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posted on 31/12/13

Deulofeu will be a better player than Barkley IMO

And you know this how? We've only seen him play a couple of times.Do you watch the Barcelona B games as well? The Utd fans were posting exactly the same thing when the valuation of Fellaini hit the press.Most of you claimed Utd wouldn't pay over £20m,but you were wrong.

posted on 31/12/13

Im still getting over the 'moving to united is a sideways step' i mean toffees actually believe moving to one if not the biggest club in world football as a sideways step, then you cant have a serious debate with them!

posted on 31/12/13

If Anderson was worth £20mil 6 years ago then Barkley is worth £75mil

posted on 1/1/14

By that logic, if Andy Carroll was worth £35m then Young is worth £200m.

posted on 1/1/14

actually if Andy Carroll was worth 35 then Young is worth about 12

posted on 1/1/14

To be fair, the argument that the scout who found Barkley claims he's more talented than Rooney isn't a great one. 2 reasons:

1. As part of his job description it's in his best interests to have found a new or better version of Rooney. Take it with a pinch of salt.

2. Again linked to being enployed by the club. Rooney is not, Barkley is. Therefore Barkley is an asset to Everton who can catch a big fee should he be sold, Rooney is not. Making outlandish comments about his abilities is sensible from a financial perspective.

If any Everton fan really believes their 3 goal 0 assist number 10 is better than Rooney was at that age, fair enough. I don't

posted on 1/1/14

As part of his job description it's in his best interests to have found a new or better version of Rooney. Take it with a pinch of salt.

He doesn't work for Everton anymore so how is it in his best interest?

posted on 1/1/14

Column inches? You tell me. He's definitely overhyping a decent player, that's for sure.

posted on 1/1/14

Column inches? You tell me. He's definitely overhyping a decent player, that's for sure.

So basically the 2 reason's you gave were nonsense.

posted on 2/1/14

They were incorrect. But rather than take the moral high ground you should probably ask why a guy supposedly better than rooney is rotated with leon osman. I was wrong, yes, but so is anyone who thinks Ross Barkley is anything other than a promising player being hyped because he's English ans playing for a football club who know how to extract every last penny when selling a player.

posted on 2/1/14

Basically, anyone that believes Barkley is more talented than Rooney is delusional. It's just a load of crap and is patently untrue. Barkley isn't even more talented than upcoming attacking mids like Coutinho and Eriksen. He's the new Wilshere. So much hype when he's yet to really prove himself consistently at the highest level.

At this rate, he may even win Young Player of the Year, when the likes of Ramsey and Lallana deserve it far more.

posted on 2/1/14

Ramsey is three years older that Barkley and has been poor of late.Lallana is 25 so he's too old to win the PFA.Coutinho and Eriksen have not played better than Barkley this season. Am I feeling a little envy from you Sheriff? It's not surprising considering young Barkley ran you midfield raggered.

posted on 2/1/14

But rather than take the moral high ground you should probably ask why a guy supposedly better than rooney is rotated with leon osman.

Because we've got a small squad,and Martinez doesn't want to burn Barkley out (Barkley and Barry were both on 4 yellow against Sunderland,and there was danger of losing both for the Southampton game so he started with Osman and Barry which was a mistake).

posted on 2/1/14

Wayne Rooney didn't need rested often at 20 yrars of age and we had cinsiderably better back up than Leon Osman. I don't remember the likes of Fabregas being rotated all that often either. You know why? Because the best players are picked whenever possible. Barkley is not of that ilk.

posted on 2/1/14

Wayne Rooney didn't need rested often at 20 yrars of age and we had cinsiderably better back up than Leon Osman. I don't remember the likes of Fabregas being rotated all that often either.

Barkley spent 18 months out with a double leg fracture.Rooney had 2 years on Barkley by the time he was 20. When Rooney was at Everton,Radzinski would nearly always start and Rooney would be introduced late on. Joe Cole and Owen are two guys that played too much football at an early age and suffered the consequences later on in their career (Fabregas also has a chequered injury record).

posted on 2/1/14

This still going on? Barkley would walk into that United midfield it's utter tripe.

posted on 2/1/14

Januzai should consider his aspirations I've never seen talent like it he should compete with Tom Daly ib the synchronized diving they could be life partners too and go for rainbow gold in 2016 winning with a triple pike into reverse cowboy and cream pie finish.

posted on 2/1/14

Ramsey is three years older that Barkley and has been poor of late.Lallana is 25 so he's too old to win the PFA.Coutinho and Eriksen have not played better than Barkley this season. Am I feeling a little envy from you Sheriff? It's not surprising considering young Barkley ran you midfield raggered.
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Envy? Why the fack would I be envious? Barkley had a great game against us. So has Agbonlahor this season. Hell, Nzonzi at Stoke looked like Zidane against us earlier this season. Leon Britton at Swansea has looked like Xavi against us in the past. Phil Jones dominated our midfield. Mikel in Chelsea had our midfield in his pocket in the League Cup. I'm rather totally indifferent to Everton and there's nothing to be envious about. I cheer you against all the top sides in the league and would probably do so if you played in Europe. So lose the self-important, paranoid garbage.

Barkley isn't better than Coutinho or Eriksen. For one, those 2 have had injury hit seasons. And still, they've been more productive in less minutes than Barkley. They don't get the hype because they're not the new overhyped English messiahs. Their football brains are a class above Barkley's.

posted on 2/1/14

Their football brains are a class above Barkley's.

How can you come to this conclusion in half a season is beyond me.

And still, they've been more productive in less minutes than Barkley.

Explain?

posted on 2/1/14

"Their football brains are a class above Barkley's.
How can you come to this
conclusion in half a season is beyond me."

Half a season is a pretty lengthy period of football. I knew Fabregas would be a special player watching him just a few times at 17. The vision, ingenuity and range of passing was already evident. I've followed Coutinho since his teens at Inter and Eriksen since watching him at 18 for Denmark. Their superior reading of the game and technical attributes over Barkley is glaring despite their physical and athletic inferiority. England very rarely produce players like them and any English midfielder with good technique gets hyped to the heavens before they've done anything of note. Watch a player like Isco at Barkley's age week in, week out in Malaga and you'd be embarrassed by the hype English players like him get. £50m? I wouldn't buy him for half that.

"And still, they've been more productive in less minutes than Barkley.
Explain?"

Check the stats.

posted on 2/1/14

I've followed Coutinho since his teens at Inter and Eriksen since watching him at 18 for Denmark.

Sure you did.Coutinho was that good he was sent out on loan at Inter,and then joined Liverpool for a mere £8.5 million.What part of "Barkley was out of the games for 18 months" can't you understand? You claim you've followed Eriksen at 18, so that's 3 year (I would really love to know how many games you've actually seen of him playing) Yet you're judging Barkley on 20 odd games. Barkley has bossed your midfield on both occasions he's played at the Emirates,yet you think he overrated. You Sir are a simpleton.

posted on 2/1/14

Can't say 20 odd games... 20 games is a lot of games.

posted on 2/1/14

20 games for a seasoned pro maybe but not a 19 year old breaking through, what level he reaches is down to him and his desire but he has everything to be a top top player.

posted on 2/1/14


Sure you did.Coutinho was that good he was sent out on loan at Inter,and then joined Liverpool for a mere £8.5 million.What part of "Barkley was out of the games for 18 months" can't you understand? You claim you've followed Eriksen at 18, so that's 3 year (I would really love to know how many games you've actually seen of him playing) Yet you're judging Barkley on 20 odd games. Barkley has bossed your midfield on both occasions he's played at the Emirates,yet you think he overrated. You Sir are a simpleton.
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You seem wound up. Perhaps I have to apologise for not sharing your fantasies about the £50m no.10 without an assist all season.Yeah, an 18-year-old player on loan at Inter is so ridiculous. Perhaps a loan to Sheffield Wednesday would have shown his immense potential better. His £8.5m transfer is also a measure of his talent. I guess RVP costing Arsenal £2.5m shows how pants he was. Or that Coleman fella at Everton that cost a packet of crisps. Facking idiot. And I'm meant to be the "simpleton".

Barkley bossing our midfield seems to be a lifetime highlight for you considering how often you keep regurgitating it like a broken record. Perhaps it would one day decades from now be carved on your tombstone: "He saw Barkley boss Arsenal's midfield".

You're a delusional, ignorant clown if you think Barkley is more talented than Rooney. Enjoy the bubble of delusion.

posted on 2/1/14

And 20 games in a half-season period is more than enough time to judge a 20-year-old footballer. Yes, he missed a little less than a 10 months (contrary to the 2 years I've heard peddled about) but as long as it isn't a chronic, persistent problem, a youngster like him would recover pretty quickly. You'd think he was being judged from 2 sub appearances the way some are making out.

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