unelectable.

I voted for Corbyn to be leader of the Labour Party and in both General Elections he fought.

He’s been proved right about most things, but especially Isreal/Palestine.
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He’s unelectable because he wanted to remove our nuclear deterrent - political suicide as even some of the most liberal amongst us felt that was faaacking stupid with people like Putin around.

It’s as simple as that
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One of the reasons I supported him. What a ludicrous waste of money which is neither a deterrent nor ever going to be used.

I question if we even really have any.

posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

Trump voter here.

The issue isn’t immigration, it’s ILLEGAL immigration. We have a process for folks who want to become citizens of the United States and that process must be followed.

Go further than that, the process for those wanting to seek asylum needs to be changed. My view is that if you’re a family coming to the US and seeking asylum, then follow the process, follow our requests, and we will investigate your claim and make a judgment. But if you’re a military aged male with no family with you and you are seeking asylum, chances are that unless you’re from Mexico or Cuba, it will be denied. Our request is that an asylum seeker should be seeking asylum in other countries before coming to the US.

So if you’re someone who thinks it’s racist to have an immigration policy in place, then you’re a deluded tool. A country without borders is no longer a country and i don’t respect any immigrant who doesn’t respect my country’s process.

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