comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
It seems to me that most of the countries that send their sons off to war are nuclear capable countries whereas most that don't send their sons off to war are not nuclear capable.

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Ukraine didn’t have a choice and no nuclear option

Palestine doesn’t have a nuclear deterrent and paying an incredibly high price following the Hamas attack on Israel

We went into Iraq (the official reason at the time) because they had WMDs - of course we have yet to find those.

Mexicans should be smarter and just not cross the border for a year. Trump and his backward followers would be begging them to cross the border in no time when they don't have any food for the table.

I have no dog in this fight but a bit of me can see/understand why Trump won because he basically said what the people wanted to hear and tbf, he got MORE black and hispanic votes than he did in 2016 so i don't think everyone calling him racists particularly worked or made any difference.
The Dem's were always doomed with Sleepy Joe then Kamala....being a woman...let alone a black woman...she was NEVER gonna win imo.

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

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The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
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But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
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And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
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She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
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She’s black and she’s a woman.

That’s the ONLY thing she did “wrong”

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 15 minutes ago
Ok well I think you’re grossly exaggerating Britain’s importance, but whatever.

Funny how the other 200 odd countries in the world manage perfectly well without $punking billions of pounds on pointless nukes, but WE obviously need them.
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Ukraine?

No way Russia would be there now if Ukraine had nuclear capability. It will be Moldova and Georgia next. It won’t be Britain whilst Trident is here as Putin knows it’s essentially the end of a habitable world if he does

This country knows the sacrifice of war, parents aren’t sending their kids off to fight one when we all we need to prevent it is Trident
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Show me one country that doesn't know the sacrifice of war, or the sacrifice fighting for freedom. Majority have fought Britain itself to get their freedom and independence and they don't have nuclear weapons just because they know a sacrifice.

I think it's simplistic to think trident is the reason we don't send our sins to war. Mainly because it's not true. We send them to war more than almost anyone else outside of the USA. Having trident is a deterrent, but it hasn't saved is from sending our son's to war.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

------------------------------------------------------

The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
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But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
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And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
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She’s black and she’s a woman.

That’s the ONLY thing she did “wrong”
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The left is doomed to repeat if they think this.

Arab American women would not vote for her because she was vague as faaaack on Gaza and they saw her and Biden allow it to happen under their watch.

comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
This country knows the sacrifice of war, parents aren’t sending their kids off to fight one when we all we need to prevent it is Trident
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Show me one country that doesn't know the sacrifice of war, or the sacrifice fighting for freedom. Majority have fought Britain itself to get their freedom and independence and they don't have nuclear weapons just because they know a sacrifice.

I think it's simplistic to think trident is the reason we don't send our sins to war. Mainly because it's not true. We send them to war more than almost anyone else outside of the USA. Having trident is a deterrent, but it hasn't saved is from sending our son's to war.
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It’s stopped conscript, we’re sending professional soldiers off to wars where our weaponry is light years ahead of the opposition and there chances of survival are very good.

Ukraine have been kidnapping men off the street to fight and ultimately die

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

------------------------------------------------------

The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
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But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
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Yeah, I mean what’s a bit of rape/incest/abuse/ unwanted childhood pregnancies to Middle America after all.

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

------------------------------------------------------

The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
----------------------------------------------------------------------
She’s black and she’s a woman.

That’s the ONLY thing she did “wrong”
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The left is doomed to repeat if they think this.

Arab American women would not vote for her because she was vague as faaaack on Gaza and they saw her and Biden allow it to happen under their watch.

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You need to stop responding to this absolute moron.

It’s called free speech Fred. If you find my words a bit too hurty and triggering, leave.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

------------------------------------------------------

The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
----------------------------------------------------------------------
She’s black and she’s a woman.

That’s the ONLY thing she did “wrong”
----------------------------------------------------------------------

That may have played a part with the rednecks but that's way too simplistic to apply to all 70m+ voters who voted for him.

The democrat campaign was awful. They didn't appeal to enough people and the excuses are just laughable. They actually turned away a lot of voters with their inability to state what a woman actually is and all this gender fluid nonsense that they can't see to escape. Most Americans don't want any part of that nonsense (I actually agree with them on this point)

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

------------------------------------------------------

The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
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Yeah, I mean what’s a bit of rape/incest/abuse/ unwanted childhood pregnancies to Middle America after all.
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It happens, but not to the vast majority of Americans.

I’m not saying that this shouldn’t have been a main consideration point of this election - I’m saying quite simply, it wasn’t and the reason is because of their fundamental Christian foundations. Again the left failed to understand this

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

------------------------------------------------------

The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
----------------------------------------------------------------------
She’s black and she’s a woman.

That’s the ONLY thing she did “wrong”
----------------------------------------------------------------------

That may have played a part with the rednecks but that's way too simplistic to apply to all 70m+ voters who voted for him.

The democrat campaign was awful. They didn't appeal to enough people and the excuses are just laughable. They actually turned away a lot of voters with their inability to state what a woman actually is and all this gender fluid nonsense that they can't see to escape. Most Americans don't want any part of that nonsense (I actually agree with them on this point)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whilst the fascist tangerine freak was claiming school kids were having gender reassignment surgery in their lunch breaks.

So let’s not start playing he culture wars eh, it’s my specialty.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

------------------------------------------------------

The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
----------------------------------------------------------------------
She’s black and she’s a woman.

That’s the ONLY thing she did “wrong”
----------------------------------------------------------------------

That may have played a part with the rednecks but that's way too simplistic to apply to all 70m+ voters who voted for him.

The democrat campaign was awful. They didn't appeal to enough people and the excuses are just laughable. They actually turned away a lot of voters with their inability to state what a woman actually is and all this gender fluid nonsense that they can't see to escape. Most Americans don't want any part of that nonsense (I actually agree with them on this point)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whilst the fascist tangerine freak was claiming school kids were having gender reassignment surgery in their lunch breaks.

So let’s not start playing the culture wars eh, it’s my specialty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

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The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
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But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
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And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
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She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
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Yeah, I mean what’s a bit of rape/incest/abuse/ unwanted childhood pregnancies to Middle America after all.
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It happens, but not to the vast majority of Americans.

I’m not saying that this shouldn’t have been a main consideration point of this election - I’m saying quite simply, it wasn’t and the reason is because of their fundamental Christian foundations. Again the left failed to understand this
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There’s actually no group of people I despise more than evangelical Christians.

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But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

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The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
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But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
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And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
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She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
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Yeah, I mean what’s a bit of rape/incest/abuse/ unwanted childhood pregnancies to Middle America after all.
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It happens, but not to the vast majority of Americans.

I’m not saying that this shouldn’t have been a main consideration point of this election - I’m saying quite simply, it wasn’t and the reason is because of their fundamental Christian foundations. Again the left failed to understand this
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There’s actually no group of people I despise more than evangelical Christians.
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That is what America was built on, if the left don’t know that then they have zero hope at elections.

Women’s rights will suffer terribly under trump - but they were never a focal point of this election as the women that vote for trump never expect to need an abortion in their lifetimes - they simply can’t envisage it and therefore it was a political point that ultimately had little relevance in this election.

People vote on what matters to them, what will affect them.

This is why Trump ran rings around the Dems - he knew what the salient points of this election were. He knew how to appeal to middle America and he knew to avoid Kamala in further debates as she could whoop him at that, but ultimately America had little interest in her policies

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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
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But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

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The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
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But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
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Yeah, I mean what’s a bit of rape/incest/abuse/ unwanted childhood pregnancies to Middle America after all.
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To be fair that is what middle america is built upon. All religious fanatics.

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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
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But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

------------------------------------------------------

The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
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But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Yeah, I mean what’s a bit of rape/incest/abuse/ unwanted childhood pregnancies to Middle America after all.
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It happens, but not to the vast majority of Americans.

I’m not saying that this shouldn’t have been a main consideration point of this election - I’m saying quite simply, it wasn’t and the reason is because of their fundamental Christian foundations. Again the left failed to understand this
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There’s actually no group of people I despise more than evangelical Christians.
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That is what America was built on, if the left don’t know that then they have zero hope at elections.

Women’s rights will suffer terribly under trump - but they were never a focal point of this election as the women that vote for trump never expect to need an abortion in their lifetimes - they simply can’t envisage it and therefore it was a political point that ultimately had little relevance in this election.

People vote on what matters to them, what will affect them.

This is why Trump ran rings around the Dems - he knew what the salient points of this election were. He knew how to appeal to middle America and he knew to avoid Kamala in further debates as she could whoop him at that, but ultimately America had little interest in her policies
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Actually America was built on genocide and slavery, so get your f*cking facts right.

Evangelicals Christians are no different from the Taliban, absolutely vile and medieval.


F*ck America, hope it burns.

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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
But their absolute biggest mistake, was alienating their traditional voter base - they lost blue collar America and by labelling all those people as racist and fascist they will continue to do so. They need to wise up, be a little more cunning, a little more ruthless and learn the fundamental errors of this epic faaaack up

------------------------------------------------------

The same phenomenon is happening in pretty much every mature democracy, and different sets of tactics seem to have no real impact on the growing support for right-wing populism. Even when mainstream parties massively pander to those populist policies in an attempt to outflank them. It's a much more complex and structural phenomenon than abandoning the working class or talking down to it. Democrat policies are much more orientated toward improving the material conditions, financial security, etc. of the working class than Trump's. And if you look at the breakdown of support by income, Democrats are still doing much better with voters earning less than $50k than they are with voters earning $50-100k.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they don’t feel like they are - as per the polls. Perspective will win every single time.

You can’t run a campaign on faaacking “Joy” when the majority of the populace is not sensing joy
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And if she ran on dark, apocalyptic notes like Trump, she would fail to out-MAGA Trump with the Republican base, while massively alienating key parts of the Democratic coalition, which include tens of millions of college-educated, liberal voters and working class black voters who want to feel someone represents their interests against racism. If there was a simple answer to this conundrum, someone would have run with it and galvanized the support of all those disparate groups with different economic interests and cultural priorities.

The fact is, the international phenomenon of high inflation has resulted in nearly every incumbent government facing a general election over the last year or two losing power (where elections are genuinely free and competitive). In many cases with historically heavy defeats. Kamala Harris's defeat represents a much smaller margin of loss and much smaller drop in support relative to that international trend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

She could have won if she had run on the policies she did whilst also addressing the Democrats short comings during the previous term. Specifically what was she going to do about Israel - she polled terribly with Arab Americans. What was she going to do about aid to Ukraine?

As terrible as it sounds - those two points along with the economy and immigration far out weighed the abortion laws in the minds of Americans. But she and the Dems should have known that, the country was built originally on fundamental Christianity - basically a load of people thinking they shouldn’t be pregnant outside of marriage.

But the Dems didn’t want to engage in the topics that the majority of Americans wanted to engage on and so Trump with at times mindless rhetoric won that portion of the vote because he had engaged.

So many errors from the Dems this time round - they have to stop pointing at what they see as the opposition and blaming them and instead think how do we win in 2028, how can we be better
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Yeah, I mean what’s a bit of rape/incest/abuse/ unwanted childhood pregnancies to Middle America after all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It happens, but not to the vast majority of Americans.

I’m not saying that this shouldn’t have been a main consideration point of this election - I’m saying quite simply, it wasn’t and the reason is because of their fundamental Christian foundations. Again the left failed to understand this
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There’s actually no group of people I despise more than evangelical Christians.
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This 10000000%

Just waiting for the race riots to get started now.

Haven’t read all of the comments here but one thing that really annoys is people that are anti-illegal immigration being branded far right or racist.

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posted 1 minute ago
Haven’t read all of the comments here but one thing that really annoys is people that are anti-illegal immigration being branded far right or racist.
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They are.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
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comment by The Process (U20671)
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Haven’t read all of the comments here but one thing that really annoys is people that are anti-illegal immigration being branded far right or racist.
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They are.
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Please elaborate as to why.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
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comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
Haven’t read all of the comments here but one thing that really annoys is people that are anti-illegal immigration being branded far right or racist.
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They are.
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Please elaborate as to why.
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You know why.