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Last look at the election

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posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

The simple way of looking at this is pre 1952 this island was invaded many times and many further attempts were made. Post 1952, when Britain had nuclear capability, no one has so much as tried it
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We haven't invaded anyone either since the end of our colonial empire and they don't have nuclear weapons.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again (U1282)

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This much is true. You don't see them crying about immigrants from Sweden or Denmark. During the Farage riots, or any other riots across Europe did you ever see a white immigrant running for their life? Did you see a white immigrant getting attacked in the street? Did you see a white immigrant attacked at their dwelling? Did you see any white immigrant attacked for having a foreign accent?

No, white immigrants went on about their business as usual without any fear, even those that can't speak a word of English.
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Yes, my polish wife has experienced racism. Eastern europeans are regularly the recipients of hate crime and it increased a lot after brexit.

Swedish and Danish account for such a small number of people but xenophobic hate crimes are not restricted to brown people.

Looking at your post it's no surprise Trump won really is it.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

Also they set a car on fire with EE in it at the riots just a few months ago.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

These are sons that made a choice - we’re not kidnapping people off the street, we’re not conscripting and we’re not in a position where we feel we have to do it. You can keep picking at this but it seems churlish as I’ve made my point clearly.
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So your point is that we only send those sons who are willing to fight to go and die in the warsm

Your point is that Trident is great because we don't have to force people to enlist?

That's just silly. You're doing a terrible job if justify trident here. We shouldn't have to send anyone to go and die in these stoopid wars.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again(U1282)
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comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again(U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
This country knows the sacrifice of war, parents aren’t sending their kids off to fight one when we all we need to prevent it is Trident
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Show me one country that doesn't know the sacrifice of war, or the sacrifice fighting for freedom. Majority have fought Britain itself to get their freedom and independence and they don't have nuclear weapons just because they know a sacrifice.

I think it's simplistic to think trident is the reason we don't send our sins to war. Mainly because it's not true. We send them to war more than almost anyone else outside of the USA. Having trident is a deterrent, but it hasn't saved is from sending our son's to war.
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It’s stopped conscript, we’re sending professional soldiers off to wars where our weaponry is light years ahead of the opposition and there chances of survival are very good.

Ukraine have been kidnapping men off the street to fight and ultimately die
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That wasn't the point you were making though.
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Off course it was - we don’t want to send our sons off to fight wars. Professional soldiers on the other hand, those that have put themselves in a position where that is a possibility have to accept the fact. The difference of course is they made that choice, unlike the guys getting kidnapped in Ukraine.

The other big difference being we’re going into wars on our terms, where we are vastly stronger than our opponents.

We won’t ever be drawn into a conflict we do not want to be in whilst we have a nuclear deterrent - countries without that deterrent or the aid of a country with a nuclear deterrent cannot and will never be able to say the same thing.

The simple way of looking at this is pre 1952 this island was invaded many times and many further attempts were made. Post 1952, when Britain had nuclear capability, no one has so much as tried it
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We’re working on a plan

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again(U1282)

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This much is true. You don't see them crying about immigrants from Sweden or Denmark. During the Farage riots, or any other riots across Europe did you ever see a white immigrant running for their life? Did you see a white immigrant getting attacked in the street? Did you see a white immigrant attacked at their dwelling? Did you see any white immigrant attacked for having a foreign accent?

No, white immigrants went on about their business as usual without any fear, even those that can't speak a word of English.
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Yes, my polish wife has experienced racism. Eastern europeans are regularly the recipients of hate crime and it increased a lot after brexit.

Swedish and Danish account for such a small number of people but xenophobic hate crimes are not restricted to brown people.

Looking at your post it's no surprise Trump won really is it.
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I didn't say xenophobia attacks are limited to brown people. You're replying to what you wanted me to say instead of what I actual said.

I didn't say white immigrants don't face any racism at all, everyone faces discrimination at one time or another, but racism isn't just racism and having somebody say some bad words is very different from having all out riots in the streets.

I work an international job and know many immigrants living in UK. Some were sheeting their pants and staying indoors and others went about their jobs freely.

By making that observation, it doesn't mean I'm saying xenophobic attacks are limited to brown people.

Looking at how simplistic your thought process is, no wonder Trump won.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 8 minutes ago
Also they set a car on fire with EE in it at the riots just a few months ago.
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Why are you using Eastern Europeans? The jury is still out on whether they're even white people.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

Also, by bringing up maltreatment of Eastern Europeans, you're just proving my point that racism is the pillar of anti-immigration.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

During the Farage riots, or any other riots across Europe did you ever see a white immigrant running for their life? Did you see a white immigrant getting attacked in the street

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They set a car on fire with EE in it at the riots just a few months ago. You're welcome to go and look at the footage and examine their skin tone.

Dismissed the lived experiences of my wife and other EE then go on the attack when you get called out for it. As I say it's no surprise Trump won.


posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, by bringing up maltreatment of Eastern Europeans, you're just proving my point that racism is the pillar of anti-immigration.
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Well everything is evidence of your point. Trump is back in power, maybe you can go and frame your proof on your wall and celebrate.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again(U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, by bringing up maltreatment of Eastern Europeans, you're just proving my point that racism is the pillar of anti-immigration.
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Well everything is evidence of your point. Trump is back in power, maybe you can go and frame your proof on your wall and celebrate.
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Genius alert.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 2 minutes ago
During the Farage riots, or any other riots across Europe did you ever see a white immigrant running for their life? Did you see a white immigrant getting attacked in the street

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They set a car on fire with EE in it at the riots just a few months ago. You're welcome to go and look at the footage and examine their skin tone.

Dismissed the lived experiences of my wife and other EE then go on the attack when you get called out for it. As I say it's no surprise Trump won.



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How did I dismiss your fake wife's lived experiences? I admitted all of them you fecking incel?

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

Whatever, I'm not going to debate it with a racist that doesn't understand what they wrote.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 3 minutes ago
During the Farage riots, or any other riots across Europe did you ever see a white immigrant running for their life? Did you see a white immigrant getting attacked in the street

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They set a car on fire with EE in it at the riots just a few months ago. You're welcome to go and look at the footage and examine their skin tone.

Dismissed the lived experiences of my wife and other EE then go on the attack when you get called out for it. As I say it's no surprise Trump won.



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Eastern Europeans are "others" too, depending on which racist philosophy you are a student of.

You talk about skin tone but a lot of Asians could pass as white and we're still not spared. People from the far east can sometimes have lighter complexion than "white" people but they got it too.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 1 minute ago
Whatever, I'm not going to debate it with a racist that doesn't understand what they wrote.
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Glad that cleared up.

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

"last look at the election"

Article ends up being a debate about nuclear bombs, racism, etc. etc.

Someone create a new trump article

posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

You've got to laugh on here when people are talking about immigration.

I have read all through this thread, and nobody is against it, what we are against is illegal immigration.

As for people saying things about Ukrainians, Polish or whatever, the thing is you do not see these people coming over here and telling us they hate the UK and they are not marching to try and change the UK, they are integrating and adding value to the country.

Then you have immigrants who have come over with other agendas, and they come here illegally. This is what we want to control, this is what people are fed up with.

If a certain poster wants to brand me far right, or racist then thats their own problem. Sorry.

posted 1 day ago

comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again (U1282)

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Eastern Europeans are "others" too, depending on which racist philosophy you are a student of.

You talk about skin tone but a lot of Asians could pass as white and we're still not spared. People from the far east can sometimes have lighter complexion than "white" people but they got it too.


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I'm sure I'm several shades darker than my wife, but I'm also sure that one of my neighbours makes disparaging remarks about her being a foreigner and none about me.

Us asians can be ignorant too, that has nothing to do with skin tone.

posted 1 day ago

As for people saying things about Ukrainians, Polish or whatever, the thing is you do not see these people coming over here and telling us they hate the UK and they are not marching to try and change the UK, they are integrating and adding value to the country.
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Pahahahaha.

You probably actually believe this and think you're making a strong point.

This is why Trump wins and you get 14 years of Tories ripping the country a new ass hole.

posted 1 day ago

comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again(U1282)

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Eastern Europeans are "others" too, depending on which racist philosophy you are a student of.

You talk about skin tone but a lot of Asians could pass as white and we're still not spared. People from the far east can sometimes have lighter complexion than "white" people but they got it too.


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I'm sure I'm several shades darker than my wife, but I'm also sure that one of my neighbours makes disparaging remarks about her being a foreigner and none about me.

Us asians can be ignorant too, that has nothing to do with skin tone.
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Exactly. A specific attack where the perp knows your wife's heritage. It's casual racism. Not the same as having to run for your life or not leave your house. Or does your wife stay indoors for fear of disparaging remarks from your neighbour?

Just look at the scenarios you are attempting to compare. You can't think critically.

posted 1 day ago

comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again (U1282)
posted 37 seconds ago
As for people saying things about Ukrainians, Polish or whatever, the thing is you do not see these people coming over here and telling us they hate the UK and they are not marching to try and change the UK, they are integrating and adding value to the country.
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Pahahahaha.

You probably actually believe this and think you're making a strong point.

This is why Trump wins and you get 14 years of Tories ripping the country a new ass hole.
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I believe it as I know plenty of Polish and Ukrainian people who have payed for visas, are working and paying taxes.

I do not see pro Polish marches through our cities demanding we change our laws and the what not.

posted 1 day ago

comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again (U1282)

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Exactly. A specific attack where the perp knows your wife's heritage. It's casual racism. Not the same as having to run for your life or not leave your house. Or does your wife stay indoors for fear of disparaging remarks from your neighbour?

Just look at the scenarios you are attempting to compare. You can't think critically.
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I don't need to think critically, because I know that I am more fearful for my wife than I am for me.

Just carry on dismissing others lived experiences, as people like you do.

posted 1 day ago

comment by ProPokerPlayer (U23205)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again(U1282)

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Exactly. A specific attack where the perp knows your wife's heritage. It's casual racism. Not the same as having to run for your life or not leave your house. Or does your wife stay indoors for fear of disparaging remarks from your neighbour?

Just look at the scenarios you are attempting to compare. You can't think critically.
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I don't need to think critically, because I know that I am more fearful for my wife than I am for me.

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When you say "my wife" do you mean your left or your right hand?

posted 1 day ago

comment by Trump 2024, Make America Great Again (U1282)

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When you say "my wife" do you mean your left or your right hand?

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And there we are

This is the problem with you identity politics types, at some point you always fall foul of your own racism.

posted 1 day ago

You literally came on here to tell us what different people with different skin tones do or not experience.

Get called out for such a stupid, racist, generalisation, get shown a clear documented counterexample of foreign white people being attacked, then go on the attack.

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